One spot behind the team we beat 37-7. And four idiots voted UCF #1. Let it go people, let it go.
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State finishes #19 in the AP
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Even when we're better
than LSU, they're better than us.
Jesus.
They have some sort of voodoo hex on us.
than LSU, they're better than us.
Jesus.
They have some sort of voodoo hex on us.
Well that makes us the fifth best team in the SEC overall. Someone remind me again what we were picked to finish just in the SEC west. Seventh?
Can any of these voters give me a coherent, sensible explanation for why LSU is ranked ahead of us? Just one halfway decent reason and I will fine.
LSU went 6-2 in conference play, with their only in-conference losses to State and Alabama. They beat two like opponents that beat State (Ole Miss & Auburn).
All four of their losses were to ranked teams #1, #4 # 11 and #19. Mississippi State's losses? That loss to unranked Ole Miss sticks out. Those Alabama, GA and Auburn were that bad except two of them were beat downs 31-3 & 49-10.
Sure we beat them but that's one game, earlier in the year. I could very much see why they are ranked ahead of us since their worst loss was way better than our worst loss.
All four of their losses were to ranked teams #1, #4 # 11 and #19. Mississippi State's losses? That loss to unranked Ole Miss sticks out. Those Alabama, GA and Auburn were that bad except two of them were beat downs 31-3 & 49-10.
Sure we beat them but that's one game, earlier in the year. I could very much see why they are ranked ahead of us since their worst loss was way better than our worst loss.
I fixed it for you.
I wish more people had voted UCF No. 1. If only to piss off Bama fans.
Proud of MSU.
Strange looking back on it...we get run over by the SEC West Champion, get beat down by the SEC Champion, and we physically dominate and nearly beat the NCAA National Champion...upset LSU but struggle with UMass...and our backup QB out shines an opposing Heisman QB in the Gator Bowl...insanity, 2017 MSU Football was a roller-coaster of WTF insanity.
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Strange looking back on it...we get run over by the SEC West Champion, get beat down by the SEC Champion, and we physically dominate and nearly beat the NCAA National Champion...upset LSU but struggle with UMass...and our backup QB out shines an opposing Heisman QB in the Gator Bowl...insanity, 2017 MSU Football was a roller-coaster of WTF insanity.
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LSU ahead because 10 voters had them at least 5 spots higher than us. Conversely, there were only 3 voters that had us 5 or more ahead of them.
What really sucks is we had more voters put us ahead, so it was the idiots that had us way below LSU, despite same record and H2H, that allowed LSU to barely finish higher.
In votes that were less than 5 spots apart, we out-polled LSU by 14 voters.
Particularly egregious is Dave Reardon, who has LSU at 15, and us unranked.
What really sucks is we had more voters put us ahead, so it was the idiots that had us way below LSU, despite same record and H2H, that allowed LSU to barely finish higher.
In votes that were less than 5 spots apart, we out-polled LSU by 14 voters.
Particularly egregious is Dave Reardon, who has LSU at 15, and us unranked.
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Well he is in Hawaii, but he didn't have any problem getting three Alabama schools in his poll.
http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/football/my-vote-bama-no-1-ucf-no-2/
I don't really care about 18 or 19 because it really means nothing, but when I saw he left us out and had LSU at 15 I looked him up cause I figured he had to be a West Coaster. Turned out much farther West than that. He did put his Hawaiian QBs 1-2.
5 teams within 9 spots ahead of us lost. We passed 4 of them. LSU is the only one that lost, yet still stayed ahead of us, even though they went into their bowl ranked below Stanford, a team that fell 5 spots, compared to LSU's 2.
Stanford lost by 2 to #9 Louisville, while LSU lost by 4 to #11 ND.
Stanford lost by 2 to #9 Louisville, while LSU lost by 4 to #11 ND.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about being #19...just offering some insight as to why LSU is higher. I'd find it more legit if we were #19 behind Stanford and ahead of LSU, if we go strictly by Stanford's ranking prior to their close loss to a team ranked higher that the one that beat LSU.
Why should Stanford drop 5 spots after losing by 2 to then #13 TCU, while LSU drops only 2 spots after losing by 4 to then #14 ND?
Why should Stanford drop 5 spots after losing by 2 to then #13 TCU, while LSU drops only 2 spots after losing by 4 to then #14 ND?
However little effort you put into it, was way too much. I guarantee you the voters put less effort in compiling their lists than you put into analyzing them. All of them, combined, put in less effort.
So, yeah, it's pretty random.
I can’t give a good reason. But, 5 years from now, there will be a hell of a lot more people that remember LSU getting their *** whipped 37-7 at Davis Wade than there will that remember the #18 and #19 teams in the final 2017 AP Poll. So there’s that.
What is your problem? It's my time I devoted...not yours. If you don't think it's worthwhile, by all means, stop wasting your precious time reading and responding.
You've put more effort into bitching about the effort I put in than I actually did put in.
I happen to enjoy working with numbers and stats, particularly as they are related to MSU. I enjoy occasionally coming on this board to read and exchange dialogue with fellow Bulldogs. If you don't approve, just move along.
You've put more effort into bitching about the effort I put in than I actually did put in.
I happen to enjoy working with numbers and stats, particularly as they are related to MSU. I enjoy occasionally coming on this board to read and exchange dialogue with fellow Bulldogs. If you don't approve, just move along.
Sorry, but LSU lost to 'unranked' Troy NOT #4 Clemson. They also lost to 'unranked' (at the time) MSU 37-7.
I'm not really bitching about your time, and I didn't know you would be so sensitive about it. It's just pointless to analyze the the poll results, because the voters themselves put so little effort into it. We could have been ranked anywhere from 16-22, higher or lower than LSU, and its all just based on whatever went through each sports writers' mind during the 20 seconds they spent filling out the last 10 spots on their poll.
I wish the playoff committee would do a final ranking, because they actually put thought and analysis into each spot, but I understand why they don't want to spend time doing it.
I wish the playoff committee would do a final ranking, because they actually put thought and analysis into each spot, but I understand why they don't want to spend time doing it.
I just noticed that the 4 who voted UCF #1 all have MSU ranked ahead of LSU (2 with LSU unranked). While I disagree with them about UCF, it seems like they're being consistent by not letting the name on the jersey dictate their rankings.
I think if you had said it this way the first time he might not have been sensitive about it. Most of us could use a little civility training on here.
What's the fun in that? If you can't bust balls on a semi-anonymous message board, then they may as well shut down the Internet!
Anyone ranking UCF #1 is doing it SOLELY based on the name on the jersey. Bama or UGA would beat UCF by 20.
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