so, there's a thread on NAFOOM....

[Drebin]

...that is talking about the evidence the NCAA has from Leo Lewis that was mentioned in their response released last week. That would be the snapchat video of the Ole Miss gear and the business card from the lady at Rebel Rags.

So, the "accusation" is that this is new evidence that the NCAA has just released and it was staged or created after the NOA.

Umm, not that you want my opinion, but that's not how it works. This was all a part of the supporting evidence in the second NOA. Just because this is the first time you've heard of it doesn't mean it's a new development. Your people are releasing this stuff and only telling you enough to keep you on the hook. When will you guys learn that your school mouthpieces are feeding you lines of horseshit? You've got Bjork and Freeze with a demonstrated, verifiable record of lying over and over for the last 18 months. I mean, it's on the record. You have Yancy and Chuck with the constant stream of ******** - "we are sitting on this info," "we have been told," "the truth will come out," blah, blah, blah. Use your brains...with this stream of bad news that keeps hitting your school....anything that would be considered good for you would not be held back at this point. Hell, y'all are even trumping the Nutt dismissal as good news, when in fact, it's the exact opposite of that. If there was an incriminating tape of Leo, or some smoking gun vindicating Terry Warren, or Barney, or the John Doe lawyer, or anything like that, it would be on the front page of the Clarion Ledger alongside a picture of Hugh Killaburger with an erection.

Let me also add, I can't believe there are people walking this earth that pay for info from Chuck and Yancy. I mean, those are the same type of people who fall for Nigerian email schemes. The next time those guys are right about anything will be the first time.

With apologies to Rutherford B. Hayes, we should start a second list...things that Ole Miss fans claim as truth (based on **** Yancy or someone at Ole Miss has said) that has not been verified by anyone as truth, and in many cases has been proven false:

- Leo Lewis got 10k from State.
- This new evidence is staged.
- MSU conspired with the NCAA.
- Leo and Kobe were "coached" by the NCAA investigators
- NCAA investigator Sheridan is a racist


I'm gonna stop there and let others add to the list.

 

[FlotownDawg]

Leo, Kobe and Tunsil's stepdad were just marionettes with Dan Mullen and Pat Forde pulling the strings.

 

[11thEagleFan]

-9 over 3
- "There is no investigation."
-Exemplary cooperation.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

That board is still active?

Well I'll be damn. I thought it was no more.

 

[tatedog]

I'm not going to dismiss these accusations prematurely. If we should take anyone's advice on duplicity, cover ups, fake evidence, lying, and manipulation, it is Ole Miss mouthpieces'.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

the MSU Mayberry Mafia Rules the NCAA

om, resistance is FUTILE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Leo will recant
Depositions will start in two weeks (claimed 3 weeks ago by Yancy)

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Wolken hates Ole Miss because of Christian Environment

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

...that is talking about the evidence the NCAA has from Leo Lewis that was mentioned in their response released last week. That would be the snapchat video of the Ole Miss gear and the business card from the lady at Rebel Rags.

So, the "accusation" is that this is new evidence that the NCAA has just released and it was staged or created after the NOA.

Umm, not that you want my opinion, but that's not how it works. This was all a part of the supporting evidence in the second NOA. Just because this is the first time you've heard of it doesn't mean it's a new development. Your people are releasing this stuff and only telling you enough to keep you on the hook. When will you guys learn that your school mouthpieces are feeding you lines of horseshit? You've got Bjork and Freeze with a demonstrated, verifiable record of lying over and over for the last 18 months. I mean, it's on the record. You have Yancy and Chuck with the constant stream of ******** - "we are sitting on this info," "we have been told," "the truth will come out," blah, blah, blah. Use your brains...with this stream of bad news that keeps hitting your school....anything that would be considered good for you would not be held back at this point. Hell, y'all are even trumping the Nutt dismissal as good news, when in fact, it's the exact opposite of that. If there was an incriminating tape of Leo, or some smoking gun vindicating Terry Warren, or Barney, or the John Doe lawyer, or anything like that, it would be on the front page of the Clarion Ledger alongside a picture of Hugh Killaburger with an erection.

Let me also add, I can't believe there are people walking this earth that pay for info from Chuck and Yancy. I mean, those are the same type of people who fall for Nigerian email schemes. The next time those guys are right about anything will be the first time.

With apologies to Rutherford B. Hayes, we should start a second list...things that Ole Miss fans claim as truth (based on **** Yancy or someone at Ole Miss has said) that has not been verified by anyone as truth, and in many cases has been proven false:

- Leo Lewis got 10k from State.
- This new evidence is staged.
- MSU conspired with the NCAA.
- Leo and Kobe were "coached" by the NCAA investigators
- NCAA investigator Sheridan is a racist


I'm gonna stop there and let others add to the list.

