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ranzino4three

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You have banged on this theme for a good part of the year. What do you think constitutes development? I would love to hear some details. Perhaps you could include how few chances each of our key relievers have received both this year, and since you mentioned it's like this every year, include the opportunities the chances the returning pitchers got. While you're at maybe include the decision process the coaches go through and some of the data they collect and evaluate when making their decisions as well as how they collect that data. What factors do they consider when decided who gets to pitch and who doesn't. Don't forget to include the obligation of the player to apply what they've been taught when they are given the (few) chances they've been given. Oh, and be sure to include a metric for the coaches in-game decision process as to when enough is enough should a pitcher not actually be at the point of peak performance.
I think you’re proving my original point more than refuting it. Development isn’t just bullpen sessions, TrackMan numbers, or internal evaluations. At some point, development requires meaningful game reps — especially in situations where pitchers are trusted to work through adversity, make adjustments, and learn from failure.

I fully understand coaches use data, matchup analysis, practice performance, command metrics, recovery information, and countless other factors when making decisions. That’s part of high-level baseball. But fans are also allowed to question whether opportunities are distributed in a way that maximizes long-term growth, especially when the same few arms consistently carry the load year after year.

Nobody is asking for medical charts or proprietary analytics. The discussion is simply whether pitchers can truly develop into reliable high-leverage options without being allowed to pitch through real high-leverage moments. There’s a difference between “being in the program” and actually gaining experience.

And yes, execution matters. When players get opportunities, they have to perform. But if the leash for some pitchers is significantly shorter than for others, it naturally raises questions about how trust is established and how confidence is built.

At the end of the day, this isn’t an attack on the staff. It’s a discussion about philosophy, workload distribution, and whether balancing winning today with developing depth for tomorrow can be handled differently.
 

OldLeaguer

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I think you’re proving my original point more than refuting it. Development isn’t just bullpen sessions, TrackMan numbers, or internal evaluations. At some point, development requires meaningful game reps — especially in situations where pitchers are trusted to work through adversity, make adjustments, and learn from failure.

I fully understand coaches use data, matchup analysis, practice performance, command metrics, recovery information, and countless other factors when making decisions. That’s part of high-level baseball. But fans are also allowed to question whether opportunities are distributed in a way that maximizes long-term growth, especially when the same few arms consistently carry the load year after year.

Nobody is asking for medical charts or proprietary analytics. The discussion is simply whether pitchers can truly develop into reliable high-leverage options without being allowed to pitch through real high-leverage moments. There’s a difference between “being in the program” and actually gaining experience.

And yes, execution matters. When players get opportunities, they have to perform. But if the leash for some pitchers is significantly shorter than for others, it naturally raises questions about how trust is established and how confidence is built.

At the end of the day, this isn’t an attack on the staff. It’s a discussion about philosophy, workload distribution, and whether balancing winning today with developing depth for tomorrow can be handled differently.
So even though you say you understand it sounds like, in your view, development only consists of giving guys a longer leash. If you understand those metrics as you say, and you understand players have to perform when given their opportunities, then it feels like you still have a disconnect. I get the distinct vibe that you are downplaying the need for a player to perform in the moment. McDuffie last year, Glauber this year, and every reliever in previous years going back to Derrick DePriest and beyond are all given the same initial leash.

The key bullpen guys have been given and will continue to be given opportunities. The notion that anyone has not been given an opportunity is misguided. Every pitcher on staff has had the opportunity to perform at the very least, in live scrimmage action. Scrimmage games often include an umpire and I can assure you every pitcher is charted. When they actually get an opportunity in live game action, they do not have unlimited leeway to walk batter after batter or give up unlimited hard contact. If they consistently walk hitters or give up too much contact, they'll be pulled that day. They will get other chances, as evidenced by the fact that guys like Padgett (67 career opportunities), Chewie (25 career opps), Flannery (20), Matthijs (99), Rose (18), and Seagraves (34) all get more chances to work it out--just not unlimited pitches in any one game. They are not banished to Siberia. This is not minor league baseball where the outcome doesn't matter. Every coach at UNC or any other school in any sport is judged on wins and losses. In minor league ball--and I know you know this--pitchers (especially those in whom the club has spent $$$) will get every opportunity to prove they CAN'T perform whereas in college, it is up to the player to prove he CAN perform. A good example is Vance Honeycutt. If the Orioles hadn't sunk 4 million into him he'd be playing complex league game or done altogether.

The reason McDuffie and Glauber have the leash they do is because they performed when given their opportunities and they continue to perform. And I don't mean they performed perfectly, but they performed consistently well to be given more opportunities. The reason Folger continues to start is because the coaches have determined his demeanor is better suited to a starting role so he gets additional opportunites--just as the other guys have. And like them, he doesn't get stay in the game forever in the name of "developing." It is up to him or any given player, pitcher or position player, to give the coaches a reason to get them in the game.
 
