someone please explain this.....

[Fed-Up]

This week I had a guy tell me the line " If Scott Frost can't do it....who can?" to which I replied ..."just about any other coach could do better" ...THEN...I got the "Well who else will want to come here if we fire Frost?"....and again I replied "just about any other football coach" (yes, I know that is a broad statement...but money works magic sometimes). Then to top it off and complete the circle I got the " It's not his fault...you just can't recruit great players to Lincoln"....and my reply was pretty much the same except shorter...."Why not (with a mention of lack of developement)?" All I got was crickets. Then the conversation was over.

The thing that makes me just scratch my head is the mentality it takes to believe any of those statements. Please enlighten me. I really and trying to have a better attitude about Husker Football (still Fed-Up but tryng to be calmer about it.)

 

[nostromo78]

After failing to 'fix' the program for over 20 years, people have just as much right to be skeptical of it ever changing as you do of being skeptical of the current coach. People are sick of losing, sick of starting the cycle over getting the same results.

 

[TheHuskerFreak]

After failing to 'fix' the program for over 20 years, people have just as much right to be skeptical of it ever changing as you do of being skeptical of the current coach. People are sick of losing, sick of starting the cycle over getting the same results.

Ok, but Frost has been the worst coach in those 20 years. Bo Pelini won 9 games every year and made 3 conference championship games. Frost hasn't been even remotely close to doing that.

If you want to say "there is no coach that can take Nebraska back to the elite level of college football," ok. I might disagree, but I'd get that sentiment after the last 20 years. Saying there are coaches that couldn't do better than Frost is silly.

If people are sick of losing, the last thing they should want is for this to continue.

 

[Rcnut223]

Money , the ability to control what you are doing with the football program and support will get a good if not great coach to come to Lincoln

 

[nostromo78]

Ok, but Frost has been the worst coach in those 20 years. Bo Pelini won 9 games every year and made 3 conference championship games. Frost hasn't been even remotely close to doing that.

If you want to say "there is no coach that can take Nebraska back to the elite level of college football," ok. I might disagree, but I'd get that sentiment after the last 20 years. Saying there are coaches that couldn't do better than Frost is silly.

If people are sick of losing, the last thing they should want is for this to continue.

oh, Im not saying Im one of those people. I 100% believe you pony up and get Urban Meyer or Aranda or whoever here, they can turn this around. Im just saying, people are sick of the whole deal, so they are saying things like "who would want to coach here, or who better than Frost" because they have been sitting around waiting for 20+ years and they are skeptical because we keep plugging guys in and keep watching them fail.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Money , the ability to control what you are doing with the football program and support will get a good if not great coach to come to Lincoln

Only if approved by the knights of Osborne, otherwise they will work against them from day 1

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

This team would be better off without a head coach, if it meant they were not being “lead” by a miserable person who has convinced many that he’s a victim by making basically 2 million dollars per win, and never beating any team with a pulse

 

[Anon1675909812]

Frank was set up to fail
No help on assistant coaches from Coach Tom
AD didn't do a very good job on the next hire well Duh
Bo was not the right choice as his anger and lack of effort on recruiting

Riley was a failure as hiring a 50% coach guess what he finished 50% then Scott and everyone thought Scott would work out
13 I think coach of the year awards.
So nothing was setup worth a damn it has nothing to do with Nebraska it has to do with failure of leadership pure and simple

 

[Red Runney]

This week I had a guy tell me the line " If Scott Frost can't do it....who can?" to which I replied ..."just about any other coach could do better" ...THEN...I got the "Well who else will want to come here if we fire Frost?"....and again I replied "just about any other football coach" (yes, I know that is a broad statement...but money works magic sometimes). Then to top it off and complete the circle I got the " It's not his fault...you just can't recruit great players to Lincoln"....and my reply was pretty much the same except shorter...."Why not (with a mention of lack of developement)?" All I got was crickets. Then the conversation was over.

