So if Fox news , CNN, MSNBC

sammyk

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All lie where do you go for "News". I like the AP, NPR, and the Wall street journal
 

TarHeelEer

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It depends on what it is. Sometimes a single source is ok, but typically I'll find at least one on each side, and with the clickbait nowadays, you have to dig to find who the origin was.

If it's a court decision or something like that, I will look up the documents associated with it, and bypass the article.

If it's from NYT, WaPo, CNN, or AP, and it's anonymously sourced as far as statements (ex: "50 analysts agree that..." or "former intelligence officers" or "someone familiar with...") it is ignored.
 

dave

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It depends on what it is. Sometimes a single source is ok, but typically I'll find at least one on each side, and with the clickbait nowadays, you have to dig to find who the origin was.

If it's a court decision or something like that, I will look up the documents associated with it, and bypass the article.

If it's from NYT, WaPo, CNN, or AP, and it's anonymously sourced as far as statements (ex: "50 analysts agree that..." or "former intelligence officers" or "someone familiar with...") it is ignored.
In other words. You practice sound judgement.

If a report doesn't show the receipts it should be treated with skepticism.
 

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NPR and PBS are more far left liberal than MSNBC.......Is Miss Piggy still on? And Christiane Amanpour's liberal bias is sick.
 

op2

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For things like hurricanes, natural disasters, etc, the MSM is okay. For anything else, they are propaganda for a POV. Other than watching clips of them on Youtube to see if they're still being silly, I don't watch them at all.

I watch Krystal and Saagar on Breaking Points (on Youtube). And I watch Countpoints, which is a once per week sub-show of Breaking Points that has Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinski. Breaking Points is mostly just Krystal and Saagar but they have guests on sometimes and I learn of new people that way.

I sometimes watch Rising on thehill.com (or Youtube). I watch Kim Iversen. She used to be on Rising and she was an expert on the COVID stuff and Fauci and Rising had Fauci on (and it was rare to see him go anywhere other than where his rear end was kissed) and I soon found out why he finally went on Rising, because they wouldn't let Kim question him and instead let the other anchors lob softballs at Fauci. So Kim quit and went back to doing her own show. You can find her on Youtube too. Here is the video Kim made after she quit Rising.



I read some substacks. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi and also Bari Weiss' "The Free Press" (formerly "Common Sense"), which has a lot more people on it than just Bari Weiss. Jonathan Haidt (a moral psychologist) had a great piece The Free Press just today about the big upswing in mental illness among young people over the last 10 years ago.

There are several others that I can't recall now. One is The Flip Side. You sign up and in your inbox each day you get an email about a current topic and 3-4 takes on it from media both on the Left and the Right. So you get a quick summary of the Left and Right opinion in various media without having to actually go to those media.

ETA: After you go awhile reading and watching decent media, the MSM begins to look like a complete joke. If I watch it now I think to myself "How can anyone take this seriously?" When I watch them and see them in their suit and tie making their serious face and using their serious voice, I just roll my eyes. They are ridiculous and the fact that they try to act important only makes them even more ridiculous.

ETA: I forgot one. Coffeezilla. I first saw him on Breaking Points and recently he was on Rogan. His schtick is basically investigating scams. If you want to know about the FTX thing, look him up on Youtube (and he has others stuff on there too). He explains stuff really, really well.
 
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DvlDog4WVU

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For things like hurricanes, natural disasters, etc, the MSM is okay. For anything else, they are propaganda for a POV. Other than watching clips of them on Youtube to see if they're still being silly, I don't watch them at all.

I watch Krystal and Saagar on Breaking Points (on Youtube). And I watch Countpoints, which is a once per week sub-show of Breaking Points that has Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinski. Breaking Points is mostly just Krystal and Saagar but they have guests on sometimes and I learn of new people that way.

I sometimes watch Rising on thehill.com (or Youtube). I watch Kim Iversen. She used to be on Rising and she was an expert on the COVID stuff and Fauci and Rising had Fauci on (and it was rare to see him go anywhere other than where his rear end was kissed) and I soon found out why he finally went on Rising, because they wouldn't let Kim question him and instead let the other anchors lob softballs at Fauci. So Kim quit and went back to doing her own show. You can find her on Youtube too. Here is the video Kim made after she quit Rising.



