So, The Mueller report Is out....

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Yeah, I mean I’m reading what Barr said which was that the SC didn’t find sufficient evidence of collusion. But I’m reading some things voters should not like about this President and his campaign.

The Manafort strategy sessions and sharing polling data to figure out how to win the Midwest with Ukrainian and Russian intelligence for one.

The assertion that it was Russia that hacked the DNC and released the emails in a timely manner that benefited Trump.

The discussions about pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian foreign policy with members of the Trump campaign.

The multiple (MULTIPLE) instances of lying and destroying potential evidence by multiple Trump campaign affiliates. False testimony and actions SC stated prevented collection of evidence in the investigation.

And I really haven’t gotten very far into the report.
we all read and saw stuff about the hildebeast too......that's why she didn't get elected...don't let your lib socialist buddies fool you......not all conservatives are Trumpers (listening bru and coop?)...and despite what you may have heard we can read, think, and we walk on 2 feet not 4......and the conservatives, not the Trumpers will win again in 2020 because of the clown show being put forth by the dems
 

eerdoc

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I see a lot of deny, deflection and lies. Just another day around here among the Trumpers.
And the witch hunt continues. But, now we have the witches doing the hunting for anything they can destroy. Sad, sad how the distortion of simple words are made out to mean so much that was never contained within the original utterances.
 

moe

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Read it. I didn't see one instance where the Mueller probe was kept from completing its mission by anyone.
One small example would be Trump refusing to be interviewed in person but he likely would have just provided his "I don't recall" type answers like he did in written form. Who would have thought that a stable genius would have such a poor memory?
 

TarHeelEer

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One small example would be Trump refusing to be interviewed in person but he likely would have just provided his "I don't recall" type answers like he did in written form. Who would have thought that a stable genius would have such a poor memory?

Actually that's not an example. He provided everything he had to by law. A request to comply, not a subpoena, that is not fulfilled, is not obstruction.
 

moe

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And the witch hunt continues. But, now we have the witches doing the hunting for anything they can destroy. Sad, sad how the distortion of simple words are made out to mean so much that was never contained within the original utterances.
Thanks for the nonsense post. Using the Trump's words (witch hunt) to try to defend him, that is so sweet of you, a true devotee. There's is no need to distort anyone's words. Face it, Trump is a crook and you still support him, congrats.
 

moe

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Actually that's not an example. He provided everything he had to by law. A request to comply, not a subpoena, that is not fulfilled, is not obstruction.
Sure it is, you just don't like it. I didn't say failing to sit for an interview was obstruction lol. Trump was scared to sit for an interview and he didn't.
 

Boomboom521

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we all read and saw stuff about the hildebeast too......that's why she didn't get elected...don't let your lib socialist buddies fool you......not all conservatives are Trumpers (listening bru and coop?)...and despite what you may have heard we can read, think, and we walk on 2 feet not 4......and the conservatives, not the Trumpers will win again in 2020 because of the clown show being put forth by the dems
  1. I respect that, but currently I see a clown show that isn’t very conservative at all. Other than the bench, Trump has gone against conservative policy (or at least what I’ve known to be conservative policy).
  2. I guess it’s a fair thing to compare crimes alleged and committed by Clinton to the crimes alleged and committed by Trump. Although neither are in jail, both probably should be.
  3. There’s actually a part of me that is enjoying the diverse field in dem primary. I’ve never been a believer in absolutism. I think a Democratic Republic works best when all ideas are heard, and representatives compromise to find what works best.
  4. I’m not thrilled with any one candidate in the field right now.
  5. Trump has no integrity, maybe Clinton and Obama didn’t either. And I think, left or right, we need to strive to find representatives that have integrity first and foremost.
 

Keyser76

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Why even argue with donnies defenders on here? You just know they would have condoned all this **** if Obama was this inept, lol, if they are Nazis they are the Hogans heroes types! "I am so ******..." And it ain't like this report proved anything about Ol Don I didn't already assume, aside from the fact that he is even dimmer than I thought. He better be glad he had folks that ignored his demands!
 

wvu2007

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Why even argue with donnies defenders on here? You just know they would have condoned all this **** if Obama was this inept, lol, if they are Nazis they are the Hogans heroes types! "I am so ****ed..." And it ain't like this report proved anything about Ol Don I didn't already assume, aside from the fact that he is even dimmer than I thought. He better be glad he had folks that ignored his demands!

 

Keyser76

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  1. I respect that, but currently I see a clown show that isn’t very conservative at all. Other than the bench, Trump has gone against conservative policy (or at least what I’ve known to be conservative policy).
  2. I guess it’s a fair thing to compare crimes alleged and committed by Clinton to the crimes alleged and committed by Trump. Although neither are in jail, both probably should be.
  3. There’s actually a part of me that is enjoying the diverse field in dem primary. I’ve never been a believer in absolutism. I think a Democratic Republic works best when all ideas are heard, and representatives compromise to find what works best.
  4. I’m not thrilled with any one candidate in the field right now.
  5. Trump has no integrity, maybe Clinton and Obama didn’t either. And I think, left or right, we need to strive to find representatives that have integrity first and foremost.
They call a retired Grandmother silly little names and act like she was ever Leader of the free world, I'd say the derangement syndrome is with the folks still fuming about their hatred for her. But one things is for sure, she is ten times more intelligent than their clown.
 

wvu2007

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I don’t get this “you mad” stuff. People are fvcking toons these days.

