Skj transferrin

ZaytovenCat

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You think Cal pushed him out? Because that is what you are sounding like.
Wouldn’t surprise me since he does that but in this case I don’t think so. Jones had enough reasons on his own to leave.
 

JC43

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EJ replaced Knox. SKJ's main competition for playing time was Richards and I guess he wanted more so I will just wish him good luck but I'm never happy to see a player transfer.
EJ was in direct competition with SKJ...he will play 4 n 5...wants to be a defensive flyswatter
 
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bryanperkey

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What we get for consistently starting Richards

That is the first thing that I thought of... I liked SKJ and thought he could do well staying at UK, but I would be hesitant, also. SKJ > Richards in my opinion, but never got the nod over Richards. Must have been something that was not obvious to the casual fan. Good luck to him!
 
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CatColumbia

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Not surprised. Senior day does not exist for us.
Do I think this is a blow? Yes. This proves to me that Cal's philosophy has not changed.
 

Drcats2025

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And yet you bash any poster who would of said those things about SKJ prior to him deciding to transfer.
It’s not official until he leaves. It’s then apparent he couldn’t make it here. No need to blame the coach. You’re a chump just like JF.
 

Ineverplayedthegame

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2 ways to fix the “problem”.
Play the experienced player who makes fewer mistakes over the freshman who may have more potential.
Institute a scheme or system that rewards execution gained through experience vs. free-lance using athleticism.
 

TankedCat

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hate to read it, its the least surprising player in regards to this news however. Given how the year played out, I thought he'd be a candidate for it.
 

JC CATS

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I hate to see experience transfer, but with Vanderbilt, PJ, and EJ where was his minutes coming from?
 

MWes11

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Not surprised. Senior day does not exist for us.
Do I think this is a blow? Yes. This proves to me that Cal's philosophy has not changed.
What philosophy is that of which you speak? To bring in the best talent to compete with the older players? He didn't push SKJ out. SKJ seems to be reading the tea leaves and thought it was in his best interest to try to make an impact somewhere else where he will get a ton of minutes. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

struggler

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I hate to hear this and personally like it when Sacha was on the court for the most part. I def. agree with those who said he got in Cal's doghouse somewhere early in his freshman year and never recovered. Wish him the best and success.

Hate this also for the overall impact this has on the current landscape of college Bball. Coaches are not as committed to kids and kids are not as committed to coaches. Too many ways out for unhappy players AND coaches. To many don't work through the problems. I know tons of pressure to win on coaches - tons of pressure being a UK player that takes a minute to develop. Idk - I just hoped he would stay.
 
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Hoskins91_rivals

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This was the year to prove himself with Richards being disappointing, instead our best lineup was clearly with Vanderbilt at center. Now with everybody coming back and adding another player, he would not have seen the court.
 

JC CATS

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I would not be surprised to see Wenyen and Diallo declare for the draft this week also. Sure hope PJ and Vanderbilt stay or we're gonna need a couple more big guys.
You think we lose 6 to the NBA off sweet 16 team?
 

caneintally

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Oct 1, 2002
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Eh I hoped no one would leave but I get it . He was never going to see the floor next season if no one left. Wish him the best. The he should of played Richards stuff is silly and not even worth commenting on. One is a high level prospect and one isn't .
 

Anon1679859502

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Here's the double edge sword. 4-year guys that don't want to be recruited over. Just like Charles Matthews, it isn't the end of the world, but there will be a time we need him and his absence will hurt us. But we have to get Montogomery to protect against a Vanderbilt or PJ defection so we have collateral damage in the process of losing SKG. Just get ready, if we sign Hagans, expect Green to be the next one. I can't blame Cal but you hate to see a solid vet leave.

Oh and so many on here said this wasn't going to happen and yet here we are.
That's when you fight as hard as you can in practice and the little bit of playing time you get, then he will have no choice but to play you. Competition in practice makes you better but if you have the woe is me attitude then you're done.
 
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etowncatfan

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I just never thought SKJ ever got the chance under Cal for some reason. Didn't even get mop up minutes his Freshmen year. Never heard him complain. I Hope he does well where ever he goes.
 
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CatColumbia

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What philosophy is that of which you speak? To bring in the best talent to compete with the older players? He didn't push SKJ out. SKJ seems to be reading the tea leaves and thought it was in his best interest to try to make an impact somewhere else where he will get a ton of minutes. Nothing more, nothing less.

