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The Peeper

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completed alcohol treatment, is sober and ready to return to coaching" (in addition to sueing USC West) Question is, if you are USC East fan would you rather have taken a chance on a guy fresh out of rehab who is motivated to prove himself or a guy ready to be sentenced to anger management classes at any minute (Muschump) I've been around people fresh from rehab and seen them flourish and work their tails off and have seen some of them return to rehab in a matter of days. What you got?
 
missouridawg

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In his suit against USC, he cites an A+ grade from BleacherReport.com for his coaching job against ASU. At least that's what I read on the Twitter.
 
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patdog

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USC may have 17ed up by suspending him with pay for him to enter rehab and get treatment and then firing him the next day. Would have probably had a better defense to this lawsuit if they'd just fired him for his behavior.
 
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Well.. Provo would be beneficial to the whole avoiding alcohol thing...
 
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patdog

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missouridawg said:
In his suit against USC, he cites an A+ grade from BleacherReport.com for his coaching job against ASU. At least that's what I read on the Twitter.
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I just pulled up the actual suit filed and word searched. That really is in there.
 
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coachnorm

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As a former USC fan I love USC being sued. The AD, Pat Haden, looked for a but kisser to defer to him irregardless of his competency to coach. Sarks hiring was devastating to the morale of the football fan base and Haden and the Board of Trustees did not give a damn. Sark was going to be fired at Washington because he was a terrible coach and rumors about alcoholism were swirling around there. I love seeing the arrogant USC bastards have to deal with this: they should have never hired him to start off with. BTW,wait until the NCAA members are put on the stand, in court, with the Todd McNair litigation. Jail time will be staring them in the face for perjury. Their feared truthful testimony will probably vindicate the Football Program, yet cause the university a public relations nightmare for not suing the NCAA before the sanctions ran its course? Also BTW, USC was scared to terminate Todd McNair before his contract ran its course: they knew something?
 
was21

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Yes it is. There's a difference between being an alcoholic and being a drunk
 
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jdbulldog

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what qualifies you to state that alcoholism is not a disease? You do not know what you are talking about.
 
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BigLeagueChew

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It's actually a disability under the law. USC screwed up by acknowledging it and the terminating him. He should have remainined suspended until he completed treatment and was no longer "disabled" and then USC could have terminated him without having employment legal issues.
 
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coachnorm

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patdog said:
USC may have 17ed up by suspending him with pay for him to enter rehab and get treatment and then firing him the next day. Would have probably had a better defense to this lawsuit if they'd just fired him for his behavior.
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As usual patdog is on point. USC is so arrogant that it did not want to concede to its fan base that they screwed up on the Sark hiring. The fan base was totally OK with Orgeron. Something caused USC to move on the Sark firing. Remember USC has ownership and leadership who are nothing but money whores. Probably, powerful money contacted USC and gave powerful directives and USC complied. At USC, powerful money trumps the fear of litigation from Sark.
 
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uptowndawg said:
Alcoholism is the only disease you can get yelled at for having.
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Eh, tell your wife of 15 years that you have an STD and Im guessing there will be some sort of yelling.

-nice Mitch Hedburg reference, too.
 
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MagnoliaHunter

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boo hoo. you hurt my feelings.

i have had to deal with 3 people in my life who were drug and/or alcohol addicts. I know all the excuses they use and how they try to play the i cant help it, its a disease and other things. You calling me names is the least of my worries, its the last resort of someone without enough brains to carry on a discussion.
 
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Have you ever been addicted to drugs or alcohol and tried to stop? Not being able to "help it" is kinda the hallmark of addiction.
 
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johnson86-1

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MagnoliaHunter said:
you dont catch alcoholism.
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It's semantics. It's a disease, but obviously it's in a group of diseases where there is some level of culpability. I can understand why somebody with leukemia would be a little miffed at the idea of alcoholism being classified the same as leukemia, but I don't think it's really different from fat people with heart disease or adult onset diabetes, smokers with lung cancer, tanning bed fanatics with skin cancer, etc. Not sure why alcoholics are judged more harshly.
 
