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Does May have a connection with Michigan other than being an assistant at E. Michigan 20 years ago? Honest question. Not sure why he’s being written off as impossible to get.
It has more to do with what Michigan has. Michigan has the richest alumni in the country and they open their books. Michigan could be the next great basketball power. No one with a brain would leave Michigan while it’s humming. But May is a Midwest guy. Wouldn’t be surprised if someday he doesn’t end up in Indiana if something goes wrong at Michigan.
 
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Auburn is a doormat and did not allocate much for basketball at all. They are one of the worst historal basketball program in all of the power 5 in history.

Lon Kruger took Florida to a final four four in 1994 lol. UConn didn’t even come a bigeast team until the 1980’s and since then have been dominant. What the hell does this have to do with anything we’re talking about? Nothing.

This is utter nonsense to compare any of this to what Pearl was able to to at 2 programs with very little success and he was there less than a decade. Give Bruce Pearl Tennessee from 1985 - 2020 and they have banners. Pearls rise and issues didn’t allow him to be able to win to those levels and he still almost did. Nothing you’re saying makes any sense. Florida is a coastal SEC program with insane resources and as we’re seeing now it’s not hard to win there. Auburn? Have you ever been to Auburn throughout the years and witnessed their basketball structure? I don’t think you have.

Indiana has yet to try to get back, they don’t seem interested. Have you seen their hires? They got gun shy as an academic institution after Sampson (who had he stayed would have won titles) and didn’t even run at Pearl who was the obvious choice. Those are just bad decisions. UCLA is the same, and ucla isn’t very attractive. They only had a decade of success really and it was due to cheating. I don’t even call them a blue blood at all. UCLA basketball isn’t even 5th in line in their own state. Great coaches aren’t attracted.

You’re throwing all of this in a vacuum and applying no context again. Try again.
I don’t see how anything you said is a reply to anything I said. You implied that Pearl would have been able to win a championship at a “blueblood”. My response was pointing out that being at a traditional blueblood doesn’t mean much with respect to winning a championship. I’d argue that non-bluebloods like UCONN, UF, and Villanova are better structured to win championships than Kansas, IU, and UCLA… all of whom are considered bluebloods. If you didn’t mean to say blueblood, then that’s a different argument. I’m just going by what you said.
 

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Would you be cool with Jai Lucas?
The best coach available right now is Josh Schertz at St Louis. He is about to make a big splash at a Power 4 school soon. I wish Kentucky was forward thinking enough to look at him seriously.
If Pope if fired and Mitch convinces Scott Drew to become our next coach, Kentucky will be passed by as a once great program.
 
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The best coach available right now is Josh Schertz at St Louis. He is about to make a big splash at a Power 4 school soon. I wish Kentucky was forward thinking enough to look at him seriously.
If Pope if fired and Mitch convinces Scott Drew to become our next coach, Kentucky will be passed by as a once great program.
Mitch won’t be hiring the next coach. He’s gone this time next year. I’m good with taking a big gamble on someone like Schertz personally. I think you can get much better value than someone who already has the resume we all want. Many times those guys aren’t available and if they are it’s probably not for good reason. I’ll keep checking that name though, since I’m less familiar than y’all.
 
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Call Rondo.
Easy as a layup.
Nobody is more knowledgable than him.
He is tapped in to the pros and kids.
And is a worker unlike Pope.
Not to mention he has charisma.
So we complain for a year and a half about Pope’s coaching resume and then hire someone with literally no head coaching experience? Gee whiz
 

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I don't disagree. But the million dollar question is, will this fan base give a young coach time and a few learning years to become a Dan Hurley. People like Chris Adams (YouTuber cal lover) will use fans emotions to turn the fan base on x coach! If like a Lucas would come and go to the sweet 16 his first year,then struggle his 2nd year. Would he get a 3rd? I just think we need to be careful,and be sure get the next hire right!
From an outsider's perspective, UK should not be going after Bruce Pearl... a guy who has coached for a very long time but not able to win the championship. UK should either be trying to poach a proven national championship winner or trying to find their own version of the next Dan Hurley or Todd Golden. Younger fiery coaches that hate losing.
 
