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Nittering Nabob

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It's only a temporary injunction issued by a visiting judge to the 99th Circuit of the US District Court which is located in Lubbock. The judge formerly lived and practiced near Fort Worth.

I would expect the NCAA to appeal to the Fifth Circuit of US Court of Appeals which is located in New Orleans. The farther away from Lubbock the better chance of NCAA prevailing. Court of appeals judges, also called circuit judges, usually sit in a panel of three judges to determine whether the law was applied correctly by a lower court or administrative agency.
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Erial_Lion

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A temporary injunction. I’ll start yelling if this becomes permanent. Yeah, horsesh!t.
It's so brutal. I feel the same way as I did about the Bedoako ruling (the Alabama basketball player that Bama went to court to get eligible)...he was allowed to play 5 games, then the courts finally got to the case and ruled him ineligible. Since Bama took the risk of playing a guy that had been ruled ineligible by the NCAA, I felt they should forfeit the games he played (and TT should forfeit games that Sorsby plays if he's later ruled ineligible). It's unfair to the opponents to play games against a team with an ineligible player simply because the team/player is getting an injunction.
 

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Recall Reggie Bush returning his Heisman for getting money for a place for his folks. Or the whole OSU nonsense (suspended from post season play) for trading memorabilia for tattoos. This is so f*cking pathetic.
This player is on a fast march to either a failed life or an early death because people who have the power to do the right thing for him continue to do the wrong thing for the worst reasons. The juduciary in this country has become so corrupt. Did anybody really thing that a judge in TT's own state would rule otherwise?
 

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NCAA is on a losing streak. They lose more power with each loss. They may decide to save their money and let it go.

Unfortunately for the sport, gambling is the red line for most people, even the athletes. Assault, DUI, theft, bad checks, etc.—Pay the fine and do the time and the athlete can usually find a way to get reinstated. Gambling strikes at the heart of the sport and athletes cannot participate. Sorsby may get away with a 2 game suspension which is ridiculous.
 

BCS PSU

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NCAA is on a losing streak. They lose more power with each loss. They may decide to save their money and let it go.

Unfortunately for the sport, gambling is the red line for most people, even the athletes. Assault, DUI, theft, bad checks, etc.—Pay the fine and do the time and the athlete can usually find a way to get reinstated. Gambling strikes at the heart of the sport and athletes cannot participate. Sorsby may get away with a 2 game suspension which is ridiculous.
I agree with you about the NCAA; it largely has become a toothless organization really ever since after the PSU sanctions. I don't even know what their purpose is anymore, as no school with any power respects their decisions anymore when they can do to a hometown judge who has an invested interest to overtuen a decision.

Also, considering that gambling is probably the worst non-criminal thing that a NFL player or any pro athlete can do, I don't think that any team ever will take a chance on him, especially after he was found to have bet on his own IU team.
 

Erial_Lion

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Also, considering that gambling is probably the worst non-criminal thing that a NFL player or any pro athlete can do, I don't think that any team ever will take a chance on him, especially after he was found to have bet on his own IU team.
Of course teams will take a chance on him (as you're seeing with Texas Tech right now).

Again, he should be suspended and move on to the NFL at this point...but it's not like he was fixing games, betting big $, betting on games that he played in, etc (end even if he had, there would still likely be teams willing to take a chance). He was a small stakes guy that bet on his own team in games that he didn't suit up. Wrong...but not a death sentence.
 

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Of course teams will take a chance on him (as you're seeing with Texas Tech right now).

Again, he should be suspended and move on to the NFL at this point...but it's not like he was fixing games, betting big $, betting on games that he played in, etc (end even if he had, there would still likely be teams willing to take a chance). He was a small stakes guy that bet on his own team in games that he didn't suit up. Wrong...but not a death sentence.
Tell that to Pete Rose. Back in the 60s, Paul Horning and Alex Karras were suspended for gambling, and most recently Calvin Ridley was suspended for a season.
 

LionJim

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Of course teams will take a chance on him (as you're seeing with Texas Tech right now).