The thing that makes me just scratch my head is the mentality it takes to believe any of those statements. Please enlighten me. I really and trying to have a better attitude about Husker Football (still Fed-Up but tryng to be calmer about it.)

IMO your guy was spot on.

 

[konaki]

Nebraska has everything a great coach would want, Facilities, supportive fan's , history, weather that's not too terrible and patience to a certain level. What we don't have is a great recruiting hot bed, and to a fault many rabid fans who follow your every move, the proverbial fish bowl.

I expect and want Alberts to open Nebraska's pocket book and pay to get the right man for the job, no nickels and dimes. You spend 155 million on facilities and don't spend it on an elite solid coach is just ludicrous. Let's put the cherry on top and finish this thing the right way, hire the guy who won't mess around and get this turned around quickly.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Ok, but Frost has been the worst coach in those 20 years. Bo Pelini won 9 games every year and made 3 conference championship games. Frost hasn't been even remotely close to doing that.

If you want to say "there is no coach that can take Nebraska back to the elite level of college football," ok. I might disagree, but I'd get that sentiment after the last 20 years. Saying there are coaches that couldn't do better than Frost is silly.

If people are sick of losing, the last thing they should want is for this to continue.

Yep!

The "Bo scares me" fans fail to realize that if Bo acted like Scott, he would still be here and NU would have won the west another 5 times or so.

 

[Red Runney]

Nebraska has everything a great coach would want, Facilities, supportive fan's , history, weather that's not too terrible and patience to a certain level. What we don't have is a great recruiting hot bed, and to a fault many rabid fans who follow your every move, the proverbial fish bowl.

I expect and want Alberts to open Nebraska's pocket book and pay to get the right man for the job, no nickels and dimes. You spend 155 million on facilities and don't spend it on an elite solid coach is just ludicrous. Let's put the cherry on top and finish this thing the right way, hire the guy who won't mess around and get this turned around quickly.

Isn't that what they said about hiring Scooter?

 

[Anon1675909812]

You act like no other program has gone through coaches to find a good one.
Oklahoma Texas Alabama Auburn USC UCLA Washington Notre Dame Ohio State now Nebraska

 

[PCastro]

Yep!

The "Bo scares me" fans fail to realize that if Bo acted like Scott, he would still be here and NU would have won the west another 5 times or so.

Disagree with win west that much. Bo started to slack in recruiting at the end and failed to have the kind of depth you need in todays big 10 play (but he would do way better than Scott)

 

[bshirt73]

Yep!

The "Bo scares me" fans fail to realize that if Bo acted like Scott, he would still be here and NU would have won the west another 5 times or so.

So very well stated sir. Bo won 9 or 10 games every year which is way, wayyyyyy better than Clownahan, Riley & Frost.

 

[SuperBigFan]

So very well stated sir. Bo won 9 or 10 games every year which is way, wayyyyyy better than Clownahan, Riley & Frost.

The "Bo was closer o 3 win seasons than 11 win seasons" fans were so ******* annoying.

Hey dorky NU fans...you think Frost loves you? Newsflash, he finds us fans annoying as ****.

 

[Redmich]

oh, Im not saying Im one of those people. I 100% believe you pony up and get Urban Meyer or Aranda or whoever here, they can turn this around. Im just saying, people are sick of the whole deal, so they are saying things like "who would want to coach here, or who better than Frost" because they have been sitting around waiting for 20+ years and they are skeptical because we keep plugging guys in and keep watching them fail.

Bob stoops - coordinator
Dabo - assistant
Brian Kelly at ND - G5
Sweater vest
Ryan Day - coordinator
Kirby Smart - coordinator
Gundy

None of these guys were proven power 5 winners - you eventually find your guy

 

[SuperBigFan]

Bob stoops - coordinator
Dabo - assistant
Brian Kelly at ND - G5
Sweater vest
Ryan Day - coordinator
Kirby Smart - coordinator
Gundy

None of these guys were proven power 5 winners - you eventually find your guy

Yep...people don't seem to remember how lame Clemson FB had been for about 30 years...