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I don't disagree. But the million dollar question is, will this fan base give a young coach time and a few learning years to become a Dan Hurley. People like Chris Adams (YouTuber cal lover) will use fans emotions to turn the fan base on x coach! If like a Lucas would come and go to the sweet 16 his first year,then struggle his 2nd year. Would he get a 3rd? I just think we need to be careful,and be sure get the next hire right!
I can’t stand that Chris Adams guy. He reminds me of some of our fake fans who smile and seem giddy when we lose. F that guy.
 
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I don't disagree. But the million dollar question is, will this fan base give a young coach time and a few learning years to become a Dan Hurley.
You are spot on. I think the answer is that the AD has to have courage to make the decision and be willing to accept the consequences if they are wrong. It’s much easier to keep your job if Bruce Pearl fails than if you hire a young coach. UF was in that boat and took gambles on a young Billy Donovan and later Todd Golden that paid off. UCONN similar with Hurley. I’d argue that UVA and Villanova did similar. Gotta stop recycling the old coaches who didn’t win.

Will the UK fanbase be patient? I don’t know, but looking at Pope, I have doubts. I think he deserves another year considering all the injuries.
 
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I can’t stand that Chris Adams guy. He reminds me of some of our fake fans who smile and seem giddy when we lose. F that guy.
I'm in the camp you don't move on from pope, unless you know you get a home run hire. I was thinking when Hurley turned us down, that Pearl would be the floor. And would have loved/support him. To pivot now, I'm not sure. I'd rather go another year, get money boosters together ect and negotiate a buyout with pope, so we can go offer a mega contract to May or Lloyd ect. Which might be difficult this year unless they flameout early in the tournament!
What I don't want is another mid coach and have a fan base turn on him before he can get things rolling! That's how you become IU IMO!
 

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Pope is the next Hurley. Book it. "He sucked at Uconn his first 2 years. So just hold onto Pope. He could be the next Hurley".

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That's why I can't ignore everythihng you say, since you are a shameless liar. I never said he could be the next Hurley, I said people like you would have FIRED him after two years at UCONN by your very own rules of keeping a job. Exposing your hypocrisy makes you angry, so you turn to lies.

But your goal of making UK fans look bad is a smashing success since you sit here all day (when you aren't looking for a trainwreck on one of the 2 million other boards that you visit.) Per your own words, whenever there is a trainwreck, you are right there to enjoy it. Weak and pitiful. Pretty sure that nobody you mocked said that, either.

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RunninRichie

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That's why I can't ignore everythihng you say, since you are a shameless liar. I never said he could be the next Hurley, I said people like you would have FIRED him after two years at UCONN by your very own rules of keeping a job. Exposing your hypocrisy makes you angry, so you turn to lies.

But your goal of making UK fans look bad is a smashing success since you sit here all day (when you aren't looking for a trainwreck one of the 2 million other boards that you visit.) Per your own words, whenever there is a trainwreck, you are right there to enjoy it. Weak and pitiful.
If only you were this upset when Hogan turned hollywood.
 

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Please stop with the Bruce Pearl ****. I’m all for asking Pope to step down. But we can do better than Cal lite. Don’t forget this is the guy who stepped down at the last possible minute in order to basically give Auburn no choice but to promote his son. They’re in a worse spot program wise than we are except their fans really don’t care. Along with all the other shady **** he’s done throughout his career. Fire or force Mitch out and hire an AD who knows competitive sports and who can come up with real answers.
Pearl would kick so much *** here. He would embrace this place better than anyone and he’d be a rockstar to this fanbase
 
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Pearl would kick so much *** here. He would embrace this place better than anyone and he’d be a rockstar to this fanbase
season 7 episode 23 GIF by SpongeBob SquarePants

But she might spend all of the NIL funds on cosmetics.
 