Uncle Ruckus

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I have a few family members too and they can help it, they just have to want to get help. You obviously have no knowledge whatsoever on the subject so I'm not going to waste my time arguing with an uneducated fool.
 
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MagnoliaHunter

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you made my point for me.

By saying that they have to want to get help. Most don't want to get help because there is always someone who will take care of them and say its not their fault. How about not abusing things that you know going in are bad for you? Once again you have no argument so you resort the refrain of the ignorant, name calling.
 
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futaba.79

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nobody wants to be an addict............

nobody wakes up one day and decides they'll become hopelessly addicted to alcohol or drugs. It's a genetic disorder and thus can be classified as a disease like any other disorder. Can it be avoided? Sure. A non-drinker won't become an alcoholic. However, chances are that person, if he/she is saddled with the gene that promotes addiction, has some sort of uncontrollable vice.
 
Uncle Ruckus

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You think it's that easy to not abuse something when you're genetically inclined to do so? The need for alcohol can be stronger than the need to eat or drink. It's a curable disease. Please, give me what 'your' definition of a diseas is.
 
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Since no one has read their wittgensteinz, what would you suggest calling it? A habit? Why do some people develop the habit and others don't? Are people with OCD exercising their own free will when they repeat behaviors they know are detrimental to their health? How about people with schizophrenia? Are depression and anxiety choices?
 
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uptowndawg

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Next time a Mith Hedberg line comes to mind, I'll probably just keep it to myself.
 
GloryDawg

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BigLeagueChew said:
It's actually a disability under the law. USC screwed up by acknowledging it and the terminating him. He should have remainined suspended until he completed treatment and was no longer "disabled" and then USC could have terminated him without having employment legal issues.
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Didn't they fire him for being on the job drunk?
 
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coachnorm said:
As a former USC fan I love USC being sued. The AD, Pat Haden, looked for a but kisser to defer to him irregardless of his competency to coach. Sarks hiring was devastating to the morale of the football fan base and Haden and the Board of Trustees did not give a damn. Sark was going to be fired at Washington because he was a terrible coach and rumors about alcoholism were swirling around there. I love seeing the arrogant USC bastards have to deal with this: they should have never hired him to start off with. BTW,wait until the NCAA members are put on the stand, in court, with the Todd McNair litigation. Jail time will be staring them in the face for perjury. Their feared truthful testimony will probably vindicate the Football Program, yet cause the university a public relations nightmare for not suing the NCAA before the sanctions ran its course? Also BTW, USC was scared to terminate Todd McNair before his contract ran its course: they knew something?
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Is the Todd McNair suit ever going to court?
 
mcdawg22

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uptowndawg said:
Next time a Mith Hedberg line comes to mind, I'll probably just keep it to myself.
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I want to get a vending machine, with fun sized candy bars, and the glass in front is a magnifying glass. You'll be mad, but it will be too late.
 
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coachnorm

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BulldogBacker said:
Is the Todd McNair suit ever going to court?
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The Mc Nair case is going to trial soon. The State Appellate Court ruled, just days ago, against the NCAA's motion to dismiss Mc Nair's case. The Court also made a devastating set of rulings, against the NCAA, to justify it's decision. In short, the court has declared that there is no proof to tie USC with Reggie Bush's parents dealings in San Diego. The Court ruled that the NCAA disregarded the truth in regards to USC. The NCAA needed to nail Todd Mc Nair to connect USC to Reggie Bush's parents actions in San Diego: without this the NCAA could not sanction USC.

Google Todd McNair and a PDF of the official Courts ruling can be found. Other news sites are now publishing on the internet also so clarity can be found on this issue. Now that this is now going to trial, the members who signed of on the sanctions will have to justify their actions in light of the appellate courts decision. Every one of them is staring jail time for perjury if they slip up on the stand. Mc Nair's legal team will pound each one of them hard with the hopes that just one breaks ranks and then the real party begins?
 
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