Some interesting College Baseball changes coming..

[57stratdawg]

Sounds like the minimum 25% scholarship rule is likely dead. Also, the number of players allowed to receive financial aid is currently capped at 27. That's could change to a full 35.

Host team will not have to change dug outs in regional play going forward.

 

[57stratdawg]

Not sure how I feel about the 25% rule. I think that helps MSU more than hurts.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Count me as a fan of these changes if they see fruition.

 

[8dog]

Yeah i think the rule helps us. All the schools with more a ademic money have to spendbaseball money on players they wouldnt normally have to.

 

[57stratdawg]

Right. It helps smaller schools more than SEC schools. Problem is, our scholarship/academic situation puts us at the bottom looking up to most of our peers.

 

[Old Fart Dawg]

Right. It helps smaller schools more than SEC schools. Problem is, our scholarship/academic situation puts us at the bottom looking up to most of our peers.

I have never understood this. Can you give me the nickel tour

 

[Todd4State]

I have never understood this. Can you give me the nickel tour

I believe he is referring to Vandy's "Hardship" scholarships and in state grants like the Hope Scholarship in Georgia.

 

[Todd4State]

Right. It helps smaller schools more than SEC schools. Problem is, our scholarship/academic situation puts us at the bottom looking up to most of our peers.

It definitely helps MSU because it gives us a lot more flexibility with how we distribute our scholarship money. Believe it or not a lot of our players are getting academic scholarship money to help supplement their baseball scholarship money. Under Cohen that was one of the big things he used to look for in our recruits and I imagine that will continue under Cannizaro. That helps us to make up for the disadavantages that we face but it makes recruiting a little trickier.

 

[goodknight]

Never understood how UGA is not a power in the SEC. The lottery funded scholarships are available to all students who have have 2 different gpa's out of high school. One pays 80% of tuition the other 100% of tuition to the public universities. We have greatly benefited from them! Made it much easier with 2 in school.

 

[patdog]

Georgia is a strange school. They simply don't care at all about any sport other than football or some random women's sport like gymnastics. Auburn's the same way.

 

[8dog]

Ive always wanted to hear cohens thoughts on this. But it just seems like we now face an even better possibility that we want a MS kid lsu wants and they now offer him a full ride vs our 40% or so.

 

[8dog]

Whats strange with georgia though is you dont even have to care. Crowds and facilities dont win college baseball. Just find some really good coaches and pay them reasonably. Which it looked like they dis with stricklin. And they still struggle

perno looked like he got it but then the wheels inexplicably fell off

 

[engie]

First steps toward raising the 11.7 IMO...

 

[Todd4State]

You still have to have some level of commitment though.

 

[patdog]

I doubt 11.7 ever changes. The NCAA hates college baseball.

 

[coach66]

It needs to start hating college basketball like the rest of us**

nm

 

[wpmusm]

I tend to agree. A lot of very small schools don't even meet the 11.5 mark now. Why would you raise that number to something like 15 if some schools don't do 11.5?

 

[8dog]

Like what? Ucla and fullerton have gotten by on talent base alone. Oregon state turned into a national power from nothing. Florida hasnt given a rip about baseball. But they got a good coach in a talent rich area

 

[wpmusm]

Seems to me that getting rid of the 25% minimum will help SEC/Big12/PAC schools and to a lesser extent, schools like Tulane, USM, ECU, etc.

For example, you might have a situation where someone like a Presbyterian or USC Upstate offers a player 25-30% vs walking on at Clemson or South Carolina. So now CU/USC can offer 10-15% which could maybe sway a guy.

On a somewhat smaller scale, you could have Central Arkansas or Jacksonville State offering 40% to a guy vs Tulane or USM offering nothing. With this rule change, Tulane/USM could offer 15-20% and maybe steal a guy that would rather play CUSA/AAC ball over Southland/OVC for a little less money.

Someone correct me if I'm off here, but this is how I see it.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

First steps toward raising the 11.7 IMO...

This was my thought process as well. But I don't know all the ins & outs on these things like many of y'all do.

 

[57stratdawg]

The only way it goes past 11.7 is if we split the programs somehow. That feels like where college sports is heading anyway.

 

[57stratdawg]

That's the general rule, but now it means a kid from Shreveport could cost LSU 0.0 scholarships and cost MSU 0.5.

Atleast if everyone is having to use .25 it helps close our gap some.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

will any of it make more action... you know... more like a sport?

 

[wpmusm]

Kendall Rogers has been an advocate for a split in D1 when it comes to baseball. My guess is he wants to take the programs/conferences that comply with the COA and the 11.7 (P5 + CUSA/AAC/SB/BW and maybe WCC/SoCon/Southland) and put them in the 1st tier. Then all the other schools go into the 2nd tier.

 

[DAWG61]

Whats strange with georgia though is you dont even have to care. Crowds and facilities dont win college baseball. Just find some really good coaches and pay them reasonably. Which it looked like they dis with stricklin. And they still struggle

perno looked like he got it but then the wheels inexplicably fell off

Georgia Tech has a decent baseball history idk what UGA's problem is