I read some substacks. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi and also Bari Weiss' "The Free Press" (formerly "Common Sense"), which has a lot more people on it than just Bari Weiss. Jonathan Haidt (a moral psychologist) had a great piece The Free Press just today about the big upswing in mental illness among young people over the last 10 years ago.

There are several others that I can't recall now. One is The Flip Side. You sign up and in your inbox each day you get an email about a current topic and 3-4 takes on it from media both on the Left and the Right. So you get a quick summary of the Left and Right opinion in various media without having to actually go to those media.

ETA: After you go awhile reading and watching decent media, the MSM begins to look like a complete joke. If I watch it now I think to myself "How can anyone take this seriously?" When I watch them and see them in their suit and tie making their serious face and using their serious voice, I just roll my eyes. They are ridiculous and the fact that they try to act important only makes them even more ridiculous.

ETA: I forgot one. Coffeezilla. I first saw him on Breaking Points and recently he was on Rogan. His schtick is basically investigating scams. If you want to know about the FTX thing, look him up on Youtube (and he has others stuff on there too). He explains stuff really, really well.

Sounds like you and I are pretty much on the same train. I love the podcasts route. Sooooooo much better coverage of topics. It really makes it stand out when people come on here with their rehearsed talking points. Hard to even take them seriously.
 

dave

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For things like hurricanes, natural disasters, etc, the MSM is okay. For anything else, they are propaganda for a POV. Other than watching clips of them on Youtube to see if they're still being silly, I don't watch them at all.

I watch Krystal and Saagar on Breaking Points (on Youtube). And I watch Countpoints, which is a once per week sub-show of Breaking Points that has Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinski. Breaking Points is mostly just Krystal and Saagar but they have guests on sometimes and I learn of new people that way.

I sometimes watch Rising on thehill.com (or Youtube). I watch Kim Iversen. She used to be on Rising and she was an expert on the COVID stuff and Fauci and Rising had Fauci on (and it was rare to see him go anywhere other than where his rear end was kissed) and I soon found out why he finally went on Rising, because they wouldn't let Kim question him and instead let the other anchors lob softballs at Fauci. So Kim quit and went back to doing her own show. You can find her on Youtube too. Here is the video Kim made after she quit Rising.



I read some substacks. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi and also Bari Weiss' "The Free Press" (formerly "Common Sense"), which has a lot more people on it than just Bari Weiss. Jonathan Haidt (a moral psychologist) had a great piece The Free Press just today about the big upswing in mental illness among young people over the last 10 years ago.

There are several others that I can't recall now. One is The Flip Side. You sign up and in your inbox each day you get an email about a current topic and 3-4 takes on it from media both on the Left and the Right. So you get a quick summary of the Left and Right opinion in various media without having to actually go to those media.

ETA: After you go awhile reading and watching decent media, the MSM begins to look like a complete joke. If I watch it now I think to myself "How can anyone take this seriously?" When I watch them and see them in their suit and tie making their serious face and using their serious voice, I just roll my eyes. They are ridiculous and the fact that they try to act important only makes them even more ridiculous.

ETA: I forgot one. Coffeezilla. I first saw him on Breaking Points and recently he was on Rogan. His schtick is basically investigating scams. If you want to know about the FTX thing, look him up on Youtube (and he has others stuff on there too). He explains stuff really, really well.

Solid post
 

roadtrasheer

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For things like hurricanes, natural disasters, etc, the MSM is okay. For anything else, they are propaganda for a POV. Other than watching clips of them on Youtube to see if they're still being silly, I don't watch them at all.

I watch Krystal and Saagar on Breaking Points (on Youtube). And I watch Countpoints, which is a once per week sub-show of Breaking Points that has Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinski. Breaking Points is mostly just Krystal and Saagar but they have guests on sometimes and I learn of new people that way.