 

[HominidHusker]

This week I had a guy tell me the line " If Scott Frost can't do it....who can?" to which I replied ..."just about any other coach could do better" ...THEN...I got the "Well who else will want to come here if we fire Frost?"....and again I replied "just about any other football coach" (yes, I know that is a broad statement...but money works magic sometimes). Then to top it off and complete the circle I got the " It's not his fault...you just can't recruit great players to Lincoln"....and my reply was pretty much the same except shorter...."Why not (with a mention of lack of developement)?" All I got was crickets. Then the conversation was over.

The thing that makes me just scratch my head is the mentality it takes to believe any of those statements. Please enlighten me. I really and trying to have a better attitude about Husker Football (still Fed-Up but tryng to be calmer about it.)

The lack of team talent cup doesn’t hold much water when we’ve consistently lost to teams that have “lesser talent.”

I was just thinking about it this morning. Trying my best to ignore Wins or Losses, how often has it been apparent that another team showed up looking more prepared, more aware, more ready to play than us? I’d say it’s been the vast majority of games. Very rarely have I felt we had a coaching “advantage.”
Some games we’ve won, I still felt like we got out-coached.

Add to it the apparent lack of development for the talent we have. There may be a couple exceptions, but I would argue Frost has not proven any consistent ability to take raw material and elevate it very far = maximize the roster.

 

[10Trvln]

Yep!

The "Bo scares me" fans fail to realize that if Bo acted like Scott, he would still be here and NU would have won the west another 5 times or so.

That’s a little doubtful. Bo wasn’t that good of coach. Carl was the brains of the operation.

 

[JOHNNY N]

I'm sure somebody else can win at least 5 games a year.

 

[Hford]

A lot of stupid people out there. The key is not caring about what they say.

 

[steinek11]

Disagree with win west that much. Bo started to slack in recruiting at the end and failed to have the kind of depth you need in todays big 10 play (but he would do way better than Scott)

Good old bo. He put the stars on the players, not the other way around.

 

[Anon1669515999]

When you fail to plan you plan to fail. Frost said he would combine the old with the new, he abandoned that plan before before the end of his first year. He only talks in coach speak and doesn’t answer any hard questions.. Like the three coaches before him he takes no responsibility for player development. If there was any incentive for his assistants to show improvement at player level they would all be beating up Duval for better player development It’s sickening how Osborne’s offensive lines were all 6 ft 2 and 260 on a good day and you wouldn’t take one of Frosts 300 pounders to play on those teams. When Trev Alberts and this administration let’s them loose with no accountability it infects the other sports, look at the men’s sports now.

 

[bigboxes]

I'm sure somebody else can win at least 5 games a year.

Agreed. How are we accepting this at NEBRASKA? Time to write the check.

 

[Boiler_B]

You act like no other program has gone through coaches to find a good one.
Oklahoma Texas Alabama Auburn USC UCLA Washington Notre Dame Ohio State now Nebraska

Good list, just gotta take Ohio State off of it.
I cant remember when they made a bad hire to be honest.

Their definition of a "bad hire" was John Cooper who had a .715 winning % shared 3 conference titles. But was 2-10-1 vs Michigan.

That's considered a bad hire at Tosu..

Lol

 

[Anon1675909812]

Good list, just gotta take Ohio State off of it.
I cant remember when they made a bad hire to be honest.

Their definition of a "bad hire" was John Cooper who had a .715 winning % shared 3 conference titles. But was 2-10-1 vs Michigan.

That's considered a bad hire at Tosu..

Lol

Yes sorry on Ohio State you are correct.

