I’m certain the mayor had a say in the amount of fans. But I could also very much see Moos and Frosty boy allowing only 50% of fans to pseudo fill up the whole ego again (que Oklahoma) in case they wouldn’t have come close to selling out at full capacity.
Spring Game
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You stated it is a lie to claim that "vaccines are grown in tissue cultures from aborted fetuses." You were wrong. That is exactly where the J and J vaccine comes from, regardless of how long ago the abortion occurred. You can change the narrative now if you wish, but what you initially claimed was not true. I never claimed any moral superiority or that the vaccines use TISSUE from abortions. I just pointed out your misstatement.
PS. Fetal cell lines are not synthetic replications
Without scientific support and manipulation those tissues would die. Tissues only survive in culture media a matter of weeks even given total biological support. They must constantly be propagated. The cell lines used today are hundreds if not thousands of generations removed from those parent tissues. Therefore in my view they are synthetic replications. As an anti-abortion social conservative the line for me starts at the death of that baby. The researchers who took the tissue from those aborted babies weren't complicit in their death. Once the baby is dead, it's dead. From that point on morally I don't view it as wrong to try to use what I view as a tragic death to do something that is morally right.
If you had a child or grandchild who needed an organ transplant, would you refuse the organ from a child whose mother had murdered her own child? I would hope not. It's the same principle. That child is dead and nobody is going to bring them back to life. Those babies were terminated by their mother and their doctor. Researchers artificially (synthetically) kept cells from those babies alive so that they could save the lives of millions of people. Again, the line for me is when that baby has already been killed. Nobody is killing babies for the purpose of making vaccine. Well maybe they are in China but that's another story.
Okay, so the science dorks are free to start their own thread. This is about if Lincoln will allow people to party for the spring game.
I agree. I just take exception to the promotion of the idea that we're killing unborn babies to make vaccine. It's dishonest propaganda for what purpose I'm unsure. Discouraging people from getting vaccinated isn't going to help our society return to normal activities like packing Memorial Stadium.
Thank you. I agree as well. My final word: nobody is saying that anyone is killing unborn babies to make the vaccines. I simply pointed out your original erroneous statement. Have a nice day
There you go Dingle. It's not hard to find. Anywhere from 25 to 33 percent. Go ahead and spin it.
Don't think many were doubting the % not wanting the vaccine.
It was the ******** about gene therapy that people took you to task for.
It was irresponsible of you to suggest that.
Other than tailgating and Barry's, lets see a list of favorite pre-game imbibing spots. I know the railyard has become popular, but too many people there for my taste. I enjoyed the Brass Rail the last time I went to a game.
I always like a stroll down memory (O street) lane.
We will usually hit up Sandy's, The Rail, Bodegas, Brothers...Main st (Is that the name?), we just kind of bar hop and shoot the ****.
It is a blast.
I agree that 25 to 30% of people will refuse vaccination. That's their choice. We would never get everybody vaccinated anyway. They'll get COVID and if they don't die from it they'll get natural immunity. My spouse and I both got vaccinated and one week after I got my second dose we started eating out and sitting at the bar with friends. Feels great.
I'm done with masks. I won't shop at stores that require them now until they lift their rules which should be damned soon. I am HOPING to get exposed to wild virus now multiple times now over the next year to bolster my vaccinal immunity. Vaccine isn't supposed to always keep you from getting infected. It's supposed to keep you from becoming seriously ill or dying. The bottomline is that vaccination is going to more quickly get us to a place where people can feel safe attending church, social gatherings and sporting events. Anybody refusing to get vaccinated is going to delay that.
None of the bars I went to in college are still open. Maybe the Brass Rail is still open but I think I only went in their once.
I'll wear my mask after fully vaccinated if a private business asks me to. It is their choice. They dont bother me.
How is this related to the spring game again?
How is this related to the spring game again?
I don't believe it is erroneous to say that the cell lines currently being used are not from aborted fetuses. Maybe it's semantics but those original cells have been dead for over 40 years.
It has been many years since we did the bar scene at games. I don't have a sense of urgency to do that again. However, I haven't explored anything other than downtown from yesteryears and I am certain things have changed.
I don't look at it so much as a sense of urgency, just as a fun time. We stop in, grab a drink, goof on each other, talk about college, talk about life, I suppose the building/bar just serves as a bit of a time machine for the 30 minutes we are in there.
Just a reminder, you need to keep this logic everywhere in your life and throw out all advances that came through ill-gotten means such as things tracing their heritage to Nazi scientists. Boy are the words "Operation Paperclip" going to make your life difficult if you go pulling at that thread.
And before you go saying "that's different" bear in mind that Nazis killed tons of babies that were both in and out of wombs.
