Something that should be addressed

[UKWildcatT]

True. But it’s the way it works and a lot of people just have to have it.

It still doesn’t change the fact that an institution like Duke rejects kids every year while giving special privilege to kids who, in some cases, wouldn’t start at the college level in a community college. It’s pitiful.

Maybe folks should take a stand and start spreading the word how it’s actually a scam?

 

[bthaunert]

True. But it’s the way it works and a lot of people just have to have it.

It still doesn’t change the fact that an institution like Duke rejects kids every year while giving special privilege to kids who, in some cases, wouldn’t start at the college level in a community college. It’s pitiful.

If they aren't taking any spots away from the general student population, does it matter?

 

[bthaunert]

Amen OP. I made the exact same point the day MJ went on his soapbox rant about the rich kids admission scandal. Both are wrong IMO.

But honestly, how is exploiting these young, usually black, athletes for the schools financial gain not MORE wrong? The rich kids are at least paying their way for taking up someone elses spot. Its still wrong. But is it more wrong than lowering your standards so a kid who isnt smart enough can play ball so your school can remain relevant in a lucrative sport?

Hmmm....

We are thinking in the context of big time programs. There are about 15,000 males on scholarship between football and basketball in Division 1, a majority of which will never play professionally and use their athletic ability as a way to gain a college education. A portion of those are kids that otherwise could never afford college. is that such a bad thing?

 

[LexCatnOhio]

Private schools that lower admissions across the board for competition. I’m just wondering how a school like Vanderbilt or Duke isn’t seen as what’s wrong with college athletics? Cal promoted players to go be paid, Duke and Vandy promote a diploma that most of these guys shouldn’t be offered. Has Jay Bilas or ESPN or the NCAA ever discussed this at all? Imagine your kid having a 4.0, ACT scores of 32, and being rejected to Duke while Duval, Williamson, Bagley, and Barrett suit up with duke across their chest? Isn’t this where the line shouldn’t be crossed?

Maybe before we discuss professionalism, we should shut out the kids who don’t have the grades to go to college in the first place. I’m guessing that will eliminate more than half of the ones that want to be paid day one.

I thought that was the point of college sports scholarships. It gives kids the opportunity to go to a college they might not otherwise have the opportunity for. Both backs are scratched. I do see your point though. With the recent news that people are paying ridiculous amounts of money for college admissions, I think it’s a great way to keep the playing field even. Otherwise some students may not get to go to college at all.

 

[precipitance]

Stanford was caught up in that admission scandal too. logic would state if you have to make your kid an athlete in order to get into Stanford that they also lower their standards.

 

[Spanish Radio]

The NCAA minimum has gone to a sliding scale on SAT\ACT scores and GPA score for admission.

The higher the GPA you have the lower your test score needs to be:

https://www.ncsasports.org/ncaa-eligibility-center/ncaa-sliding-scale

Duke requires whatever the NCAA minimum is. DickyV used to lose his mind over what great student athletes both UNC and Duke had. He no longer does that.

As for the one and done Dukies getting a world class education...[laughing]

 

[shaolin style]

I feel like UNCheat should be mentioned in here somewhere...

 

[CB3UK]

We are thinking in the context of big time programs. There are about 15,000 males on scholarship between football and basketball in Division 1, a majority of which will never play professionally and use their athletic ability as a way to gain a college education. A portion of those are kids that otherwise could never afford college. is that such a bad thing?

Giving scholarships to someone who can't afford it isn't the same as giving scholarships to someone who doesnt meet the intellectual admissions standards.

 

[morgousky]

We are thinking in the context of big time programs. There are about 15,000 males on scholarship between football and basketball in Division 1, a majority of which will never play professionally and use their athletic ability as a way to gain a college education. A portion of those are kids that otherwise could never afford college. is that such a bad thing?

If you’re rejecting kids who have excellent grades because they aren’t quite high enough, but allowing a kid who doesn’t even care about academics because he’s fast, that’s crossing a line in my book man

 

[bthaunert]

Giving scholarships to someone who can't afford it isn't the same as giving scholarships to someone who doesnt meet the intellectual admissions standards.

So, you're good with getting rid of college football and basketball as we know it because we want to hold all students to the same standards?

 

[bthaunert]

If you’re rejecting kids who have excellent grades because they aren’t quite high enough, but allowing a kid who doesn’t even care about academics because he’s fast, that’s crossing a line in my book man

Then you should stop watching college sports, because there are thousands of kids who get in to a school based on their athletic ability and not their grades.