Smooth Transition?

[RedMyMind]

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/...cle_e58f730a-d46d-11e7-9aaf-bf2c4bb71a05.html.

"There was a lot of negativity and a lot of the players felt like they had to choose sides," Bray said. "Which is never a good thing for young people to have to do. And that plagued us our first year. There were a lot of hard times because of that. And I don't want to do that. I don't think it's right."

"I've been through all of the emotions," Bray said. "Being angry, talking about leaving. The advice I gave — that my dad gave me — is take a deep breath, it'll work out for the best. And Coach Riley came in, and it was the best thing that happened to me. I let them know it was going to be all right, that Nebraska was going to hire a great coach and a great person that'll treat you guys right. It seems like a dark time in the world, but it's not. Bright days are ahead."

From what Bray said, it appears that we won't have to deal with a repeat of 2014/2015 when their was mutiny in the team. That's a good thing.

 

[CC_Lemming]

How refreshing to have real *** adults who take personal responsibility for their actions and recognize the university and fans want what’s best for the players too.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/...cle_e58f730a-d46d-11e7-9aaf-bf2c4bb71a05.html.

"There was a lot of negativity and a lot of the players felt like they had to choose sides," Bray said. "Which is never a good thing for young people to have to do. And that plagued us our first year. There were a lot of hard times because of that. And I don't want to do that. I don't think it's right."

"I've been through all of the emotions," Bray said. "Being angry, talking about leaving. The advice I gave — that my dad gave me — is take a deep breath, it'll work out for the best. And Coach Riley came in, and it was the best thing that happened to me. I let them know it was going to be all right, that Nebraska was going to hire a great coach and a great person that'll treat you guys right. It seems like a dark time in the world, but it's not. Bright days are ahead."

From what Bray said, it appears that we won't have to deal with a repeat of 2014/2015 when their was mutiny in the team. That's a good thing.

Personally think it's 50/50 at best if Bray is here next year. Seems to be handling with class as did his boss. Helps that he knows moos too. At any rate he should get a good recommendation for a what ever his next gig is

 

[Huskercigar]

Yea that's pretty much how it went on the boards too. About 50/50. You can't blame many players revolting for firing a 9 win coach for a 6 win coach. WE just didn't listen to them real well. Instead we blamed them for not buying in. That's what always peeved me. Posters calling out the players for not buying into this crappy coaching staff.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

The toxins!

 

[o_h3]

Yea that's pretty much how it went on the boards too. About 50/50. You can't blame many players revolting for firing a 9 win coach for a 6 win coach. WE just didn't listen to them real well. Instead we blamed them for not buying in. That's what always peeved me. Posters calling out the players for not buying into this crappy coaching staff.

I'm sure Riley would act the same way if he went 12-0 and was fired. Bo was a spiteful prick and trashed all the recruiting materials on the way out the door. Per Sam, it sounded like Solich and staff did similar. The AD doing the change has a lot to do with things and how well they go.

 

[timnsun]

Yea that's pretty much how it went on the boards too. About 50/50. You can't blame many players revolting for firing a 9 win coach for a 6 win coach. WE just didn't listen to them real well. Instead we blamed them for not buying in. That's what always peeved me. Posters calling out the players for not buying into this crappy coaching staff.

I don’t want to get into a debate about this, but was it wrong to have the expectation that these players would give the coaches a chance?

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

I don’t want to get into a debate about this, but was it wrong to have the expectation that these players would give the coaches a chance?

No, just as it isn't wrong to expect new coaches to do their jobs well enough that players want to buy in, regardless of the players' prior experience. Again, that's why you hire new coaches...to do the job better than the last coaches.

 

[Antwill]

Judging from this message board, the fans are ready to unify behind Frost more than they have been in a LONG time. Really, probably since TO was the coach.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Are we positive no players are pissed Riley was fired?

Frankly I don't think it's a big deal, but I think it was overblown with Riley.
Riley has definitely handled the situation far better than bo.
But there is player buy in transition wth every coaching change.
We already have kids pledging allegiance to former assistants and talking about going pro and transferring. You telling me if they stay they'll be just fine and dandy from day 1?

Give riley credit as I did in my post conference thread. But let's also not pretend there aren't mental issues the next staff will deal with, including effort attitude and mentality.

 

[timnsun]

No, just as it isn't wrong to expect new coaches to do their jobs well enough that players want to buy in, regardless of the players' prior experience. Again, that's why you hire new coaches...to do the job better than the last coaches.