Again, he should be suspended and move on to the NFL at this point...but it's not like he was fixing games, betting big $, betting on games that he played in, etc (end even if he had, there would still likely be teams willing to take a chance). He was a small stakes guy that bet on his own team in games that he didn't suit up. Wrong...but not a death sentence.
I’ll stick to my opinion that “don’t bet on or against your own team” is a line you don’t cross, under any circumstances. Any other team, knock yourself out. I have no interest in arguing this point.
 
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Erial_Lion

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Tell that to Pete Rose. Back in the 60s, Paul Horning and Alex Karras were suspended for gambling, and most recently Calvin Ridley was suspended for a season.
Pete Rose bet on games that he was managing...and was banned from the league for it. If Sorsby bet on NFL games, there would be a better chance that his NFL days were over. Doing it in college gives him a better chance of playing pro football.
 

Connorpozlee

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NCAA is on a losing streak. They lose more power with each loss. They may decide to save their money and let it go.

Unfortunately for the sport, gambling is the red line for most people, even the athletes. Assault, DUI, theft, bad checks, etc.—Pay the fine and do the time and the athlete can usually find a way to get reinstated. Gambling strikes at the heart of the sport and athletes cannot participate. Sorsby may get away with a 2 game suspension which is ridiculous.
As a coach, why would you want this guy on your team?
 

manatree

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I’ll stick to my opinion that “don’t bet on or against your own team school” is a line you don’t cross, under any circumstances. Any other team, knock yourself out. I have no interest in arguing this point.
I would expand it to any sport at your school. Student Athletes are still a closed group and there is too big of a chance of collusion among players of different teams.
 

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Big 12 teams consider not playing Texas Tech, given the Brendan Sorsby ruling​


Good news? Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby has regained his eligibility to play college football in 2026.

Bad news? The Red Raiders could have no one to play against.

Via Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports, other Big 12 teams have considered refusing to play Texas Tech, if Sorsby is permitted to play after admitting to making bets on Indiana games when he was a member of the Indiana football team.



"We've had some serious conversation about it," Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor told Dellenger. "There is still a lot to be discussed. We aren't scheduled to play them this year, but it's something we have to look at from a college football perspective. This is greater than the Big 12."


Taylor, who was on the record, pulled no punches.

"It's ******* ********," Taylor told Dellenger. "I know the kid has a problem. Well, get well and focus on your problem. It is absolutely devastating for him to be able to play when every other sport, no matter the level, deems an athlete ineligible or they are punished severely for betting on their team."

Georgia Athletic Director Josh Brooks has taken it a step farther.



"I think there needs to be serious conversations about not playing Texas Tech in any sports," Brooks told Dellenger. "This is not about Texas Tech. It's about protecting our own locker room. We cannot in good conscience put our student-athletes on a field where the competitive integrity of the contest is compromised and overridden by the courts. If a state court wants to dictate eligibility rules, they can play themselves."

A decision by individual teams to refuse to play Texas Tech would have wide-ranging repercussions and ramifications. Would those teams forfeit the games, giving Texas Tech a slew of wins?

There would also be the issue of refunds of tickets and TV rights for games that aren't played. More litigation would be inevitable.

Big 12 teams consider not playing Texas Tech, given the Brendan Sorsby ruling
 

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Big 12 teams consider not playing Texas Tech, given the Brendan Sorsby ruling​


Good news? Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby has regained his eligibility to play college football in 2026.

Bad news? The Red Raiders could have no one to play against.

Via Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports, other Big 12 teams have considered refusing to play Texas Tech, if Sorsby is permitted to play after admitting to making bets on Indiana games when he was a member of the Indiana football team.



"We've had some serious conversation about it," Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor told Dellenger. "There is still a lot to be discussed. We aren't scheduled to play them this year, but it's something we have to look at from a college football perspective. This is greater than the Big 12."


Taylor, who was on the record, pulled no punches.

"It's ******* ********," Taylor told Dellenger. "I know the kid has a problem. Well, get well and focus on your problem. It is absolutely devastating for him to be able to play when every other sport, no matter the level, deems an athlete ineligible or they are punished severely for betting on their team."

