I hope so. I love having official documents that prove those bastards are unethical
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I hope so. I love having official documents that prove those bastards are unethical
Well there you go. The law is not on their side, but they can use it to delay for a little while.
The sick thing though is that the State of Mississippi is paying the salaries of the OM council which is actively working against it.
The sick thing though is that the State of Mississippi is paying the salaries of the OM council which is actively working against it.
Bring Hugh Back!
BRING Hugh Back!!
BRING HUGH Back!!!
BRING HUGH BACK!!!!
Rally will be held on the Square tonight, immediately after Happy Hour!
BRING Hugh Back!!
BRING HUGH Back!!!
BRING HUGH BACK!!!!
Rally will be held on the Square tonight, immediately after Happy Hour!
If they enter December with this Mars/Burner/Cellphone BS floating around, I think it really hurts them in a hunt for a new coach.
What coach is going to say "yeah, I'm good with whatever massive bombshell they may be hiding"?
What coach is going to say "yeah, I'm good with whatever massive bombshell they may be hiding"?
Pretty obvious that the records are going to show hookers for recruits and OM will do much pretty much anything to keep that from getting out. That is something that might actually get OM the death penalty.
As a retired state employee
As a retired state employee, when the rules changed once cell phones became the norm I gave mine up and got my own because I didn’t want to reimburse them for my personal calls and I was in charge of collecting the cost of every personal call made. Well long story short, we went thru a couple of situations that I had to meet with the auditors that wear guns and they got my phone records because I did state business on my phone, so bottom line doesn’t matter who pays for it it’s there for them and our attorney’s told me that and I didn’t get the opportunity to redact any of my calls…but I didn’t have any hooker numbers either….
As a retired state employee, when the rules changed once cell phones became the norm I gave mine up and got my own because I didn’t want to reimburse them for my personal calls and I was in charge of collecting the cost of every personal call made. Well long story short, we went thru a couple of situations that I had to meet with the auditors that wear guns and they got my phone records because I did state business on my phone, so bottom line doesn’t matter who pays for it it’s there for them and our attorney’s told me that and I didn’t get the opportunity to redact any of my calls…but I didn’t have any hooker numbers either….
However, the Nutt Affair is in Federal Court
And has subpoena power, and this other does not matter.
Freeze and his info is material to the situation, regardless.
And has subpoena power, and this other does not matter.
Freeze and his info is material to the situation, regardless.
This is the reason that I carried 2 phones when I worked for the State. The State provided one for State business and my personal phone for personal calls and business. My family members and friends also had strict instructions to never use my work email address either. I tried to keep work and personal communications as far apart as possible just so that anything in my personal could not be used against me if a situation had arisen. Luckily I never had to worry about this. The same will happen if I go to work for a private company. I'll keep work and personal separated.
This is actually good news.
I want them to fight Nutt, Mars and the NCAA to the death.
Exemplary cooperation!
I want them to fight Nutt, Mars and the NCAA to the death.
Exemplary cooperation!
No, Hugh resigned his job due to a "pattern of personal misconduct" that violated his morals clause. It doesn't really matter how his employer found out about it, once they knew about it he was gone. It is weird that it only came to UMiss's attention due to a records request and a failure to redact all private calls, because they really should have known about it already. Plus, I'm willing to bet that Freeze was involved in the redaction of those records, so he cannot complain about an invasion of his privacy. If his privacy was valuable, then he should have taken better care to protect it.
You might say they failed to monitor the situation or that the institution lost control.
I'm not going to say you are wrong but I still don't see how this is a huge positive for Ole Miss. Yes, they get him out the door without having to pay him, but then they still drape their arm around him for the COI plus they stay with Matt Luke so you don't even get the advantage of having the seat open to find a coach. I thought for sure they would start talking "Freeze fooled us all!" Without using this to help the case with the NCAA it just seems like you would be turning out Freeze who might turn on you.
Here is my theory: I think the request for the records came in before the lawsuit and was handled purely by administrative people without a second thought. Ole Miss was focused on a lot of other crap going on and this was red tape and normal corporate incompetence, not conspiracy. I think the AD and Freeze knew all along what was in the phone records (burner phones and hookers for recruits) but they are typically arrogant Ole Miss people and never thought someone like Steve Robertson would look up every single phone number. So when the number came out they got together and decided Freeze would resign, take a personal hit for sexing up some hookers (considering his wife is staying with him I have to think he has her convinced the hookers weren't for him), lay low for a few years and start coaching again. Hell, they may even be planning an amazing comeback at Ole Miss someday. Freeze is going to go along with this because if the hookers for 'cruits and burner phone thing comes out he will be blackballed for coaching forever.
To make this work they have to stop the rest of the phone records from coming out, which now that people have their teeth in this I really don't think that is going to be possible. If you redact the bad stuff and the records don't show a "pattern of misconduct" people know they hid relevant info. I think they backed themselves in a corner and are screwed, and they are scrambling looking for some sort of exit.
I would imagine an escort service isn't just going to release info on a client. That goes along as part of the industry is keeping transactions private.
Speaking of the industry, think we could cross reference his call log with the Ashley Madison log we had here? I wonder if any of the burner phones show up
I had thought about that before, but it doesn't really add up when you consider the chain of events that followed. If they had done it on purpose, UM would have likely fired him immediately after Mars alerted them to the call. Instead they called it a "misdial" and a non-story when Mars told them about it- then told Pat Forde and Dan Wolken the same thing when they came knocking. Only after it was obvious that the story was getting out did Bjork "proactively" search the rest of the records and find a pattern- which that in an of itself smells like a line of bull.
No, I think the much more likely scenario is that they are egregiously incompetent, as they have been from day 1. They knew what was probably on those records and tried to redact the bad stuff to make sure Mars didn't get his hands on it... Only to accidentally leave the call to the escort service unredacted. When initially called on it, they tried to play it off as a misdial hoping it would go away. When it didn't they had no choice but to try and save whatever face they could and fire him. What UM was hoping would not happen is for journalist and Mars to request the rest of the records and keep digging- which is exactly what's happening now.
The records are coming out one way or another, IMO. This is just a delay tactic to try and keep their contents out of the news before the COI meets. If I was a UM fan, I'd be furious at the administration.