Satellites? Can't use em, So no TV and no phones for you. In many cases no internet. Nazi rocket tech gets them up there.
You DEFINITELY need to hate the moon landing.
Any swept-wing aircraft? You can't ride in it. Nazi scientist idea. Pretty much any modern aircraft is going to be out of bounds for you for a variety of reasons from engines to wings.
Modern radar? You better not. Nazi contributions. So you need to morally object to really knowing much about the weather and again you REALLY can't fly because they use so much radar to keep you from slamming into other planes up there.
And that's not even touching the products you can't use because of Nazi scientist advances in chemical engineering.
What about if you catch COVID and you give it to a pregnant mother and she could die or the baby could die due to complications, where's your moral obligation lie there?
But please, keep telling us more about what a conscientious objector you are by being a vector for a deadly disease because 5 decades ago somebody made a choice most of us wouldn't have made.
That was in my drinking days, many years ago. I would still like to go sometime for a beer or two maybe, some good fun and the atmosphere. But its been so long, I don't even remember where we used to go but it was fun! Looking for some names should we ever get there again for the experiences outside of the game?
You're on point with this post. The 'vaccine' is being pushed on everyone and that is problematic. Children, pregnant women? If a person has had the wild virus and somehow survived <sarcasm>, that needs to be taken into account because they now have the antibodies and TCells. There is ZERO evidence that a person that was infected prior can spread the virus UNLESS they have been re-infected. However, re-infection cases are rare and I am skeptical because the Covid-19 PCR test is complete BS. Everyone knows it's worthless. Plus, 'vaccinated' people can potentially still spread the virus. It's unknown, so no assumptions can be made about that.
I hope this becomes like the flu shot. Every fall, the CDC will guess at which Corona strain is dominant and design a shot around it. The likelihood that they guess correctly will probably be similar to the flu, 20%.
I also hope people understand Covid-19 and it's variants are here to stay. People need to decide if they want to live a normal life, or if they will live as indoor zoom cats.
How long ago were you on campus as a student?
The rail is still there, Bodegas, Sandy's...I am not sure which other ones are still there from when I was on campus.
I dont have a problem wearing a mask. That said, I dont have any interest in going to the spring game. I prefer to watch games in other places. Sports Bars/Restaurants (very rarely), campsites on satellite, or home.
Wasn't a student there. Not sure where that came from. I have been to several games but have not taken in any of the downtown atmosphere for many years.
I guess it's up to everyone to do their own research.
J&J so far has not had any super bad adverse outcomes. Their vaccine uses DNA, not mRNA, so it's much more robust and doesn't need to be stored at ridiculous temps. I don't believe anyone has died from it, and finally, the method of entering the cell is via an Adenovirus (like common cold) so, I'm told.
The mRNA vaccines have killed > 2,000 people and many more adverse reactions because the method of entry into the cell is via a protein mask (hence why there are allergic reactions to it).
Millions of people have been just fine after taking the more available mRNA vaccines, but I believe the J&J vaccine is much safer.
1 month after vaccination, it has shown 100% effective against hospitalization and death due to covid.
J&J so far has not had any super bad adverse outcomes. Their vaccine uses DNA, not mRNA, so it's much more robust and doesn't need to be stored at ridiculous temps. I don't believe anyone has died from it, and finally, the method of entering the cell is via an Adenovirus (like common cold) so, I'm told.
The mRNA vaccines have killed > 2,000 people and many more adverse reactions because the method of entry into the cell is via a protein mask (hence why there are allergic reactions to it).
Millions of people have been just fine after taking the more available mRNA vaccines, but I believe the J&J vaccine is much safer.
1 month after vaccination, it has shown 100% effective against hospitalization and death due to covid.
As of now the Big 10 is limiting attendance to 50% for all athletic events, but Moos stated it may be up to 75% by the time the game is played. Don't know if that's just his personal opinion.
I wonder if Frost picked such a late date for the spring game in the hopes that it might get counted as a regular season win.
^^ This
I'd rather do that than sit in the stands - find a bar with some wings and beverages and watch it on the screen. I'm clearly older than I once was.
Give it a rest Beaver. All of this crap would have been developed with or without the Nazis. Sure am glad aborted babies helped us land on the moon! By your reasoning, Nazism should make a comeback so we can have more cool innovations. Time travel anyone?
That is BS. Your bias or Qness is showing. The CDC clearly states that the vaccines have not killed 0.0018% of those vaccinated.
CDC...
"126 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 22, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,216 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."
The one bar I wish was reincarnated would be P.O. Pears. Lots of space, good food, sand vball, multiple bars... good times.