Speculation about transfers leaving RU

RUSCFORMERLYRULOU

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There was speculation in another thread about someone leaving RU due to playing time. The only players that I could see leaving would be KIss or Mamadou. The former doesn’t seem likely since he’s already sat out one year. Mamadou seems more likely but his playing time would increase next year.
 

Sideline20

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I think we have 2 scholarships available for next season.

Doorson out- Mulcahy in
Thiam out - available (1)
Joey Downes (on scholarship for '18-19) back to walk on - available (2)
 

koko2315

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yup, that Thiam scholly could be a good one. What's the JUCO market looking like? Late bloomers in frosh class?
 

kcg88

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Speculation about specific players is sort of useless. I think everyone here knows who the possible transfers are. Here's the timeline...

Mensah and Bullock were announced as departures on March 23 last year.

Nigel Johnson announced March 24.

Etou announced March 27.

Foreman announced April 1.

Rosario announced April 14.

Laurent announced April 16.

So by late April we'll know.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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We should be watching the coaching carousel that's underway around the country and the usual fallout from recruits attached to those schools, fallout attached to those assistant coaches on those staffs and reclassifying 2020 recruits that can move back to their class of 2019. Any movement on RU's roster is the furthest thing from my mind right now.
 

ejgonz

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We should be watching the coaching carousel that's underway around the country and the usual fallout from recruits attached to those schools, fallout attached to those assistant coaches on those staffs and reclassifying 2020 recruits that can move back to their class of 2019. Any movement on RU's roster is the furthest thing from my mind right now.

Wake Forest!
 

Kbee3

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Will we be able to find playing time for six guards next year ?
Baker, Kiss, Mathis, McConnell, Young, Mulcahy.
 

BillyC80

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Will we be able to find playing time for six guards next year ?
Baker, Kiss, Mathis, McConnell, Young, Mulcahy.
Also, which of those six are capable of playing the 3 slot for certain stretches during a game?
 

mikebal9

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Will we be able to find playing time for six guards next year ?
Baker, Kiss, Mathis, McConnell, Young, Mulcahy.
I hope this doesn't come off mean, but I don't see any way Kiss is a part of that rotation. Also, we really have no idea what Young is going to be.
 
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biazza38

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This was mentioned earlier is this thread, but pay attention to Wake. Second, I think Pike goes hard after a grad transfer. These things can drag out all the way into the summer (see CJ Gettys). Things may pick up and then get quiet again. That has usually been the trend in the past. Please please please don’t let that lead to “Pike can’t close” threads when we miss out on some grad transfers
 

Greene Rice FIG

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I'd prioritize a grad transfer over a JuCo or a high school prospect. Better chance for immediate impact from a grad transfer.

except.......why would a grad transfer pick Rutgers?

Realisticly we arent making the NCAA tournament next year.

No JJ Moore or that shooting guard who didnt play D.

The only grad transfer that makes sense is a 5. I know CJ worked out, but I highly doubt we are going to get luck with a 6'10''+ guy again.


If we have 130 perimeter minutes (assuming 10 with smaller Harper lineup)

Baker, Young, Mulcahy, Mathis, Caleb, Harper----6 guys
130/6=21.7 minutes

70 minutes big
4- Eugene 30 minutes
5- Carter Duke Myles 40 minutes

Grad player has to be very good for us to want to retard the development of young guys.

I hate transfers, but if there is a Eugene replacement that would make some sense.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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247 has a high choice recruit as Marvin Price, a 6'5" SF from B-more and Team BBC, Tez connection.

Is he taking Caleb's minutes?
Is he taking Harper's minutes?
Is he taking Young's minutes?
Is he taking Mathis minutes?
Is Mulcahy not ready?
Is he taking Baker's minutes and Mulcahy is ready?
 
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koko2315

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Realisticly we arent making the NCAA tournament next year.

No JJ Moore or that shooting guard who didnt play D.

The only grad transfer that makes sense is a 5. I know CJ worked out, but I highly doubt we are going to get luck with a 6'10''+ guy again.


If we have 130 perimeter minutes (assuming 10 with smaller Harper lineup)

Baker, Young, Mulcahy, Mathis, Caleb, Harper----6 guys
130/6=21.7 minutes

7

So without knowing who is staying/going from the rest of the B1G. Without knowing our OOC schedule. Without knowing what Mulcahy looks like, just pack it in? Not a tournament team. If this team showed us anything this season is that the games are not played on paper or on matchups only.