Throw in Florida State Florida and Miami all 3 had success then went through several coaches and all 3 are in hot bed recruiting areas.
Dan Mullin was supposed to be a great hire for Florida and that fizzled out.
I blame Upper Management more at Nebraska than the coaches.
Not sure the year it was when Bo was the coach NCAA came out with you could hire people for the recruiting office
Alabama hires like 40 people Nebraska allows Bo 1 or 2. See the difference it's not just coaching its also behind the scenes that makes a difference as well.
Nebraska has to decide if it wants to be a BIG BOY PLAYER or not.
It's not like the era of Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne it's a big business now.

 

[Boiler_B]

Yes sorry on Ohio State you are correct.

Throw in Florida State Florida and Miami all 3 had success then went through several coaches and all 3 are in hot bed recruiting areas.
Dan Mullin was supposed to be a great hire for Florida and that fizzled out.
I blame Upper Management more at Nebraska than the coaches.
Not sure the year it was when Bo was the coach NCAA came out with you could hire people for the recruiting office
Alabama hires like 40 people Nebraska allows Bo 1 or 2. See the difference it's not just coaching its also behind the scenes that makes a difference as well.
Nebraska has to decide if it wants to be a BIG BOY PLAYER or not.
It's not like the era of Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne it's a big business now.

If u remember when the NCAA approved more staff members Bo refused to hire more, it wasnt that the school would allow him, Bo himself said he didn't want to hire anymore...remember?

 

[Anon1675909812]

If u remember when the NCAA approved more staff members Bo refused to hire more, it wasnt that the school would allow him, Bo himself said he didn't want to hire anymore...remember?

No I wasn't aware of that I was under the premise he was not allowed.

Why would he not want the recruiting team to build the program? Do you happen to know why?

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Yep!

The "Bo scares me" fans fail to realize that if Bo acted like Scott, he would still be here and NU would have won the west another 5 times or so.

Hahaha. Good one

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Yes sorry on Ohio State you are correct.

Throw in Florida State Florida and Miami all 3 had success then went through several coaches and all 3 are in hot bed recruiting areas.
Dan Mullin was supposed to be a great hire for Florida and that fizzled out.
I blame Upper Management more at Nebraska than the coaches.
Not sure the year it was when Bo was the coach NCAA came out with you could hire people for the recruiting office
Alabama hires like 40 people Nebraska allows Bo 1 or 2. See the difference it's not just coaching its also behind the scenes that makes a difference as well.
Nebraska has to decide if it wants to be a BIG BOY PLAYER or not.
It's not like the era of Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne it's a big business now.

Bo literally turned down offer for more recruiting staff, and Eichorst tripled the recruiting budget Osborne gave Bo. Let’s not lie to cover up for a coach who (out of spite, because he was a petulant child) put his team on self-induced probation almost every year

 

[RiLLLLLLLLey]

Ok, but Frost has been the worst coach in those 20 years. Bo Pelini won 9 games every year and made 3 conference championship games. Frost hasn't been even remotely close to doing that.

If you want to say "there is no coach that can take Nebraska back to the elite level of college football," ok. I might disagree, but I'd get that sentiment after the last 20 years. Saying there are coaches that couldn't do better than Frost is silly.

If people are sick of losing, the last thing they should want is for this to continue.

I'm still butthurt about Pelini being let go. Was then, and am probably even moreso now. A lot of people often forget that he won 10 games 3 times in 7 seasons.

Since Osborne, we've fired TWO coaches who had solid records: Frank Solich and Bo Pelini. In other words, 2/5 of Osborne's successors had final winning records of above 9 wins per season.

Yet, we feel cursed. These pains we're experiencing are self-inflicted; at least insomuch as two athletic directors (and certain boosters) are responsible for it.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

No I wasn't aware of that I was under the premise he was not allowed.

Why would he not want the recruiting team to build the program? Do you happen to know why?