I sometimes watch Rising on thehill.com (or Youtube). I watch Kim Iversen. She used to be on Rising and she was an expert on the COVID stuff and Fauci and Rising had Fauci on (and it was rare to see him go anywhere other than where his rear end was kissed) and I soon found out why he finally went on Rising, because they wouldn't let Kim question him and instead let the other anchors lob softballs at Fauci. So Kim quit and went back to doing her own show. You can find her on Youtube too. Here is the video Kim made after she quit Rising.



I read some substacks. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi and also Bari Weiss' "The Free Press" (formerly "Common Sense"), which has a lot more people on it than just Bari Weiss. Jonathan Haidt (a moral psychologist) had a great piece The Free Press just today about the big upswing in mental illness among young people over the last 10 years ago.

There are several others that I can't recall now. One is The Flip Side. You sign up and in your inbox each day you get an email about a current topic and 3-4 takes on it from media both on the Left and the Right. So you get a quick summary of the Left and Right opinion in various media without having to actually go to those media.

ETA: After you go awhile reading and watching decent media, the MSM begins to look like a complete joke. If I watch it now I think to myself "How can anyone take this seriously?" When I watch them and see them in their suit and tie making their serious face and using their serious voice, I just roll my eyes. They are ridiculous and the fact that they try to act important only makes them even more ridiculous.

ETA: I forgot one. Coffeezilla. I first saw him on Breaking Points and recently he was on Rogan. His schtick is basically investigating scams. If you want to know about the FTX thing, look him up on Youtube (and he has others stuff on there too). He explains stuff really, really well.

Thanks .
I read newsbreak on my phone so I get both sides view of any subject.
Get passed the first 3 paragraphs and the personal opinions and some truth comes out . Funny how each side use a different set of numbers to tell the truth . I use some common sense then form a opinion .
 

ThePunish-EER

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For things like hurricanes, natural disasters, etc, the MSM is okay. For anything else, they are propaganda for a POV. Other than watching clips of them on Youtube to see if they're still being silly, I don't watch them at all.

I watch Krystal and Saagar on Breaking Points (on Youtube). And I watch Countpoints, which is a once per week sub-show of Breaking Points that has Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinski. Breaking Points is mostly just Krystal and Saagar but they have guests on sometimes and I learn of new people that way.

I sometimes watch Rising on thehill.com (or Youtube). I watch Kim Iversen. She used to be on Rising and she was an expert on the COVID stuff and Fauci and Rising had Fauci on (and it was rare to see him go anywhere other than where his rear end was kissed) and I soon found out why he finally went on Rising, because they wouldn't let Kim question him and instead let the other anchors lob softballs at Fauci. So Kim quit and went back to doing her own show. You can find her on Youtube too. Here is the video Kim made after she quit Rising.



I read some substacks. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi and also Bari Weiss' "The Free Press" (formerly "Common Sense"), which has a lot more people on it than just Bari Weiss. Jonathan Haidt (a moral psychologist) had a great piece The Free Press just today about the big upswing in mental illness among young people over the last 10 years ago.

There are several others that I can't recall now. One is The Flip Side. You sign up and in your inbox each day you get an email about a current topic and 3-4 takes on it from media both on the Left and the Right. So you get a quick summary of the Left and Right opinion in various media without having to actually go to those media.

ETA: After you go awhile reading and watching decent media, the MSM begins to look like a complete joke. If I watch it now I think to myself "How can anyone take this seriously?" When I watch them and see them in their suit and tie making their serious face and using their serious voice, I just roll my eyes. They are ridiculous and the fact that they try to act important only makes them even more ridiculous.

ETA: I forgot one. Coffeezilla. I first saw him on Breaking Points and recently he was on Rogan. His schtick is basically investigating scams. If you want to know about the FTX thing, look him up on Youtube (and he has others stuff on there too). He explains stuff really, really well.

The only thing msm is good for and accurate on is the sports ticker that provides the scores. THAT is literally the only thing I utilize them for. Everything else is a waste of my time.
 

Gunny46

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Biden and Mitch McConnell sold out to the CCP is sold news. Anybody reporting on that is telling you the truth.
 