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Pearl would kick so much *** here. He would embrace this place better than anyone and he’d be a rockstar to this fanbase
You just posted that it's a waste of time to think Pope won't get three years. It's also an utter waste of time to discuss Pearl as that dirbag will never get a sniff here (unless you hire Ron Jurich as AD, lol). Oats an Pearl. Hard to believe anyone that wants either of them ever went to UK and has any amount of pride in the school.
 
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Bruce Pearl made 2 final fours in the last 7 years at Auburn. Let's see what he does with the UK brand.
He is going into politics man, he doesn’t want to coach anymore I don’t think honestly. We need to hire May, Grant McCastland, TJ Otzelburger, Golden, etc.. some may not come, but they are primed for many years of great basketball and we have to go big. Even Bucky at TAM looks to have a bright future. Give him some NBA talent and that would be fun.
 
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Call Rondo.
Easy as a layup.
Nobody is more knowledgable than him.
He is tapped in to the pros and kids.
And is a worker unlike Pope.
Not to mention he has charisma.
Rondo has not even coached a middle school to a title, he is notoriously hard to get along with. I don’t think his personality is close to a fit for an elite head coach in college.
 
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Hurley was never a candidate here. Never offered, or even talked to. He’s a loose cannon, that wouldn’t be good here at all. Great coach, but he’s exactly where he needs to be.

Drew was talked to, but, never showed an interest.

Lot of better options.
 

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What makes me wonder is whether the Kentucky brand is what BBN assumes it is nowadays, when you have Kentucky-born players leave the program, like many think Johnson and Noah might ... or should. ?????
This isn't the University of Noah or Johnson. Nor is it necessarily the University of Kentucky-borns.

With that attitude we should have kept Dante Allen.

Just because you are from Kentucky does not entitle you to a spot on the team. You have to EARN it.
 

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It has more to do with what Michigan has. Michigan has the richest alumni in the country and they open their books. Michigan could be the next great basketball power. No one with a brain would leave Michigan while it’s humming. But May is a Midwest guy. Wouldn’t be surprised if someday he doesn’t end up in Indiana if something goes wrong at Michigan.
This.

Notice who's succeeding right now.

Duke (extremely rich alumnis and a HUGE endowment)- solid coach
Michigan (Richest Public School in America) - seeming rising star coach

What's infuriating is we have nearly FOUR TIMES the endowment size of UCONN. And we aren't getting it done.


Mitch effed us bad instead of firing Cal and going after a dude like May. Or making a call to Lloyd.

Mitch has GOT TO GO. And so does Pope.

Get a MODERN AD in here.

Or we will be the next IU (and not in a good way on the football side)
 
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This.

Notice who's succeeding right now.

Duke (extremely rich alumnis and a HUGE endowment)- solid coach
Michigan (Richest Public School in America) - seeming rising star coach

What's infuriating is we have nearly FOUR TIMES the endowment size of UCONN. And we aren't getting it done.


Mitch effed us bad instead of firing Cal and going after a dude like May. Or making a call to Lloyd.

Mitch has GOT TO GO. And so does Pope.

Get a MODERN AD in here.

Or we will be the next IU (and not in a good way on the football side)
Mitch is out in July at least.
 

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I hope there are coaches, up and coming, or, with highly successful resumes that are being vetted right now. It is obvious that Pope is not the guy. I agree with Runnin Richie on almost everything but not, Bruce Pearl. Pearl has been a great coach but now is the time to do even better. It is important that Barnhart NOT be the one that determines our next coach.
 

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I agree with you, but it’s all about the perception.

ESPN will run numerous talks on how we fired a coach in year 2 with a blah blah record vs the top 25, swept UT twice, beat Calipari, and now we’re lunatics. The goal will be to make us look nuts, making anyone nervous to come here.

Unless the wheels completely come off, we’re going to waste another year.
If a wrong or bad decision is made, we may be bad or worse for much longer than another year. We just can't be foolish enough to allow Barnhart to hire another basketball coach.
 