Because he didn’t care. He was trying to get any other job for multiple years. That doesn’t stop the dorks from pining for the guy who got his doors blown off against any halfway competent team. But can you really blame them? His defenders are dorky high school assistant coaches, from losing programs (who think they have it all figured out). Truth is the touch themselves to the memory of Blo showing up to talk to them for 3 minutes at a camp they forked over money to go to.

 

[Anon1675909812]

Bo literally turned down offer for more recruiting staff, and Eichorst tripled the recruiting budget Osborne gave Bo. Let’s not lie to cover up for a coach who (out of spite, because he was a petulant child) put his team on self-induced probation almost every year

Not an over the top Bo fan by any means. I still stand behind my statement that the upper management from Bill Byrne to Steve Peterson to Eichorst to the chancellor and even Tom himself has put the Football program behind the 8 ball
I just hope that Trev Albert's can fix this

 

[SuperBigFan]

Because he didn’t care. He was trying to get any other job for multiple years. That doesn’t stop the dorks from pining for the guy who got his doors blown off against any halfway competent team. But can you really blame them? His defenders are dorky high school assistant coaches, from losing programs (who think they have it all figured out). Truth is the touch themselves to the memory of Blo showing up to talk to them for 3 minutes at a camp they forked over money to go to.

1. All the coaches hate us, we annoy them. It is okay.
2. Bo can't scare you anymore
3. You no longer have to pretend you are "embarrassed" by Bo (you never were)
4. Bo still has at least 2 dudes in the NFL making crazy jack, so the "he doesn't recruit" thing just is not real.

Doors blown off? 9-10 wins every year and I think a 1/2 finish in the division every year but one?

oh and looking for another job, who cares, we all do that.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

1. All the coaches hate us, we annoy them. It is okay.
2. Bo can't scare you anymore
3. You no longer have to pretend you are "embarrassed" by Bo (you never were)
4. Bo still has at least 2 dudes in the NFL making crazy jack, so the "he doesn't recruit" thing just is not real.

Doors blown off? 9-10 wins every year and I think a 1/2 finish in the division every year but one?

oh and looking for another job, who cares, we all do that.

Ears burning? You’re up early. Get to the bars, bro!

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Good list, just gotta take Ohio State off of it.
I cant remember when they made a bad hire to be honest.

Their definition of a "bad hire" was John Cooper who had a .715 winning % shared 3 conference titles. But was 2-10-1 vs Michigan.

That's considered a bad hire at Tosu..

Lol

Unfortunately, that is why tOSU will continue to be looked at as a perennial powerhouse and NU will be looked at as a program that really had a good run 50 years ago.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Ears burning? You’re up early. Get to the bars, bro!

No, ears were not burning, the little notification thing informed me of a reply.

And I am always up early and we are going to the bars in Lincoln, just trying to figure out when to head out!

 

[dinglefritz]

Frank was set up to fail
No help on assistant coaches from Coach Tom
AD didn't do a very good job on the next hire well Duh
Bo was not the right choice as his anger and lack of effort on recruiting

Riley was a failure as hiring a 50% coach guess what he finished 50% then Scott and everyone thought Scott would work out
13 I think coach of the year awards.
So nothing was setup worth a damn it has nothing to do with Nebraska it has to do with failure of leadership pure and simple

Frank wouldn’t accept help from Tom. Fact

 

[dinglefritz]

When you fail to plan you plan to fail. Frost said he would combine the old with the new, he abandoned that plan before before the end of his first year. He only talks in coach speak and doesn’t answer any hard questions.. Like the three coaches before him he takes no responsibility for player development. If there was any incentive for his assistants to show improvement at player level they would all be beating up Duval for better player development It’s sickening how Osborne’s offensive lines were all 6 ft 2 and 260 on a good day and you wouldn’t take one of Frosts 300 pounders to play on those teams. When Trev Alberts and this administration let’s them loose with no accountability it infects the other sports, look at the men’s sports now.

Not so fast. Tom had plenty of 6’5” 300 pounders in his lines