Philosophy of player retention. Why do you think Nova wins the ship? Because they keep their players 3 or 4 years. Why did we win it in 2012? Well we had a lot of variables but having Jones, Lamb and Miller back was a huge lift. I guess you would say that Humphries and Briscoe would not have helped this past year? Oh forgot, they read the tea leaves and that told them to leave university of one and done.
 
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Untouchables22

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Now tell me what Cal is supposed to do to fix that. We didn't even recruit a big this year until recently, and you could easily speculate that we added Montgomery because SKJ was leaving.

So you're saying Cal has to stop a culture where guys who come back have failed, in a year where a guy is transferring because all our bigs came back.
I think there could be a conversation about Cal extending his rotation. Cal and K both in recent years seem to only wanna play 7 guys consistently. I'm at work on lunch and can't do the research but seems like Roy and UNC tend to have a larger rotation. If the coach only plays 7 guys the guys likely to not make the rotation are going to transfer. I'm not sure what the answer is to win the most possible games. FSU plays a full 10 man rotation and they haven't won anything in recent times but extending the playing rotation to 9-10 is a possible answer.
 

Shaudylo

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Sucks that he left though but I can see why he would leave . Then again I don’t know why some guys commit here when they are for sure One and Done type talent . They know every year we are in it for top talent so if you don’t want to compete with those guys why commit in the first place ?
 

Fawrules

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I’m not sure I am following you. A reserve who averaged 3.3 points and 13 minutes a game is transferring. What’s the problem?

It always sucks to see a player transfer, but it's only really a "problem" in my opinion if more than one of the Washington, Vanderbilt & Gabriel group leave.
 
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uk78_rivals88018

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Certainly better than Richards as of now, yes. Just hope Richards starts to put it together as a Sophomore. The potential for a good player's there, just needs a lot of work.

Richards has a lot of potential. But, pinning our hopes entirely on Richards should be of concern. PJ and Vanderbilt returning remain crucial and I still hope we can get a big man Grad transfer. Again, I understand the excitement we all share when landing top high school talent, but experience and leadership is so important.
 

Bobcat94_rivals

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I hate losing a player but some of you guys are acting like SKJ is all world and can't be replaced. Sure the kid was playing better but even at that he is a marginal role player int he scheme we play. Bottom line is SKJ hasn't improved much at all since being here and if he had of been clear cut better he would have been playing more. A hurt no whee near 100% Vanderbilt was far better at the 5 than Richards and SKJ was last year. Man you guys are a fickle bunch of fans. Were on top of the world one minute and the next moaning and complaining that a bench player that average 3ppg is leaving.
 

KyFaninNC

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Not surprised at all. I felt we would 2/3 transfers. This part of our problem here. Can’t keep decent players more than 2 years unless they are KY kids. Hence we never gave experience.
 

GonzoCat90

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I think there could be a conversation about Cal extending his rotation. Cal and K both in recent years seem to only wanna play 7 guys consistently. I'm at work on lunch and can't do the research but seems like Roy and UNC tend to have a larger rotation. If the coach only plays 7 guys the guys likely to not make the rotation are going to transfer. I'm not sure what the answer is to win the most possible games. FSU plays a full 10 man rotation and they haven't won anything in recent times but extending the playing rotation to 9-10 is a possible answer.

Carolina only had 6 guys play more minutes per game than SKJ, and the last one of those wasn't even a full minute more.
 
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TankedCat

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I do remember people saying that SKJ was saying he was in no hurry to get his moment.

But regardless of what the reality is - if you're a 5 star and you're not making headway going into your junior year , its not about blame, its about deciding what you want the rest of your college career to look like. I"m sure Charles Matthews didn't help the thought process.
 
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anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y

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Not surprised. Senior day does not exist for us.
Do I think this is a blow? Yes. This proves to me that Cal's philosophy has not changed.
What's the big deal about Senior Day? If you miss the singing of My Old Kentucky Home just Google it.
 

MWes11

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Philosophy of player retention. Why do you think Nova wins the ship? Because they keep their players 3 or 4 years. Why did we win it in 2012? Well we had a lot of variables but having Jones, Lamb and Miller back was a huge lift. I guess you would say that Humphries and Briscoe would not have helped this past year? Oh forgot, they read the tea leaves and that told them to leave university of one and done.
If he doesn't want to be here and compete, then he is free to leave. Just wondering how this falls on Cal? You think Cal brought him in and said, "you should leave"? No. Seems like SKJ wants a place to shine and get as much floor time and attention as possible, and that is fine for him.
 
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