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"I never went to UK for a single minute but dang it I deserve a championship because I watch it on this here TV. Oats, Pearl, anything just win! I never went there and don't care."

The very defintion of a person that doesn't deserve shat.
 

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Idk who the best fit as a coach would be here, I’d just like to see our team back to being elite again.
 

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This isn't the University of Noah or Johnson. Nor is it necessarily the University of Kentucky-borns.

With that attitude we should have kept Dante Allen.

Just because you are from Kentucky does not entitle you to a spot on the team. You have to EARN it.
We really need Noah to start knocking down threes.
 
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It has more to do with what Michigan has. Michigan has the richest alumni in the country and they open their books. Michigan could be the next great basketball power. No one with a brain would leave Michigan while it’s humming. But May is a Midwest guy. Wouldn’t be surprised if someday he doesn’t end up in Indiana if something goes wrong at Michigan.
I have seen it said in different places that May really really wanted that Michigan job. That it’s the only job he really wanted. And you’re right, Michigan is a sleeping giant in basketball always has been. Right now it seems they really want to be great. It’s not that UK isn’t a better job, and Michigan people are way more football oriented so it’ll never be UK, but Michigan actually does like basketball far more than an Alabama type. They like college basketball and they already have great history. I always assume UK can get a lot of the guys they want, May and Michigan is actually one I don’t think will happen for several factors. I don’t know why May wanted it so bad but apparently he did. Not that I wouldn’t backchannel, could be wrong and the Kentucky name is too strong to turn down. But I think May is one of the ones that might just be unreachable. And I rarely say that.
 

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"I never went to UK for a single minute but dang it I deserve a championship because I watch it on this here TV. Oats, Pearl, anything just win! I never went there and don't care."

The very defintion of a person that doesn't deserve shat.
What does going to UK have anything to do with it? I know UK fans that go back 100 years in their family and they weren’t able to go to college at all much less UK. I was a UK die hard long before I ever went to UK. I was a bigger fan than one of my family members who went himself. Honest question, did you go to UK? And what does that have to do with it?
 
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Kenny Payne didn’t make it over two years, why? Because it was obvious he wasn’t the one. I will agree it’s not probable for a coach to get fired after two years but it’s happened before. The recruiting piece has hurt him more than the in game and record. If you cant get players at a high level here, you can’t coach here.
Kenny Payne went 4-28 then 8-24. Terrible comparison
 
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It’s simple, we have the worst AD in sports. He overpaid for Stoops and he overpaid for Cal and he overpaid for Pope.

UK is in a budget crisis and still owes Stoops like $30mil. They aren’t going to pay Pope $25mil to leave. Remember he got another 5.5mil for making the sweet 16 last year.

Does he deserve it, no. Will he be back 100%
Which is a travesty.

Barney has overseen this debacle. Responsible for the destruction of OUR program. Not his. Ours. Thanks for the support, Eli... :mad:
 

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I have seen it said in different places that May really really wanted that Michigan job. That it’s the only job he really wanted. And you’re right, Michigan is a sleeping giant in basketball always has been. Right now it seems they really want to be great. It’s not that UK isn’t a better job, and Michigan people are way more football oriented so it’ll never be UK, but Michigan actually does like basketball far more than an Alabama type. They like college basketball and they already have great history. I always assume UK can get a lot of the guys they want, May and Michigan is actually one I don’t think will happen for several factors. I don’t know why May wanted it so bad but apparently he did. Not that I wouldn’t backchannel, could be wrong and the Kentucky name is too strong to turn down. But I think May is one of the ones that might just be unreachable. And I rarely say that.
May has been enfatuated with the alure of Michigan as a top - or the top - public school in the nation year after year. The alumni base is something he spoke about when he took the job. He can recruit to the great state university (Izzo is not a happy guy about how things seem to be turning), with a great NIL setting and a setting in B1G. Living up here, I know the Michigan alum are thrilled to have him and the feeling is mutual. He'd be a great get for UK, but you're right. He will stay put I believe.
 
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