So I have always been a Cohen supporter

[coach66]

But I can understand the folks wanting
A change. So who would you hire because that is important.

 

[msstate7]

I'd offer Dan heefner

 

[57stratdawg]

I had no idea we lost. Damn.

 

[tatedog]

But I can understand the folks wanting
A change. So who would you hire because that is important.

Start the interviews with 2 questions: 1) Have you ever been served papers in an opponent's dugout? 2) Have any of your past hirings alienated half the fan base? If the guy answers 'yes' to either question, move on.

 

[coach66]

Cohen will survive this but he has totally

Eliminated all good will. If he doesn't make a super next year he won't survive. I'm trying to be level headed on this but that the way i see it. His performance this year was just bad.

 

[tatedog]

I WANT Cohen to succeed as much as anyone. The facts and the numbers don't lie though. If you are going to ask fans to excuse the first two seasons because you inherited a dumpster fire you better damn well not come full circle running the program into another dumpster fire.

 

[engie]

You fire a guy 2 years removed from a national title series -- especially a guy that is one of your own and who turned down the richest contract in the history of college baseball at the time to come coach for you -- you aren't getting an elite head coach. This time next year, this is either a reasonable discussion or we can look back and laugh about it. But as of right now, it's insanity...

 

[Lee Corso]

“You don’t want to be the coach who follows the legend” (coaching adage)


Smoke Laval after Skip Bertman...... et al..

 

[tatedog]

“You don’t want to be the coach who follows the legend” (coaching adage)


Smoke Laval after Skip Bertman...... et al..

Holbrook at USC-e is another good example.

 

[Ace-Leroy]

You fire a guy 2 years removed from a national title series -- especially a guy that is one of your own and who turned down the richest contract in the history of college baseball at the time to come coach for you -- you aren't getting an elite head coach. This time next year, this is either a reasonable discussion or we can look back and laugh about it. But as of right now, it's insanity...

Cohen will probably be back next year and you will be back making excuses for his losing again.

 

[engie]

“You don’t want to be the coach who follows the legend” (coaching adage)


Smoke Laval after Skip Bertman...... et al..

Pat McMahon was the coach that followed the legend. Not John Cohen...

 

[engie]

Cohen will probably be back next year and you will be back making excuses for his losing again.

And I'm sure when it turns you will "know he was going to do it all along"...

The difference is that you'll actually remember my position on the matter if by some tragedy you are right -- and in all likelihood when I'm right -- your opinion will just be lost in the maze...

 

[drt7891]

This. To be discussing anything remotely related to firing Cohen right now is insanity. I'm as pissed off as the next guy, but Cohen and Thompson both deserve another year. It's that simple.

 

[Lee Corso]

I said NOTHING about coach Polk.

But, I guess you are referring about Polk 1, and not Polk 2.

McMahon was likely just a "figurehead" while Polk 1 was at Georgia.

Who knows or cares?

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

Coach66.... I agree with you. I think Scott will give Cohen another year. And the way I see it with returning players and new signees, etc, we should be much better next year. I don't look at things by one series or even by one year. I look at the past five years (years 3 through 7) and Cohen has a losing SEC record. That's not a snapshot....that includes our Final 2 year in '13. A losing SEC record over five years after not counting his first two years. That's not acceptable to me.
I think we will be much better next year and should host a Regional, etc ......but over the next five years? I've seen enough to forecast that with the losing SEC record over the last five. Predict the future by looking at the past.
I was watching the LSU-Mo game tonight and they showed Manieri's record. Over 400 wins in less than nine full seasons. That's averaging about 45 wins each year (and BTW they didn't take out his first two seasons either). With our fanbase and stadium, why can't we average 45 wins a year?

 

[tatedog]

Coach66.... I agree with you. I think Scott will give Cohen another year. And the way I see it with returning players and new signees, etc, we should be much better next year. I don't look at things by one series or even by one year. I look at the past five years (years 3 through 7) and Cohen has a losing SEC record. That's not a snapshot....that includes our Final 2 year in '13. A losing SEC record over five years after not counting his first two years. That's not acceptable to me.
I think we will be much better next year and should host a Regional, etc ......but over the next five years? I've seen enough to forecast that with the losing SEC record over the last five. Predict the future by looking at the past.
I was watching the LSU-Mo game tonight and they showed Manieri's record. Over 400 wins in less than nine full seasons. That's averaging about 45 wins each year (and BTW they didn't take out his first two seasons either). With our fanbase and stadium, why can't we average 45 wins a year?

Because we were too good to hire Paul Manieri when he did everything but give Larry Templeton and our baseball program a hand job after his ND team lost to us in the 2000(?) regional in Starkville.

 

[engie]

With our fanbase and stadium, why can't we average 45 wins a year?

We have the 6th best stadium in the SECwest as of today. Our stadium hasn't been an advantage in almost a decade now. Not even in comparsion with our neighbors to the north since 2009.

LSU can offer a lifelong MSU fan from Jackson Ms more baseball scholarship money than MSU can. They do not have to use any of their baseball money in state given their lottery and can use all 11.7 chasing guys out of state.

Comparing us to LSU is a long way from apples to apples as of today -- and has been for a long time. We'll be chasing a John Vaught rabbit if we think the baseball 80s are coming back. Many of our on-field advantages have been legislated into disadvantages. We can be an elite baseball school in spite of those disadvantages -- but we can not be LSU until Mississippi joins this century with the lottery stuff. Which we still wouldn't see the advantage of in the same way LSU does because of Ayers.

 

[Lee Corso]

if we think the baseball 80s are coming back.

Man, I really miss those Diamond Bitches on the Tractors dragging the dirt field!

 

[121Josey]

I care and you said all of that about Polk. McMahon succeeded at UF.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

One more year. It's that simple. If we miss a regional get rid of him. Hell, top 6 of the sec is what we should expect every year. If he doesn't have us in (and more like hosting) next year then it's time to start look elsewhere. However, what do we have back to be excited about (+sec player)?
Houston - yes
Hudson- probably
Tatum - maybe
Sexton - probably
Smith - maybe
Rooker - maybe
Holland - unlikely
Collins - probably/yes
Humphreys - maybe
Reynolds - yes
Robson - yes
Smith - maybe
That's not everyone but that's some of the ones who played this year who I think may have an impact. That's 3 who I think WILL have an impact , 3 who I think probably will. That's offense and defense. With that being said, I don't see us being very good next year. I hope Cohen works some voodoo **** but with what's coming back I don't see it happening unless some rFR or tFR make some big contributions.