when are we ever gonna get a true small forward again i hate 3 guard lineups like the last two years it helps offense but kills the defense look what jackson and deng have done to us last 2 games if your gonna play it your gonna have to play zone against teams that have big small forwards.
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Jared Vanderbilt just committed and is a SF all the way. Not a great shooter but a long, athletic SF.
i hope we get kevin knox hes more of a true 3
How so ? Knox is better offensively but Vanderbilt is more mobile and better equipped defensively . Your concern was centered around defense , the first response solved the problem yet you rejected that . Why?
We missed on the one that would have been perfect. John Petty. Just watched him play 4 games down here and was the best player i saw. And this includes Bamba, Green,Trayvon Duval, Knox and a bunch more
UK isn’t landing small forwards who have guard skills. There’s only about one or two of them per class, and they’re always in the highest demand. UK gets close, but is often going up against Duke and Kansas for these guys, and both of those programs have a built-in momentum at that position that UK lacks.
Cal sells: MKG, Lyles.
Self sells: Wiggins, Oubre, and now Josh Jackson
K sells: Hill, Deng, Parker, Winslow, Ingram, and now Tatum.
That’s a damn hard scenario for UK to go up against. It’s precisely the same scenario Self and K have traditionally faced when facing UK for guards and true interior players.
All it takes is for UK to land one of those guys and Cal will sell it all day. Right now, however, he hasn’t overcome the machine that is Duke and Kansas at small forward. I’m okay with that, though, as UK has dominated the other four positions and still manages to land hybrid three men like Lyles, Washington, and Vanderbilt.
It is not playing with 3 guards, it is the type of defense Cal makes them play. Villinova won a NC last year with 3 guards.
The only thing Knox does better than Vanderbilt is shoot the ball.
It just so happens shooting is most of yals crack right now and it's got you phiening
It just so happens shooting is most of yals crack right now and it's got you phiening
No he want , he will be at Carolina duke doesn't get everyone.
Why would he want to go to UNC** ? The NCAA is going to come down on you guys for all of your cheating ways.
Come on guy. YoU guys are about to get the long dick of justice
We have two point guards right now who can't shoot. I find it refreshing that this kid is 6'8 and athletic as ****.
Yeah, let's tell him thanks but no thanks. Honest to goodness don't understand why people aren't elated with this kid. When Cal is gone and UK is fighting for the next Sheray Thomas or Michael Coury, I hope these folks are happy then.
No one remembers MKG.
Half of those Duke guys played the 4 in college. Tatum is probably going to play some 4, if not a majority.
Oubre played a decent amount of 4 at Kansas. Jackson might be thrust into the role of a 4 this year as well.
And almost all of them have flourished in the Duke, despite some of them playing the 4. That's what matters to these potential recruits. They see the track record. There's no reason to downplay it. Duke especially has done well with their small forwards (and is why they keep landing them). One could make a case of Kansas not doing that well with some of their wings, however.
Well four posts in he has a thread having no idea that we just got Vanderbilt who is a 3 but knows he wants Knox more , all this right after Vanderbilt signs . Is told Vanderbilt will address the defensive concerns he raised and yet still wants Knox , I'm calling bs on the whole thing .
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Vanderbikt is a stud sf pretty pumped we landed him. I can see Knox more of a 4 and Cal might of sold him on it all ready!! We have Cal!
This I have been saying that it was us and Carolina now that we got Vanderbilt NC probably has the inside track except the for the big ax over their head
This sums it up pretty well in my opinion. I think you guys recruit 1s, 2s, 4s and 5s no problem. I feel like it's at the point where offensive 3s haven't seen one really stand out at UK so they tend to look elsewhere. With Duke I think we recruit 1-4 with no problem. But we struggle to land a true elite defensive 5. That's why I don't see Duke landing Bamba. Duke's never really had a guy like that and UK lands those guys in spades, Bamba knows he can go to UK and Cal can just plug him into the AD, Noel, WCS and so on and he knows he can shine.
first let me say when i said i wanted knox i wasnt putting jared down i think we could use both im happy with any kid coach gets
Before the Vanderbilt commit UK and UNC were the 2 leaders. Despite what some would have you to believe Duke was much farther down the list.
Nope Knox wasn't likely when we added PJ and now he is totally not likely as we have 2 other commits from similar players. Vanderbilt is as true of SF as you will see. And PJ is a combo like lyles and WG.
This is all true but Vanderbilt has a pg handle and I would consider that a guard's skills. Hell I expect Vanderbilt to at worst be 2nd in assists next season as that kid can pass like no ones business. But Vanderbilt is the first true true SF ( NBA SF as Young was a college SF) since MKG.
Yeah , that's the only reason Knox is rated 7-9 and Vanderbilt I rated 19-22 . NOT !