So, nothing official or confirmed yet?

FlotownDawg

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We won't know for sure until 10:30. That's when the NCAA officially releases the penalties.
 

msstate7

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Gotta figure OM is telling most of the truth, but not all. Hopefully something like the NCAA accepted 11 self imposed scholarships, but not that OM has already imposed them. Who knows though
 

Shmuley

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Transfer eligibility. Vacated wins. LOIC. I want Djork's *** on a stick being marched out of town. With his trike drug behind.
 

Faustdog

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You’ve also got to figure that if the Leo stuff didn’t stick, they’d have it out there everywhere by now.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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Someone explain this to me. Do the scholarship losses mean you can’t sign x during this year, or doesn’t mean your total schollies have to be 85-x for this year. What I’m getting at, do the transfers count towards the deductions?
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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Literally they mean Ole Miss can sign 18-19 per year instead of the normal 25, but the NCAA will probably lower the 85 cap for at least 2 maybe 3 years also. The devil is in the details of the scholarship limits
 

Drebin

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Transfers shouldn't count against the total. If it's 24/4, then they can only sign 19 per year instead of 25. That will put them at or around 61 scholarship players by the end. Transfers and injuries would further reduce that number. Throw in the fact that most of those scholarship players are products of the last couple of ****** recruiting classes, and it looks pretty bad for them.
 

johnson86-1

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Someone explain this to me. Do the scholarship losses mean you can’t sign x during this year, or doesn’t mean your total schollies have to be 85-x for this year. What I’m getting at, do the transfers count towards the deductions?

Pretty sure just the number signed. So if they are getting 7, 6, and 6 (which is what I think the 24 scholarships over three years would work out to if they get to count their previous "reductions" towards the total), they can sign 18, 19, and 19 in the 2018, 2019, and 2020 signing classes.

What I'm not sure about is how that impacts the scholarship numbers. I assume you can't benefit from an unusually small senior class and you have to drop the 85 by 7 in the first year. I.e., if you are only losing 18 scholarship players from your current 85 scholarhips, you can't just sign 18 players and claim you took a loss of 7 scholarships. You have to acctually get down to 78 one way or another. But that's just me assuming that the penalties are logical, which is probably not an safe assumption.
 

00Dawg

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Yeah, initial counters vs overall matters a lot.

Also, I had forgotten the 11 self-imposed was from the original NOA:
View attachment 9008

The 2017 response to the amended NOA had more:
View attachment 9009

So, it could be 28 or 23 scholarships depending on how you look at it. Initial counters are what really hurt.
 

blacklistedbully

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I believe the schollie reductions get to be counted back to the self-imposed portion that OM is saying go back to 2015.
 
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