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[HamSammich]

Well, they probably got confused... remember when there was "the recording" of Leo's Mom asking for money..... it was really "a recording" of Leo getting free ****.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I saw a thread

on there recently where they were siting a post on the spirit board. Think about that for a second.

Nafoom went from an ok board to absolute ****. They've got nutjobs like zorak running the show.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

Where do you think my list comes from?? When Yancy says "hearing", I just add it to the list. The only thing he's been right about is he named the Committee's Sept 11 date about 5 days before it was released to the public.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

#theNeckwork

 

[Arloguthrie]

The NCAA's response to our response says the NCAA first received the video from __'s attorney on June 30, 2017 (pg 52-53), which is after our response and after the amended NOA. (I think it's referring to Kobe, fwiw, not Leo.) Now I have no idea when the NCAA received it, just going by when the NCAA says they received it.

 

[patdog]

Some of these people wouldn't believe they did anything wrong if they saw Hugh Freeze give a hooker $500 and point to which recruit to blow with their own eyes.

 

[Faustdog]

I think it's pretty obvious here that all of the allegations and evidence have been fabricated by the NCAA with help from the hunchback leghumper Dan Mullins. From the phone calls between Barney and Warren which spiked on recruiting weekends, to the phone calls and texts between John Doe, Leo, and Barney, to Leo's inexplicable knowledge of John Doe's paralegal and her husbands vehicles, to the fifteen violations the school admits to, it's all a part of the grandest of grand maroon conspiracies.

So yeah, there's probably some merit to the Nafoom theory that the NCAA manufactured a video of fake Rebel Rags loot. That makes way more sense than that video being of, you know, actual Rebel Rags loot.

Those Nafoom guys should get that info to Godfrey, asap. He's obviously the only media outside of Oxford not under the control of the Sankey/Templeton/Stricklin cabal.

 

[Shamoan]

Does anybody actually believe that prized recruit didn't receive illicit benefits while visiting a town that nearly literally worships the ground they walk on? Like....really?

 

[tatedog]

The NCAA's response to our response says the NCAA first received the video from __'s attorney on June 30, 2017 (pg 52-53), which is after our response and after the amended NOA. (I think it's referring to Kobe, fwiw, not Leo.) Now I have no idea when the NCAA received it, just going by when the NCAA says they received it.

I know when I get clothes as a gift I usually video tape them immediately just in case. This definitely seems odd.

 

[Original48]

This is all you really need to read to understand this group.

“I honestly don’t want to know everything people are saying,” Tuohy said. “It is a little bit head-in-the-sand, I’m not trying to deny that. But that’s what I choose." - Sean Tuohy

 

[bulldognation]

Ole Miss Fan: "But Hugh just wants to talk about the kids. Why do we HAVE to talk about how we got them? Man, I just wish we could just play football."

Head. In. The. Sand.

 

[tatedog]

“I honestly don’t want to know everything people are saying,” Tuohy said. “It is a little bit head-in-the-sand, I’m not trying to deny that. But that’s what I choose." - Sean Tuohy

What he wanted to say was "I'm better than you, and therefore I don't have to give a 17 about you or what you think." His superior manners prevented him from saying that. Sums up the Ole Miss point of view nicely.

 

[johnson86-1]

on there recently where they were siting a post on the spirit board. Think about that for a second.

Nafoom went from an ok board to absolute ****. They've got nutjobs like zorak running the show.

I'm sure this board would be the same way. If we were in their situation, would you (a) sit on this board and ***** and moan about how screwed we are or (b) check out for a while and focus on other things? Most sane people would do (b) or do (a) for a while and then (b).

For their sane fans, they've already done one of those two. All that's left are those people who are delusional with a sprinkling of people who are gluttons for punishment and a sprinkling of people who are there to talk about fashion and music and anything else not about sports. .

 

[mount lefroy]

Some of these people wouldn't believe they did anything wrong if they saw Hugh Freeze give a hooker $500 and point to which recruit to blow with their own eyes.

No. They believe it. But their job as loyal fans is to repeat what they are told to repeat. Maybe a smattering of nutjobs believe their innocence.

 

[KurtRambis4]

You obviously

weren't around here from 02-08....

 

[thatsbaseball]

I disagree...that board has never had over a hand full of "sane" fans and I'm not sure they would still be around the group that dominates that cluster 17 now regardless of the bear's plight.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Nafoom.com, just an echo chamber for mindlessly Gregorian chant style repeating the same lies that they were just told...by another Nafoomer. No outside information allowed. No independent thought. No realization of how isolated they are.

So basically, it's North Korea except with bow ties, cold chicken tenders, and Natty Light beer.

