Do you know where our good players came from this year?
Skyy Clark Decommits
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Well, I'm going to assume that you're not trolling like the other poster said. We all don't have to have the same opinions. But I'll ask you if to start this season you would have rather had 5-star talent (Collins) or not good enough for the next level (Tshiebwe)?
He’s subtly referring to all the 5 stars his Dukies get while taking yet another shot at UK.
They are the biggest draw get the hell over it. They are a national brand, good lord. Like ND in football. Doesn't mean I like ND. They will never have the most history then us. Or a better fan base, they can't never get to 8 titles. But they are the biggest name to most people overall in American. Dang your dumb af. I shouldn't have to keep going over this to a hand full of you.
That's one example. Overall you'd be crazy not taken 5 star recruits over leftovers
Oh no. I’m on ignore from the fella trying to be nasty for no reason. My night is ruined.
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I never said that player was still not transferring. I said I'd bench him and play others in that particular game and then complimented him for playing well in a game. Nowhere is that walking back that I've been told he's gone at year's end. Never did I say I wanted him to transfer either. I like Hopkins as a player and always have but have been told he's gone after the year. That remains to be what I've been told and trust who said it.
As for Clark. I've stated my piece and was correct. It's not like everyone else was hinting it was even possible. It's okay to admit someone did know something and also acknowledge that person doesn't think they know more than anyone else.
I would assume Kentucky has heard from a few and knows things we don't know. Things don't get out as much as they used to which is a great thing (we know why) and with portal/transfer or even guys who get out of Letters of Intent it's often quiet until it's about to happen.
Only comment on things I know or have been told and don't know anything on this front at this time.
Livingston is more of a 3 and Toppin a 4.
I mean all these other sec teams get players for 6/7 years, why not mintz back for another year????
So you refer to 5 of our players here as leftovers? UNCcheat flat took the souls of all Duke fans and ate them while they watched last night. LoL!
Clark obviously doesn’t think he can cut it at UK, Vaya Con Dios . As for next years class it really will depend on what Sharpe does, if he leaves this will definitely be Cals worst recruiting class, if we have the usual mass exodus we are in trouble, if Wheeler and Oscar return not so much, as for the transfer portal, who knows that’s a crap shoot.
Lot of issues in the Clark saga, he likely knows something. I watched a couple of his games after his return and didn't see that much to get excited about. We could be in a bind next season or we could be loaded. Cal's usual crap shoot with the portal and
NIL being new twists to the mix.
@ralphdaltonfan was 100% on point with this. What’s the word good buddy?
I’d love that, that way he could always go out on top and then when we fell a notch or two afterwards all the theory’s about what could have been would ramp up lol.
I think Cason Wallace is that good or better.
That is stupid.
First of all, they aren't "left overs". They are players who were over looked, or who developed later, or simply while are very good college players may not be good pro prospects (perhaps due to their height). Former Cats that fit that would include Fitch, Hayes, Daniels, Meeks, Harrelson, Liggins, Ulis, SGA. I would take what Castleton (UF) has done this year over ANY 5* big not named Holmgren or Banchero or J.Smith. And lets not even talk about Oscar. If you are fixated on the NBA, some of the all-time greats were not 5% players, Curry, . In depending on a FR over a PROVEN upper-classman you are rolling the dice much more, as we've seen with guys like Orton, SKJ, Collins & others.
Most 5* players underperform expectations as FR. Let's look at every 5* this year. (Pts, Reb)
Holmgren 14.4, 9.7, 3.6b
Banchero 17.1, 7.7, 3.1a
Sharpe -NA
Duren 11.9, 7.5, 2.2b
Bates 10.4, 3.6, 38% fga
Hardy -NA
J.Smith 17.1, 6.9, 44% 3pt
Baldwin 12.1, 5.8
Houston 10.5, 4.0
Chandler 13.7, 3.2, 4.6a
Henderson -NA
K.Brown 10.1, 5.0
P.Watson 3.3, 3.2
Davidson 8.6, 4.7, 4.1a
T.Washington 12.4, 3.2, 4.1a
Ingram 10.5, 6.6, 3.0a
Griffin 10.3, 3.7, 48% 3pt
Cleveland 11.4, 4.6, 19% 3pt
Collins 3.0, 2.0
Mohammad 13.8, 8.1
Christie 9.3, 3.4
B.Williams 1.9, 1.4
Keels 12.3, 3.9, 3.0
Hickman 5.8, 1.6
Aidoo 2.2, 2.6
Diabate 9.2, 5.6
Obaskie 2.9, 1.4
Boakye 2.1, 3.4
Reid 6.2, 4.5
McGowens 17.2, 5.3
Reeves 4.2, 1.1
Only 3 of those 28 who have played have been "Elite".