Probably a bi of chicken and egg, in my opinion... if there wasn’t Buy in from the start, that led to the 6-7 start. If they had bought in, the record could have been completely different. Instead of 19-19 it could have been much better.

I know coaching was suspect as well and contributed to those defeats, but with 4 losses at the end of games, if the players had greater Buy in we win more than we lose.

It’s a both and I guess. And it doesn’t matter. We are getting Frost now it appears and things are looking up for the future.

 

[Harry Caray]

Personally think it's 50/50 at best if Bray is here next year. Seems to be handling with class as did his boss. Helps that he knows moos too. At any rate he should get a good recommendation for a what ever his next gig is

I doubt Bray will be retained, Frost will likely bring Barrett Ruud to coach LBs.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

I'm sure Riley would act the same way if he went 12-0 and was fired. Bo was a spiteful prick and trashed all the recruiting materials on the way out the door. Per Sam, it sounded like Solich and staff did similar. The AD doing the change has a lot to do with things and how well they go.

If the recruiting materials are the intellectual property of the coach what's the problem?

 

[redfanusa]

Guess what? Players in the NFL sometimes have crappy coaches. If they choose to slack off, they're going to be on the unemployment line before training camp is over. Sometimes you have to find the motivation within yourself.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I don’t want to get into a debate about this, but was it wrong to have the expectation that these players would give the coaches a chance?

To this guy, yes. He is just a puppet

 

[Woodguy79]

If the recruiting materials are the intellectual property of the coach what's the problem?

First off, they're NOT. He/no coach owns the University's history, records, photographs, revruit's & coach's numbers, etc. It's spelled out in their contracts.

And secondly, the "problem?" The "problem" is the narcissist prick was/is/always will be incapable of looking in the mirror and seeing the "problem." He has a wire that's come loose somewhete along the way .. going back to college.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Are we positive no players are pissed Riley was fired?

Frankly I don't think it's a big deal, but I think it was overblown with Riley.
Riley has definitely handled the situation far better than bo.
But there is player buy in transition wth every coaching change.
We already have kids pledging allegiance to former assistants and talking about going pro and transferring. You telling me if they stay they'll be just fine and dandy from day 1?

Give riley credit as I did in my post conference thread. But let's also not pretend there aren't mental issues the next staff will deal with, including effort attitude and mentality.

It is a non-factor, according to the experts. That cannot be a pre-excuse because it is not valid. Just look around this thread.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

If the recruiting materials are the intellectual property of the coach what's the problem?

It shows that the coach only thinks about himself, and never actually cared about the kids playing for him, or the ones he was recruiting. If he puts himself above giving HIGH SCHOOLERS a shot at a big future, it is a disgusting act by a childish "man".

 

[huskerfan1414]

It is a non-factor, according to the experts. That cannot be a pre-excuse because it is not valid. Just look around this thread.

I agree, I think it's normal and not an excuse. Every new staff deals with it.
Just amuses me what some posters say now.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I agree, I think it's normal and not an excuse. Every new staff deals with it.
Just amuses me what some posters say now.

Just agreeing with the experts.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Just agreeing with the experts.

Why not agree with them last time?

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Why not agree with them last time?

Oh I don't know... because I have eyes and ears and a basic understanding of human beings.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

Players aren't stupid. Three years ago they just won nine games for a number of years, saw a coach get fired, and then get stuck with guys who couldn't coach themselves out of a wet paper bag. The practices were undisciplined, accountability was lacking, and especially in that first year, the coaches weren't the type who could easily connect with the kids.

Now, everyone knows this last round of coaches simply didn't have what it takes to be winners. Now we are getting a winner who just led his team to an undefeated season. And it seems like he and his staff relate well to the players. Why would there be a "Riley contingent" of players this time around?

 

[TarheelHuskerFan_rivals]

I think Frost can turn the attitude and overall demeanor of the team pretty quickly. It's hard to go 0-12. You know that UCF team he took over had some serious issues. Physically and mentally

 

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

Players aren't stupid. Three years ago they just won nine games for a number of years, saw a coach get fired, and then get stuck with guys who couldn't coach themselves out of a wet paper bag. The practices were undisciplined, accountability was lacking, and especially in that first year, the coaches weren't the type who could easily connect with the kids.

