So how do you get experience?

[Comebakatz3]

I loved it when Tyler Ulis signed with UK. Finally, I thot, a kid who's a baller who will stay all 4 years.

But no, had to run him off to make room for Fox, and who wouldn't want Fox. But was one year of Fox better than 2 more years of Ulis?

And don't give me the BS about getting to the NBA as soon as possible. Ulis's NBA career/money would have been the same no matter when he left.

The answer is to recruit basketball skills (not pro potential), especially shooting and quickness. Of course there will be some overlap but if you only recruit potential that's going to be realized post-UK you'll wind up exactly where the Cats are today. At home.

Regardless of where Ulis is today, he needed to and did strike when the iron was hot for him. He had an outstanding year and being that he had physical limitations, his draft stock was not likely to get any better. In fact, it was probably only likely to go down, not because of age, but because he might get less PT and might not have players as compatible to play with him (like Booker). I wouldn’t say that scared him off as much as it just didn’t make sense to return to school. He had a major issue holding him back from being an NBA player (height) and that wasn’t going to change from sophomore year to senior year and nothing he could show on the court was really going to change that.

 

[Blueaz]

I never said that the entire team was experienced, pal. In fact, I just said that the front court was and they were for the most part. I mean, I guess it depends on which type of experience you're talking about. PJ Washington and to a lesser extent Nick Richards had NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 experience and experience of a tough 26-11 season last year. Some Juniors and Seniors never even get to to experience an NCAA Tournament let alone the Sweet 16. Reid Travis had 5th year Senior type of experience even if it was 4 years at Stanford. Two diffetent types of "experience" but experience nonetheless.

Read MY post again, man. Please don't put words in my mouth like the Coach Cal obsessed nut jobs on this site love to do..they've been doing that to me and some others since yesterday. I don't want/need anymore of it. It's annoying as hell.

then why did you respond to me, that way; pal? if I misread..I apologize

edit...this is my feelings from another thread...I don't think I'm a nut hugger, but I am also not unrealistic the other way and a hater


I proclaimed the entire season that K would not win this year
Not patting myself on the back; I just really believed he didn’t have the stomach to improve those guys...

Cal wont win another NCAAT until he takes on a few players that will contribute with upperclassmen experience in his system.
(that don’t get hurt, poythress)
I don’t think he will get those top 1 or 2 guys he doesn’t just let them play. He tries to change their game for the next level. Sometimes it works... KAT and AD.

But I can accept that... because in today’s NBA, finding that dominate coach that will rule college ball may be impossible.
I think elite 8s with a chance, is going to be the best that can be hoped for and my fandom is dropping.

 

[Comebakatz3]

But Cal is recruiting guys that are not OADs. Willis, Hawkins, Dakari, Wynyard, Lamb, Poole, Vargas, Wiltjer, Poythress, Lee, Ulis, Harrison twins, WCS, Briscoe, Gabriel, Humphries, SKJ, Green, Richards. It's not that Cal only recruits OADs, it is that he doesn't get players to say more than 2 yrs, outside a couple of exceptions.

I am going to agree with your overall premise, that not getting them to stay longer definitely is a problem. However, I just have to ask… what makes someone ‘not a OAD’ out of high school? How do you gauge that? The Harrison twins, Briscoe, and Dakari Johnson, right or wrong, were all top 10 recruits nationally. I would certainly think that puts them squarely in the conversation of being OAD type recruits, and that would be their mindset. I wouldn’t think Cal, or anyone, should really rely on those guys to be 3-4 year type players, but instead be very happy if you get more than the one. So, what do you think is that criteria of being OAD?


What concerns me more if that many of those on your list did spend multiple years here and a whole lot of them failed to pan out to be reliable contributors, especially on offense. Maybe I am wrong, but I am not sure many, if any, of them really overachieved their recruiting rankings. Defensively WCS probably did, but offensively he often disappeared and didn’t really develop into the scoring threat you’d hope to see from a 7 footer as athletic as he was.

 

[Bluegrassking]

Why does Ky does not have all the scholarships filled?

Because it is very difficult to participate in the early signing period with no scholarships available.