Georgia Athletic Director Josh Brooks has taken it a step farther.



"I think there needs to be serious conversations about not playing Texas Tech in any sports," Brooks told Dellenger. "This is not about Texas Tech. It's about protecting our own locker room. We cannot in good conscience put our student-athletes on a field where the competitive integrity of the contest is compromised and overridden by the courts. If a state court wants to dictate eligibility rules, they can play themselves."

A decision by individual teams to refuse to play Texas Tech would have wide-ranging repercussions and ramifications. Would those teams forfeit the games, giving Texas Tech a slew of wins?

There would also be the issue of refunds of tickets and TV rights for games that aren't played. More litigation would be inevitable.

Big 12 teams consider not playing Texas Tech, given the Brendan Sorsby ruling
LOL.

Do any of these folks expect a single person to take them seriously?
Or is Ross D that desperate for clicks?
 
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Big 12 teams consider not playing Texas Tech, given the Brendan Sorsby ruling​


Good news? Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby has regained his eligibility to play college football in 2026.

Bad news? The Red Raiders could have no one to play against.

Via Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports, other Big 12 teams have considered refusing to play Texas Tech, if Sorsby is permitted to play after admitting to making bets on Indiana games when he was a member of the Indiana football team.



"We've had some serious conversation about it," Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor told Dellenger. "There is still a lot to be discussed. We aren't scheduled to play them this year, but it's something we have to look at from a college football perspective. This is greater than the Big 12."


Taylor, who was on the record, pulled no punches.

"It's ******* ********," Taylor told Dellenger. "I know the kid has a problem. Well, get well and focus on your problem. It is absolutely devastating for him to be able to play when every other sport, no matter the level, deems an athlete ineligible or they are punished severely for betting on their team."

Georgia Athletic Director Josh Brooks has taken it a step farther.



"I think there needs to be serious conversations about not playing Texas Tech in any sports," Brooks told Dellenger. "This is not about Texas Tech. It's about protecting our own locker room. We cannot in good conscience put our student-athletes on a field where the competitive integrity of the contest is compromised and overridden by the courts. If a state court wants to dictate eligibility rules, they can play themselves."

A decision by individual teams to refuse to play Texas Tech would have wide-ranging repercussions and ramifications. Would those teams forfeit the games, giving Texas Tech a slew of wins?

There would also be the issue of refunds of tickets and TV rights for games that aren't played. More litigation would be inevitable.

Big 12 teams consider not playing Texas Tech, given the Brendan Sorsby ruling

In an ideal world, they would refuse to play them in any sport for the season if he sees the field for a single play or more.
 

Nitt1300

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LOL.

Do any of these folks expect a single person to take them seriously?
Or is Ross D that desperate for clicks?
I suspect that the ADs quoted know more than I do about it
I'm sure you know more than they do, of course
 

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Sorsby betting record --
  • Indiana (2022–2023): While a freshman quarterback for the Hoosiers, Sorsby placed at least 40 bets on Indiana football games and players during his redshirt freshman year ESPN+1. These included 40+ bets on Indiana football, plus additional bets on Indiana basketball and unrelated college football games AP News. He also made at least 2,900 bets totaling over $30,000 during this period AP News.
  • Cincinnati (2024–2025): After transferring, he continued betting but not on the Bearcats. He began using accounts registered in his name, a family member’s name, and friends’ names ESPN+1.
  • Texas Tech (2025–2026): Even after transferring to Texas Tech, he sent money to others to place bets on his behalf, including via Venmo or Zelle to friends AP News.
  • Scale and frequency: Some reports indicate he placed 10,000+ bets across multiple states using apps like Hard Rock Bet, FanDuel, Underdog, PrizePicks, and BetMGM, with one period averaging 20 bets a day Yahoo Sports.
  • Funding method: He transferred large sums to friends and family to deposit into gambling accounts, including a FanDuel account registered to his brother-in-law
 
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  • Funding method: He transferred large sums to friends and family to deposit into gambling accounts, including a FanDuel account registered to his brother-in-law
This is the part that still makes no sense to me...why was he transferring "large sums" when he wasn't gambling that much? That part of things just don't add up (based on the amounts being reported), unless they are completely missing something.
 