You are mad also. That is why you have to resort to making stuff up. You, keyser, country and gay bama all look really stupid and furious right now. We are all laughing at you ladies.
 

wvu2007

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What did I make up?

You're suggesting crimes were committed. The Mueller report and AG Barr concluded that is not the case. It is disturbing and quite frankly despicable that you and the other left wing loons are denigrating the office of the SC and AG.
 

TarHeelEer

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Maybe he did, I haven’t read volume 2 yet. But I’m reading on page 10 Mueller stating his investigation was impeded by actions of Trump subordinates

Using encrypted communications or deleting emails is not impeding an investigation. Those that lied were charged for it, and is not obstruction. Whatever else you might be getting at, page 10 does not document impeding an investigation.
 

dave

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Using encrypted communications or deleting emails is not impeding an investigation. Those that lied were charged for it, and is not obstruction. Whatever else you might be getting at, page 10 does not document impeding an investigation.
Encrypted communications could be using an Iphone.
 

atlkvb

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I think a Democratic Republic works best when all ideas are heard, and representatives compromise to find what works best.

How can you say that and be taken seriously when you have stated you DO NOT want Christians or their religion anywhere near Government or making policy? Relativism is fine, but lying is worse ya know?
 

atlkvb

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Maybe he did, I haven’t read volume 2 yet. But I’m reading on page 10 Mueller stating his investigation was impeded by actions of Trump subordinates

What was he impeded from? What couldn't he find out? What was kept from him?
 

atlkvb

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Using encrypted communications or deleting emails is not impeding an investigation. Those that lied were charged for it, and is not obstruction. Whatever else you might be getting at, page 10 does not document impeding an investigation.

Barr specifically stated examination of the investigation showed no restrictions on Mueller or his team. No one was denied access, or documents, or witnesses, or evidence. No executive privilege claims and no refusals to testfy. Everyone was ordered to cooperate with the investigation. This is why Barr concluded "no obstruction".
 

atlkvb

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You're suggesting crimes were committed. The Mueller report and AG Barr concluded that is not the case. It is disturbing and quite frankly despicable that you and the other left wing loons are denigrating the office of the SC and AG.

They're calling Barr a liar and Mueller incompetent.
 

atlkvb

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Obstruction IS the crime Boomer is referencing Dave. Obstruction IS a crime in itself.

You cannot have obstruction when there is no crime. No collusion was found. What else was being investigated to obstruct?
 

atlkvb

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They call a retired Grandmother silly little names and act like she was ever Leader of the free world, I'd say the derangement syndrome is with the folks still fuming about their hatred for her. But one things is for sure, she is ten times more intelligent than their clown.

She won the popular vote and still lost the election. Real smart lady let me tell ya.
 

atlkvb

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Why even argue with donnies defenders on here? You just know they would have condoned all this **** if Obama was this inept, lol, if they are Nazis they are the Hogans heroes types! "I am so ****ed..." And it ain't like this report proved anything about Ol Don I didn't already assume, aside from the fact that he is even dimmer than I thought. He better be glad he had folks that ignored his demands!

Hey Keyser what was Hillary's intent for having that illegal server and why do you suppose she deleted over 30,000 e mails on it if she didn't know it was illegal?
 

atlkvb

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Know what's enraging folks? All of these Leftists are still insisting Trump "obstructed justice" despite Mueller's report which says he didn't... but they refuse to admit the entire collusion investigation was a flat out HOAX! The FISA warrants were phony, the spying was phony (there was no national security threat) the evidence was non existent, the WHOLE THING WAS A GIANT MADE UP SCAM!

Why are we arguing "obstruction" over a non story? Meantime, all the real "collusion" on the part of Hillary, the DNC, and the Obama DOJ isn't even sniffed, even moreso it's been completely ignored!

Infuriating!
 

TarHeelEer

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Know what's enraging folks? All of these Leftists are still insisting Trump "obstructed justice despite Mueller's report which says he didn't but they refuse to admit the entire collusion investigation was a flat out HOAX! The FISA warrants were phony, the spying was phony (there was no national security threat) the evidence was non existent, the WHOLE THING WAS A GIANT MADE UP SCAM!

Why are we arguing "obstruction" over a non story? Meantime, all the real "collusion" on the part of Hillary, the DNC, and the Obama DOJ isn't even sniffed, even moreso it's been completely ignored!

Infuriating!

If he would've just smashed some phones that were evidence, everything would've been all right.