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[CochiseCowbell]

Don't sully Natty Light, like that.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Yeah, it is a cheap beer...but I had to resort to drinking it myself in College, buying a new computer crippled my beer funds for a couple of moths.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

Kyser you made me laugh.
I wanted to say that in actual words.
Too many ******** today use an acronym for such sentiments. Hell with em. Millenials.
And natty lite sucks. If on a budget for the love of Pete get Miller High Life ya pussies.

 

[Junction John]

It's called "Progressive Rebelation"

Progressive Revelation: the concept that the sections of the Bible that were written later contain a fuller revelation of God compared to the earlier sections. Christian teaching is that God has revealed Himself and His will through the Scriptures with an increasing clarity as more and more of the Scriptures were written. In other words, the later the writing the more information is given.

So Yancy, Chuck, Djork, et al are taking a page directly out of the Good Book. The ignorant masses of rebel nation can't handle the truth all at once. So the smart guys at the top have to spoon feed them just a little bad news at a time, until all is eventually revealed... and by then, it'll be too late for their poor souls.

 

[tcdog70]

Kyser you made me laugh.
I wanted to say that in actual words.
Too many ******** today use an acronym for such sentiments. Hell with em. Millenials.
And natty lite sucks. If on a budget for the love of Pete get Miller High Life ya pussies.

Miller Lite was invented to convince Women to drink Beer. "More taste -Less Filling". so who is the *****?

 

[johnson86-1]

weren't around here from 02-08....

That's a good point. My response would be:

(1) I think what they are looking at is worse than Croom.
(2) It was easier to be delusional in thinking that Croom could turn it around. We did have a good defense until Ellis Johnson left and it was kind of hard to believe just how incompetent he could be.
(3) As state fans, we are all sort of by definition gluttons for punishment, so the same logic doesn't apply to our boards.

But I'm not sure any of those or all of those together really refute your point. Based on what we did from 02-08 and the vitriol spewed at Lonnie Tinkle and Crooms, this board probably would be a lot more active and filled with hate for the administration and former coach(es) if we were looking at the same situation.

 

[KurtRambis4]

So what you're

saying is, you weren't here from 02-08.

 

[stateu1]

Miller Lite was invented to convince Women to drink Beer. "More taste -Less Filling". so who is the *****?

Read, "Miller High Life," dude.

 

[Dawgbite]

Read, "Miller High Life," dude.

Yeah, don't speak ill of the High Life. It's damn good beer.

 

[Drebin]

The NCAA's response to our response says the NCAA first received the video from __'s attorney on June 30, 2017 (pg 52-53), which is after our response and after the amended NOA. (I think it's referring to Kobe, fwiw, not Leo.) Now I have no idea when the NCAA received it, just going by when the NCAA says they received it.

Just so you know: the NCAA wouldn't have mentioned it in their response if neither they, nor Ole Miss were aware of its existence as part of the supporting evidence of the NOA.

 

[Arloguthrie]

Just so you know: the NCAA wouldn't have mentioned it in their response if neither they, nor Ole Miss were aware of its existence as part of the supporting evidence of the NOA.

Well, obviously, but you seem to have switched positions. You began this thread ridiculing the idea that the video is "new evidence." You said the video was "a part of the supporting evidence in the second NOA" and not "a new development." My point is only that, according to the NCAA, the video is new evidence, evidence acquired on June 30, 2017, after our response to the Amended/second NOA. So your initial post was incorrect.

Now as to when it was created and why the NCAA didn't have it prior to releasing the Amended NOA, I have no idea, but we'd be fools not to try to find out. (And yes, we're still going to get hammered b/c there are 8,000 other allegations against us, etc.)

 

[Drebin]

Well, obviously, but you seem to have switched positions. You began this thread ridiculing the idea that the video is "new evidence." You said the video was "a part of the supporting evidence in the second NOA" and not "a new development." My point is only that, according to the NCAA, the video is new evidence, evidence acquired on June 30, 2017, after our response to the Amended/second NOA. So your initial post was incorrect.

Now as to when it was created and why the NCAA didn't have it prior to releasing the Amended NOA, I have no idea, but we'd be fools not to try to find out. (And yes, we're still going to get hammered b/c there are 8,000 other allegations against us, etc.)

My point all along was that they video was part of the supporting evidence with the allegation. If the video was physically supplied to the NCAA after the fact, then we are arguing semantics. There is a ton of supporting evidence that goes with both NOAs. If the video wasn't part of the original allegation, then the NCAA wouldn't have referred to it in their response. I was addressing the accusation by Ole Miss fans that this video was staged after the fact. It's a stupid argument made by a desperate bunch still refusing to come to grips with the reality of the situation.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

uh... that was just Freeze helping someone with their utilites, then asking them to pay it forward. She just happened to be an RN and the recruit had just been pecker bitten by a venomous snake.

Total misunderstanding and how dare you insinuate lustful improprieties.

 

[tcdog70]

Read, "Miller High Life," dude.

My bad--the Champagne of Bottled beer--is Ok.