NYC_Eer

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For things like hurricanes, natural disasters, etc, the MSM is okay. For anything else, they are propaganda for a POV. Other than watching clips of them on Youtube to see if they're still being silly, I don't watch them at all.

I watch Krystal and Saagar on Breaking Points (on Youtube). And I watch Countpoints, which is a once per week sub-show of Breaking Points that has Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinski. Breaking Points is mostly just Krystal and Saagar but they have guests on sometimes and I learn of new people that way.

I sometimes watch Rising on thehill.com (or Youtube). I watch Kim Iversen. She used to be on Rising and she was an expert on the COVID stuff and Fauci and Rising had Fauci on (and it was rare to see him go anywhere other than where his rear end was kissed) and I soon found out why he finally went on Rising, because they wouldn't let Kim question him and instead let the other anchors lob softballs at Fauci. So Kim quit and went back to doing her own show. You can find her on Youtube too. Here is the video Kim made after she quit Rising.



I read some substacks. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi and also Bari Weiss' "The Free Press" (formerly "Common Sense"), which has a lot more people on it than just Bari Weiss. Jonathan Haidt (a moral psychologist) had a great piece The Free Press just today about the big upswing in mental illness among young people over the last 10 years ago.

There are several others that I can't recall now. One is The Flip Side. You sign up and in your inbox each day you get an email about a current topic and 3-4 takes on it from media both on the Left and the Right. So you get a quick summary of the Left and Right opinion in various media without having to actually go to those media.

ETA: After you go awhile reading and watching decent media, the MSM begins to look like a complete joke. If I watch it now I think to myself "How can anyone take this seriously?" When I watch them and see them in their suit and tie making their serious face and using their serious voice, I just roll my eyes. They are ridiculous and the fact that they try to act important only makes them even more ridiculous.

ETA: I forgot one. Coffeezilla. I first saw him on Breaking Points and recently he was on Rogan. His schtick is basically investigating scams. If you want to know about the FTX thing, look him up on Youtube (and he has others stuff on there too). He explains stuff really, really well.

Ditto everything you said. Listen to Rogan religiously as well. He definitely has that mindset of making decisions not purely based on the right or left agenda, and has introed a lot of people to new news sources.
 

NYC_Eer

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All lie where do you go for "News". I like the AP, NPR, and the Wall street journal
WVU82's feed on here is great.
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Ditto everything you said. Listen to Rogan religiously as well. He definitely has that mindset of making decisions not purely based on the right or left agenda, and has introed a lot of people to new news sources.
Yes, I listen to Rogan a fair bit, although a lot of his stuff isn't politics or social issues. But his show did introduce me to Krystal & Saagar of Breaking Points and maybe Matt Taibbi too. And others. It's encouraging that a show where people sit and talk for three hours straight, and not one that needed a push by a big corporation, has gotten so popular
 

dave

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Yes, I listen to Rogan a fair bit, although a lot of his stuff isn't politics or social issues. But his show did introduce me to Krystal & Saagar of Breaking Points and maybe Matt Taibbi too. And others. It's encouraging that a show where people sit and talk for three hours straight, and not one that needed a push by a big corporation, has gotten so popular
Probably the biggest indictment of corporate media is the way they are attacking Taibbi over his reporting on the Twitter files. Journalist used to defend other journalists to the end.
 

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Yes, I listen to Rogan a fair bit, although a lot of his stuff isn't politics or social issues. But his show did introduce me to Krystal & Saagar of Breaking Points and maybe Matt Taibbi too. And others. It's encouraging that a show where people sit and talk for three hours straight, and not one that needed a push by a big corporation, has gotten so popular
I forgot to add that I watch Triggernometry sometimes, which I stumbled across independently a few years ago. It is hosted by two British guys and here is one of them. He is right on the mark with this.

 

DvlDog4WVU

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I forgot to add that I watch Triggernometry sometimes, which I stumbled across independently a few years ago. It is hosted by two British guys and here is one of them. He is right on the mark with this.


He’s the guy that gave that great speech in Oxford.
 
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