One grad transfer that can fill it up and get his own shot would do this team a WORLD of difference.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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So without knowing who is staying/going from the rest of the B1G. Without knowing our OOC schedule. Without knowing what Mulcahy looks like, just pack it in? Not a tournament team. If this team showed us anything this season is that the games are not played on paper or on matchups only.

One grad transfer that can fill it up and get his own shot would do this team a WORLD of difference.

I am saying from the eyes of a grad transfer....you either
1. Look for a team where you can get PT and put up numbers for the future (JJ Moore)
2. Look for a winning team and play in the NCAAs
 

NewJerseyHawk

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The grad transfer needs to be a defensive player in the front court, that doesn't have a huge desire to be a scoring priority and is mobile enough to cover screen and rolls and screen and pops, while being somewhat able to move his feet and keep up with some of the front court players we face most nights.

The idea of a shooting stretch PF, that can defend, rebound and shoot is a fallacy that doesn't exist OR he is Ron Harper Jr, which I am fine with asking Ron to be that player.......you may get a shooter, but he may not be mobile or able to defend. Our defense is a huge liability and we have no relief for Eugene on either end of the court....Ron has solid ability to be a good defender.

Our front court defense, doesn't have lateral quickness, length or shot blocking beyond what Myles Johnson may give us. I would assume Eugene provides that, but he's not healthy and I cannot assume he can sustain 30 minutes a night for 30+ games.
 

RUChoppin

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Don't care. Seriously. Has very little to do with RU Hoops 2019-20.

So, I'm confused. You say you know what he'll bring, but that his prior performance has little to do with RU Hoops 2019-20.

What are you basing your expectations on, if not his experience at Texas?
 

Scangg

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You need to look at the new additions in the sense of what skill sets do they bring to the table and is that skill set something we need?

Young brings quickness perimeter PG defense and an ability to score the ball and get to the basket. These are all places where RU struggled this season. It's hard to imagine a scenario where he doesn't see minutes next season
 

RUChoppin

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You need to look at the new additions in the sense of what skill sets do they bring to the table and is that skill set something we need?

Young brings quickness perimeter PG defense and an ability to score the ball and get to the basket. These are all places where RU struggled this season. It's hard to imagine a scenario where he doesn't see minutes next season

Defense I'll give you based on his performance at Texas, but ability to get to the basket and score is speculation. That's not what he was really called upon to do at Texas, and it'll be a different role for him here.

I definitely expect him to see minutes next year, but I really don't know what we're going to get. There's something of a "once bitten, twice shy" approach after Nigel Johnson, too. I'm certainly not going to predict starter minutes right now, but I'd imagine he'd at least be fighting for first-guard-off-the-bench with McConnell (and possibly Mulcahy)
 

kcg88

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Grad transfers are almost never the right answer. How did the guy from Evansville help Northwestern? How much is Chartouney doing at Marquette? How about Ehab al Amin on Oregon?
 
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Perricone7

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I am saying from the eyes of a grad transfer....you either
1. Look for a team where you can get PT and put up numbers for the future (JJ Moore)
2. Look for a winning team and play in the NCAAs

A. There is plent of playing time available for a 4 or 5.
B. I don’t see why NCAA isn’t on the agenda for next season. Much crazier things have happened.
C. Grad transfers come in all varieties. There are plenty of guys looking to step up in conference, change of scenery, grad program, etc. look at CJ Gettys.
 
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HeavenUniv.

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Russ, The Gators just beat Arkansas by 16. Is that enough to get in NCAA's or do they need to beat LSU tomorrow ?
 

BigLou

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Assuming Thiam is gone for good, using that scholarship for a grad transfer keeps the scholarship rotation the same since Pike can recuit a freshman class of '20 for that spot (thiam would have bee a senior)

As far as transfers, I am going to say there will not be any. If Mamadou was going to transfer, it would have made sense to do so in January so that he would be eligible next season (hardship waiver aside). Everyone else knows their role on the team and should not be afraid of challenges from newcomers.
 

Rhuarc

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Grad transfers are almost never the right answer. How did the guy from Evansville help Northwestern? How much is Chartouney doing at Marquette? How about Ehab al Amin on Oregon?
A grad transfer doesn't have a to be a superstar, just a puzzle piece that fills a void in what you don't have. I think a 3 point shooter or a defensive big man would bring good value.