Erial_Lion

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I suspect that the ADs quoted know more than I do about it
I'm sure you know more than they do, of course
He's not wrong...talking about teams being willing to forfeit games is great for clicks. In reality, no team is going to turn down millions of dollars to forfeit based on principal.
 

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Sorsby betting record --
  • Indiana (2022–2023): While a freshman quarterback for the Hoosiers, Sorsby placed at least 40 bets on Indiana football games and players during his redshirt freshman year ESPN+1. These included 40+ bets on Indiana football, plus additional bets on Indiana basketball and unrelated college football games AP News. He also made at least 2,900 bets totaling over $30,000 during this period AP News.
  • Cincinnati (2024–2025): After transferring, he continued betting but not on the Bearcats. He began using accounts registered in his name, a family member’s name, and friends’ names ESPN+1.
  • Texas Tech (2025–2026): Even after transferring to Texas Tech, he sent money to others to place bets on his behalf, including via Venmo or Zelle to friends AP News.
  • Scale and frequency: Some reports indicate he placed 10,000+ bets across multiple states using apps like Hard Rock Bet, FanDuel, Underdog, PrizePicks, and BetMGM, with one period averaging 20 bets a day Yahoo Sports.
  • Funding method: He transferred large sums to friends and family to deposit into gambling accounts, including a FanDuel account registered to his brother-in-law
So his family helped him break the rules instead of trying to talk sense into him and get him help for his "addiction" - nice crew there.
 

Nittering Nabob

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The judge clearly didn't consider or care about the consequences of his decision. He has successfully generated near-universal (*) outrage at his ruling.

(*) The billionaire oil guy who is funding TTU's NIL program (and probably Sorsby litigation) is on record trying to blame the "broken system". Nice try, Gomer.
 

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I hope the rumblings about schools refusing to play them actually happens. This is all utter insanity, even in the context of this insane sport.
Looking at their schedule...
Abilene Christian and Sam Houston aren't going to back out ($$$$)--Oregon State likely isn't giving up a home game
The rest of the schedule are Big XII teams so I guess the conference likely has to take a stand for anything to happen
 

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Of all the ADs, Conference Pooh-Bahs, Coaches etc who are "outraged":

The % of them that have players on their own teams (or teams under their purview) that are also gambling on a regular basis - on sports, including their own - is probably a number greater than 95% (and possibly/probably 100%).
The number of them who do not have revenues stream into their own programs/conferences that comes - somewhere down the line - from the sports betting industry (including college sports betting) is almost assuredly 0.0%
But, yes indeed, let the virtue signaling commence.
 

Nittering Nabob

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Of all the ADs, Conference Pooh-Bahs, Coaches etc who are "outraged":

The % of them that have players on their own teams (or teams under their purview) that are also gambling on a regular basis - on sports, including their own - is probably a number greater than 95% (and possibly/probably 100%).
The number of them who do not have revenues stream into their own programs/conferences that comes - somewhere down the line - from the sports betting industry (including college sports betting) is almost assuredly 0.0%
But, yes indeed, let the virtue signaling commence.
True, but it doesn’t really matter until and unless you get caught
 

KingLando

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Of all the ADs, Conference Pooh-Bahs, Coaches etc who are "outraged":

The % of them that have players on their own teams (or teams under their purview) that are also gambling on a regular basis - on sports, including their own - is probably a number greater than 95% (and possibly/probably 100%).
The number of them who do not have revenues stream into their own programs/conferences that comes - somewhere down the line - from the sports betting industry (including college sports betting) is almost assuredly 0.0%
But, yes indeed, let the virtue signaling commence.
And if those players are caught hopefully those ADs would kick them off the team.
The issue isn't that he gambled...its after being caught TTU decided to ignore it.
Ignorance is bliss...we're past that point with Sorsby