Yes, you clearly don’t know the history.While high-pressure fire hoses were a hallmark of the 1963 Birmingham Campaign, the March 7, 1965, "Bloody Sunday" march in Selma, Alabama, was primarily characterized by law enforcement's use of tear gas, nightsticks, and bullwhips. [1, 2]
During that era, Alabama was dominated by the Democratic Party, and the officials responsible for the violence against marchers were Democrats who supported racial segregation: [1, 2]
- Governor George Wallace: A prominent segregationist Democrat who ordered state troopers to use "whatever measures are necessary" to stop the march. [1, 2]
- Sheriff Jim Clark: The Democratic sheriff of Dallas County whose volunteer "posse" and deputies joined state troopers in the violent assault at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. [1, 2, 3, 4]
- Commissioner Bull Connor: While often conflated with Selma, Connor was the Democratic Public Safety Commissioner in Birmingham who famously ordered the use of fire hoses and police dogs against protesters in 1963. [1, 2]
He was a Dem, but so was the guy that sent in the National Guard to stop the nonsense.Please explain to us how Governor George Wallace was not a Democrat....
No. A polarization. It’s all Trump or nothing for GOP. George W Bush would be a rino in today’s GOP.Are we currently experiencing a party swap?
I think that is too overly simplistic. I think a lot of millennial and younger conservatives are embracing a populist agenda that historically was the Democrats territory. Meanwhile the democrats have become the party of the elite to some extent.No. A polarization. It’s all Trump or nothing for GOP. George W Bush would be a rino in today’s GOP.
Now do Kent State.While high-pressure fire hoses were a hallmark of the 1963 Birmingham Campaign, the March 7, 1965, "Bloody Sunday" march in Selma, Alabama, was primarily characterized by law enforcement's use of tear gas, nightsticks, and bullwhips. [1, 2]
During that era, Alabama was dominated by the Democratic Party, and the officials responsible for the violence against marchers were Democrats who supported racial segregation: [1, 2]
- Governor George Wallace: A prominent segregationist Democrat who ordered state troopers to use "whatever measures are necessary" to stop the march. [1, 2]
- Sheriff Jim Clark: The Democratic sheriff of Dallas County whose volunteer "posse" and deputies joined state troopers in the violent assault at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. [1, 2, 3, 4]
- Commissioner Bull Connor: While often conflated with Selma, Connor was the Democratic Public Safety Commissioner in Birmingham who famously ordered the use of fire hoses and police dogs against protesters in 1963. [1, 2]
There was three days of rock throwing at national guardsman and an ROTC building was burned down. The shooting occurred maybe 5 or 10 minutes after there was a lull in the rock throwing. I believe the blanket shooting at basically a hill full of wandering students was wrong, but there was substantial provocation. What the rioters did at Kent State was much worse than what happened on j6. 5 years after the event, a jury found the Governor and the other defendants not liable. The case was appealed and there was a settlement of about $670,000 with the statement of regret but no admission of liability.Now do Kent State.
I never heard that. Where did you get the summary?There was three days of rock throwing at national guardsman and an ROTC building was burned down. The shooting occurred maybe 5 or 10 minutes after there was a lull in the rock throwing. I believe the blanket shooting at basically a hill full of wandering students was wrong, but there was substantial provocation. What the rioters did at Kent State was much worse than what happened on j6. 5 years after the event, a jury found the Governor and the other defendants not liable. The case was appealed and there was a settlement of about $670,000 with the statement of regret but no admission of liability.
I grew up in Northeast Ohio and my father got a football scholarship to Kent state. I was aware of what was going on and in particular the burning down of the ROTC building. I got the facts from chat gpt regarding the Rock throwing. Anybody is welcome to challenge those because sometimes chat GPT is wrong. From what I can gather maybe one to three people were seriously injured on January 6th. You are welcome to present contrary facts. According to chat GPT, One national guardsman who was hit by a rock needed medical treatment. The idea that the vice president was seriously physically threatened is ridiculous. It was obviously hyperpole by the rioters/protesters.I never heard that. Where did you get the summary?
“much worse than what happened on j6.”
Malarky!!! Are you a bozo? How many guardsmen were hospitalized or went out on disability?
There were hundreds of injured on January 6 and who knows the monetary damages. The life of a sitting Vice President was publicly threatened.
Wallace and his supporters were virtually ALL Democrats. No doubt about that. And all of their descendants are Republicans. It's really humorous to watch MAGAts essentially disowning their forbears. "That wasn't my dad wearing that pointy white hood with the eye cutouts! He was a Democrat!"Please explain to us how Governor George Wallace was not a Democrat....
You going to the game next Friday night Bear?Ahh, the irony ...