5 more have been quite good (Duren, Chandler, Tyty, Mohammad, McGowens).
11 more have been good enough to be a key contributor.
BUT, 9 (about 1/3) have been dissappointing (6 or fewer ppg)
From a PROVEN transfer, you may (Oscar) or may not (most others) get an ELITE performance, but you most likely will get a key contributor, and in most cases aren't going to have a guy scoring 6pt/gm like you do with many (1/3) 5* FR.
Cal definitely has the feel of 2014 Cal vs. 2019 Cal to me. Looks way more energetic and not so tired. He looked beat down after last year(who wouldn’t).
Whether Wheeler returns next year or not, I've been saying for months, Clark would NOT be our starting PG next year. It will be either Wheeler, OR a new top transfer PG. The list may be long, who knows, it could include someone like Pippen Jr, or someone that blows up and shows out in the tournament, or someone most have not heard of that can distribute AND shoot.
Clark would have been our PG off the bench. With the transfer rule, UK won't have to depend on non-Elite FR to come in and be "the guy". Some times we get a pleasant surprise (SGA), but sometimes not (Askew). Now when we add a FR like a Wagner, yeah, he'll be "the guy".
Clark would have been our PG off the bench. With the transfer rule, UK won't have to depend on non-Elite FR to come in and be "the guy". Some times we get a pleasant surprise (SGA), but sometimes not (Askew). Now when we add a FR like a Wagner, yeah, he'll be "the guy".
I’d like to hear the absurd things he did, he’s no longer a Cat so put it out.
Whitehead is the real deal, Hood-Schifano going to IU is better as well IMO. From the games I’ve watched.
This dude is a real recruit ^ Wallace is the dude you want to have.
KC had 69/37/20 today!! Guys Kobe Bryant on roids. He’s special.
That is all BS imo. Maybe the fit at UK but why would he go pro if he can’t hack it on UK’s bench. He can’t handle Cason Wallace, but wants to try to get drafted to teams with Chris Paul, Wall, Curry, Harden, Fox, Irving, Lillard, Ball, Lowery, Connely, Doncic, Holiday, Morant, the list is long and strong. Not to mention the 2G and backups.
Bro, you already know your my roll dog.I thought we were BFF’s?
Yes I’d rather have me an Oscar, Mintz, Grady, and Wheeler then an unproven freshmen because they are seasoned veterans!
Your life will be much nicer if you block Dubya, I mean 4 pinocchios, I mean Caller Bal, I mean Baller Cal, I mean machinehead, I mean Coach11x, I mean.....well, you get the point.
This X's a thousand.
This season should prove to everyone that veteran players win college games.
Get a couple of star freshmen (not 4* kids like Clark) and mix them in with veteran returnees or transfers and you have the ingredients needed to win on the big stage.
Clark seemed like a minor upgrade over Askew to me. Cal can throw darts at the transfer portal and get an option that is so much better.
Need to grab another Grady and Mintz out of that portal, get Oscar, Wheeler, Toppin and Hopkins back and 22/23 will be better than 21/22.
I hope Cal is done with building teams out of high school kids.
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One thing about you is that you're consistent. You consistently have some of the shittiest takes on this board.
Don’t forget Collins, he could be amazing next year! I just hope Sharpe doesn’t play out the process one way or another! Cal will have his pick either way, it’s basically free agency now!
I don't understand the need to turn things into a veterans (experience) vs 4 star and 5 star talent issue.
The bottom line is you win with good players.
Askew wasn't a good player. Boston wasn't a good player.
A guy like Tyty is a good player. Ditto Wall, Cousins, Davis etc etc etc.
Wheeler was a good transfer. Oscar obviously was a good transfer.
Sarr wasn't all that good.
Whether you go the transfer route, the 5 star player route or a mixture of both, the bottom line is you still need to pick the right players.
I trust Cal to put out a good team. Cause he's done that most years. I don't care where the players come from be it a transfer from another school or high school. I just want good players.
The bottom line is you win with good players.
Askew wasn't a good player. Boston wasn't a good player.
A guy like Tyty is a good player. Ditto Wall, Cousins, Davis etc etc etc.
Wheeler was a good transfer. Oscar obviously was a good transfer.
Sarr wasn't all that good.
Whether you go the transfer route, the 5 star player route or a mixture of both, the bottom line is you still need to pick the right players.
I trust Cal to put out a good team. Cause he's done that most years. I don't care where the players come from be it a transfer from another school or high school. I just want good players.