Slive reprimands Kiffin...

[TheBigBadDawg]

Any word on a pending reprimand for Dan?

 

[TheBigBadDawg]

Any word on a pending reprimand for Dan?

 

[therightway]

nm

 

[TheBigBadDawg]

I suppose so. I guess UT had problems of their own though. I knew Kiffin had complained about the officiating, but I didn't realize he had basically dared Slive to reprimand him...

"I'm sure we'll get one of those letters that really means nothing as Bobby got last week, but Florida and Alabama live on," Kiffin said.

I don't really like Lane, but I kind of like this move.

 

[therightway]

I would have to agree with this call because the clock said 0:00 but the argument was that the play was still going on.

 

[615dawg]

If you line up for a hail mary with a second on the clock, the game doesn't end when the clock hits 0:00 . Kiffin has a point. I hope something keeps coming up every week. The nation is starting to see the crap we have put up with for years as far as officiating.

It did not cost them the game, but it did cost them a chance at a 29-yard FG to win the game.

 

[dawgstudent]

if they threw a flag on that play. Not throwing a flag on that particular play is common sense. It was pure emotion from Cody rather than showboating.

 

[jacksonreb1]

blocked and down which it was when cody took off his helmet. play and game were over.

 

[615dawg]

I just hate Alabama and want them to lose every game.

 

[dawgstudent]

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[lawdawg02]

leon lett say that the ball isn't dead until someone touches it. the defense can recover and advance or the offense can recover in the backfield or down it if it is past the LOS. i think.

 

[615dawg]

DS is right, a flag could have been thrown but it would have been more controversial than not throwing it. Plus, that flag would have been against Alabama, therefore against SEC rule 12.4.6 = There should be no penalty assessed to Alabama when it is possible that such penalty will result in a loss by Alabama.

 

[jacksonreb1]

the ball being across the scrimmage line or not is that IF it stays behind the line and is recovered by the kicking team and IF it wasn't 4th down or time expired they could retain possession and rekick. . it was 4th down (i think) and more importantly time had expired. ball position re the line of scrimmage didn't matter

 

[jacksonreb1]

frankly blocked kicks generally are covered so quickly by somebody that i would think so. the pics of cody running off are well beyond where he blocked the ball so i would think it had been covered. somebody may know otherwise.

 

[Jack At Shelter]

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[RebelBruiser]

leon lett say that the ball isn't dead until someone touches it. the defense can recover and advance or the offense can recover in the backfield or down it if it is past the LOS. i think.

Yes, that's the way it works. If the ball stays in the backfield, it is live, and the offense can pick it up and run with it. If the ball advances past the line of scrimmage, it's like a punt, and if no one touches the ball, the official blows the play dead.

 

[bulldogbaja]

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[dawgstudent]

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[8dog]

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[lawdawg02]

and after cody blocked it, you could see the ball on the field, and no one was running to down it. cody sprinted (cough) to the sideline and removed the helmet. i think it was close, but if the ball wasn't touched before he removed his helmet, it could have been a penalty.

i think it would've been a terrible call, but is it one you have to make? selective enforcement? i don't know.

 

[Shmuley]

This is from the official response by Charles Bloom, SEC Associate Commissioner:

<font size="2">For the record Charles Bloom (SEC Associate Commissioner of Media Relations) did respond on the issue late Saturday evening.

This is the direct quote from that response:
"The foul for taking the helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul. That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."
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[seshomoru]

The unsportsman like conduct, if called on Cody, although a live ball foul, would have been treated as a dead ball foul. At worst, Bama would have gotten the ball, been penalized 15 yards, then trotted out and taken a knee on an untimed down.

 

[seshomoru]

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[jacksonreb1]

kicking team does "recover' the blocked kick, they can't be "down" when they gain control. i would be curious since we're having this discussion......was the ball recovered and being "advanced" or was it covered on the ground in which case the play is dead or was it still rolling around all by its lonesome???.......anybody know for sure.?

 

[615dawg]

I feel like I am Verne Lundquist in his "incomplete pass" moment.

 

[jacksonreb1]

has to pick it up. not fall on it. if that happened then the play would not have been ruled dead and the whistle blown and mount cody would have been looking for somebody to squat on instead of running off. generally in that sort of scrum the ball is just covered.

 

[jacksonreb1]

1. the rules official says since game over no penalty would be assessed anyway and
2. MOST IMPORTANTLY...someone quoted the sec rule against any call that would cost bama a game.....that's the clincher

 

[8dog]

you said the only difference between it being beyond and behind the LOS was that TN could recover and replay a down if there was time. But that's not correct, they could've picked it up and run. Something they couldn't do if it were kicked beyond the line of scrimmage.

 

[jacksonreb1]

comments were not entirely complete and correct. LOL what i meant was the only diff is that tn could have gained possession whereas if it crossed the line of scrim, even if they covered it it would have been bama's ball. now once it was in tn possession they can do whatever they want to as the "possessor"..........and being from east tn, there is no end to the possibilities of what they might do with it.........................................