No, players aren't stupid, but they can be immature, uninformed and see only what they want to see. Same goes for old guys like me BTW. Any player brought up with decency and manners had to understand, if only a little that it wasn't just the blowouts, it was the disrespect Bo had for the fans, university and media. You don't have to be stupid to get conditioned with the Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

It shows that the coach only thinks about himself, and never actually cared about the kids playing for him, or the ones he was recruiting. If he puts himself above giving HIGH SCHOOLERS a shot at a big future, it is a disgusting act by a childish "man".

gotta call BS on that one. If a kid wants to come to Nebraska they are easy to reach.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

No, players aren't stupid, but they can be immature, uninformed and see only what they want to see. Same goes for old guys like me BTW. Any player brought up with decency and manners had to understand, if only a little that it wasn't just the blowouts, it was the disrespect Bo had for the fans, university and media. You don't have to be stupid to get conditioned with the Stockholm Syndrome.

True...but the issue was who they replaced Bo with. Riley was a .500 coach who was soft. If Frost had followed Pelini (and if he had the experience he has now) there would not have been those issues.

 

[Headcard]

Yea that's pretty much how it went on the boards too. About 50/50. You can't blame many players revolting for firing a 9 win coach for a 6 win coach. WE just didn't listen to them real well. Instead we blamed them for not buying in. That's what always peeved me. Posters calling out the players for not buying into this crappy coaching staff.

What a load of bull. Can’t blame the players for revolting? Whining like babies isn’t going to bring the old staff back, either get on board or get the hell out. Players are always expected to buy in. It’s not optional.

 

[RedMyMind]

True...but the issue was who they replaced Bo with. Riley was a .500 coach who was soft. If Frost had followed Pelini (and if he had the experience he has now) there would not have been those issues.

I'm not so sure. It would have been rocky nonetheless in my opinion. Whoever Eichorst hired, I'm sure there would have been animosity towards the new coaching staff.

I'm glad we had these three years to calm the waters and get the new Admin, thus giving Frost a fresh start.

 

[coachDubs]

Hmmm, weird as I remember telling people about this back in December 2014-April 2015 (ish). Some folks are damn lucky the board archives don't go that far back.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

gotta call BS on that one. If a kid wants to come to Nebraska they are easy to reach.

Oh. Ok. So it's cool that No torched them to try and make himself feel better. You keep worshiping that idol... a JV idol at that

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

What a load of bull. Can’t blame the players for revolting? Whining like babies isn’t going to bring the old staff back, either get on board or get the hell out. Players are always expected to buy in. It’s not optional.

It is to Blo's guys, and the weak-minded clowns like this that actually bought the crap he was selling to pit everyone against him.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

What a load of bull. Can’t blame the players for revolting? Whining like babies isn’t going to bring the old staff back, either get on board or get the hell out. Players are always expected to buy in. It’s not optional.

Sweet. An 18 year old kid comes to a school that is winning a lot of games and plays for a coach he loves for a couple of years. The locker room is generally supportive of the coach even if all would like to win championships. Then an AD who cares more about energy buses than winning not only cans the one coach but also brings in a new coach who is barely .500. He then proves himself to be incompetent from his first game on.

And then fans say, "You're expected to buy in. It's not optional" when all of us know it's a complete joke. How do you buy into that?

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Sweet. An 18 year old kid comes to a school that is winning a lot of games and plays for a coach he loves for a couple of years. The locker room is generally supportive of the coach even if all would like to win championships. Then an AD who cares more about energy buses than winning not only cans the one coach but also brings in a new coach who is barely .500. He then proves himself to be incompetent from his first game on.

And then fans say, "You're expected to buy in. It's not optional" when all of us know it's a complete joke. How do you buy into that?

Another "new" poster that thinks the JV coach nobody will touch with a 10 foot pole is a God, because he can't think for himself. A dime a dozen.

 

[timnsun]

Sweet. An 18 year old kid comes to a school that is winning a lot of games and plays for a coach he loves for a couple of years. The locker room is generally supportive of the coach even if all would like to win championships. Then an AD who cares more about energy buses than winning not only cans the one coach but also brings in a new coach who is barely .500. He then proves himself to be incompetent from his first game on.

And then fans say, "You're expected to buy in. It's not optional" when all of us know it's a complete joke. How do you buy into that?

If the buy in happens at the start, the coach would have had a better record.

On the other hand, if the coach coached better, he would have had a better record.

It’s both/and... if coaches don’t have an excuse for their coaching (and they don’t) then please don’t excuse players for not buying in.