If throwing rocks is all it takes for the NG to open fire… you have to be foooggging crazy.I grew up in Northeast Ohio and my father got a football scholarship to Kent state. I was aware of what was going on and in particular the burning down of the ROTC building. I got the facts from chat gpt regarding the Rock throwing. Anybody is welcome to challenge those because sometimes chat GPT is wrong. From what I can gather maybe one to three people were seriously injured on January 6th. You are welcome to present contrary facts. According to chat GPT, One national guardsman who was hit by a rock needed medical treatment. The idea that the vice president was seriously physically threatened is ridiculous. It was obviously hyperpole by the rioters/protesters.
Later edit.A Wikipedia entry called Kent State shootings confirms what I've stated. The facts were worse in that students were throwing beer bottles at Kent police officers and injured five of them in addition to the rock throwing.
You are an idiot. How many buildings were burned down and how many shots were fired in Washington DC.If throwing rocks is all it takes for the NG to open fire… you have to be foooggging crazy.
One or two people injured on Jan 6? You are not serious.
A gallows was built out for Pence. You are not a serious poster.
Don’t understand how you are this sheltered from real events. Are you 15 years old?
Zzzz Child.You are an idiot. How many buildings were burned down and how many shots were fired in Washington DC.
It was more than throwing rocks. It was arson. It was strong rumors of more arson and more attacks. 3 days of riotous chaos. Check out the Wikipedia article if you want to be mildly knowledgeable about what happened at Kent state.
You don't even know the difference between a symbolic gallows and a real one. Go ahead and name the seriously injured police officers. I went through this before with someone else and it came up with one or two. Certainly, no more than 10.
It is unapologetically stupid people like you on the left that keeps the country from uniting.
Nope….but I definitely remember the multiple times that nutjob libtards tried killing him. Lots of mental illness on the left & unfortunately it’s getting worse.You mean when he got fake shot?
Zzzz Child.
It was rock throwing, arson, and rumors of more. Are you gonna stand up and say that justified Nat G opening fire on a group of college students? Wow. Don’t let your kids go to university, cause they may be in danger according to your standards.
You seem OK with a strange perception of responsibilities. There is a separation of responsibilities set out in the constitution. The US militarily cannot be involved in domestic events or affairs. It is not allowed except under extreme events. Who allowed the Ohio NG to open fire on kids?
If that is so easy to prove go ahead and provide your substantiation.Meanwhile, if you have been fooled into believing that less than 10 people were seriously injured on Jan 6, please admit yourself to a clinic. You are insane.
Unreal.
If you were able to read on the level of a fourth grader, you would have noticed that I previously said that notwithstanding the very provocative and dangerous things that happened, the shooting was not justified because the national guard was not in immediate danger at the time they shot into the students. In terms of your question, as to who allowed the national guard to fire, it was governor James Rhodes and the federal courts said it was an open question whether or not the shooting was justified and allowed the matter to go to trial.Zzzz Child.
It was rock throwing, arson, and rumors of more. Are you gonna stand up and say that justified Nat G opening fire on a group of college students? Wow. Don’t let your kids go to university, cause they may be in danger according to your standards.
You seem OK with a strange perception of responsibilities. There is a separation of responsibilities set out in the constitution. The US militarily cannot be involved in domestic events or affairs. It is not allowed except under extreme events. Who allowed the Ohio NG to open fire on kids?
I'm thinking about it, Piggy. A few seasons ago, I would have steered well clear of a game like this, but Clemson football has fallen off a bit. I still think the Tigers will win, as Cal does not have an abundance of physicality or depth on the OL and DL, and is always capable of executing faceplants in meaningful games. But Clemson is on the road, and you just never know. If I was Dabo, I would be running the ball continually while on offense and trying to exert maximum pressure on Sagapolutele while on defense.You going to the game next Friday night Bear?
That's one hell of a scar he's sportin' from getting shot in the face. LULZ ...Nope….but I definitely remember the multiple times that nutjob libtards tried killing him. Lots of mental illness on the left & unfortunately it’s getting worse.
LULZ about a sitting President getting shot. Mental illness is definitely an issue with you libtards.That's one hell of a scar he's sportin' from getting shot in the face. LULZ ...
Where's the scar?LULZ about a sitting President getting shot. Mental illness is definitely an issue with you libtards.
Our players leave Wednesday morning. The time lag will be real. Our new qb has someI'm thinking about it, Piggy. A few seasons ago, I would have steered well clear of a game like this, but Clemson football has fallen off a bit. I still think the Tigers will win, as Cal does not have an abundance of physicality or depth on the OL and DL, and is always capable of executing faceplants in meaningful games. But Clemson is on the road, and you just never know. If I was Dabo, I would be running the ball continually while on offense and trying to exert maximum pressure on Sagapolutele while on defense.
Concessions are hoping soYou going to the game next Friday night Bear?
Did he do that or did the POTUS?He was a Dem, but so was the guy that sent in the National Guard to stop the nonsense.
The elite have been and will always be in both party's. I call them rinos and dinos. The dinos are currently fighting the communist and socialist in the Democrat Party...I think that is too overly simplistic. I think a lot of millennial and younger conservatives are embracing a populist agenda that historically was the Democrats territory. Meanwhile the democrats have become the party of the elite to some extent.
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