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Gfm43

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Game 1 VCU: No game is guaranteed, even a 1/4 game. We beat them13-3 in 7 earlier in the year. Rose pitched 3 innings, 1 hit and 1 bb I believe.
Do you start Boaz and have Rose ready to go in the 4th of 5th inning??
Win and you have the big 4 ready for games 2 and 3. Win and you are a genius, lose and you are fool… Do you roll the dice?
 
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mpaer

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Game 1 VCU: No game is guaranteed, even a 1/4 game. We beat them13-3 in 7 earlier in the year. Rose pitched 3 innings, 1 hit and 1 bb I believe.
Do you start Boaz and have Rose ready to go in the 4th of 5th inning??
Win and you have the big 4 ready for games 2 and 3. Win and you are a genius, lose and you are fool… Do you roll the dice?
No dice rolling is my guess
 

TarHeelColby10

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Game 1 VCU: No game is guaranteed, even a 1/4 game. We beat them13-3 in 7 earlier in the year. Rose pitched 3 innings, 1 hit and 1 bb I believe.
Do you start Boaz and have Rose ready to go in the 4th of 5th inning??
Win and you have the big 4 ready for games 2 and 3. Win and you are a genius, lose and you are fool… Do you roll the dice?
If, and (I think he will) Jason starts, you hope to have the offense produce and Jason can put it on cruise control for 7 innings and let Rose, Chewy, seagraves etc finish the game. I don’t there is any situation where they pull Jason early because we have a big lead. He wouldn’t pitch again until Monday and the hope is you don’t have to play on Monday. So if Jason can get you through the 7th with a decent lead 7 ish runs.. you can use Matty and Rose to close the deal. Then you go into Saturday with Ryan and Duffie and hope they can get you through that one. That way if it plays out this way Globe can start Sunday in the 2-0/2-1 game. I highly doubt it works out that way, but in my head that’s how I would think they’d want to play it.
 

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I really think if there was a chance they were planning for globe to start they would have done it game 2 of the ACCT
 

BigGame12330

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Decaro starts G1 for sure. Cannot afford to get in the losers bracket in this regional. G2 is Lynch and all the others are predicated on how G1 goes. Really, really need 7 innings from Decaro. If somewhat close you use McDuffie and hopefully a limited P count to have him available G3 to back up Folger. I think you have Lynch and Glauber ready to go vs Tenn in G2 if that’s how it shakes out.
 

UNC76

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Also worth noting we didn’t have a lot of breathing room in many of our series’ this year to get guys work just for the sake of getting them work. We won a lot of key rubber games (Clemson, BC, Louisville) that tilted our season from good to great. We badly needed the Sunday UVA game just to salvage something.

There may have been some opportunities against Pitt, ND, NCSU for example when we had already taken the first two games of a series.
I've said it before, but this is where the run rule hurts us. We had 7 of them in the early part of the season. That's 14 innings that could have been pitched by guys not named McDuffie or Glauber. Yes, it would have been low pressure situations, but it still would helped with live pitching reps for more guys.
 

THEChapelthrill

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I personally would go with Lynch on Friday and Decaro on Saturday (full well knowing Forbes will NOT). Yes VCU is better than we should have as a 4, but I'd still take the slight dropoff from Decaro to Lynch in game 1 and have Decaro for game 2. I just don't know what the plan is for game 3... I would love to have Globe unused and ready, but I'm pretty sure that's a pipe dream. We'd have to be scoring 10+ both first two games AND having length from our starters, AND having someone else besides Mcduffie throwing 30+ both games to finish both without Globe and without burning Duff completely. Where does Rose go? Is he available out of the pen the first two days (whole weekend if so)? Or is he saved for Sunday? I just don't know how you go into a Sunday game expecting to win with Boaz at this point... His analytics are horrible, and he isn't looking much better by watching his outings. Forbes is going to have to be a puppet master this weekend... especially if Decaro and Lynch can't go at least 6 WITH offensive support and big leads.
 

ranzino4three

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In a perfect world, we come out swinging the sticks and put up a bunch of runs and Decaro is efficient and can go 7. We have a big enough lead that Rose can close, so we don’t have to use Glauber or Mcduffie.
 
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SpencerHaskell

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In a perfect world, we come out swinging the sticks and put up a bunch of runs and Decaro is efficient and can go 7. We have a big enough lead that Rose can close, so we don’t have to use Glauber or Mcduffie.
Thought Rose was a lot better than his box score indicated Sunday against GT. Lots of swings and misses against one of the best lineups in the country.