Sipple says

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

Sipple says that Frost needs to be concerned about growing fan apathy. I agree. I grew up in Lincoln. As a boy I sold coke in the stands. I started going to games with my dad in 1965. I have travelled to tons of away games. Was in Norman in 1971. And even though I have lived on the east coast since 1989 I have always flown back to Lincoln every Fall for 2 or 3 games. I am as rabid a Husker fan as you can find. And guess what? I really just don’t give a **** anymore. My pride in the excellence of our football team is gone. Now all I feel is apathy and disgust.
My point? That if I have reached this level of indifference my hunch is so have thousands of other Husker fans.

Frost isn’t going anywhere. He will be our coach for at least a few more years. Too many millions to buy him out in an era of Covid budget crisis. So he needs to look in the mirror really hard and make the changes necessary to turn this around. Because if he doesn’t, our last remaining strength as a program - - fan support - - will be gone.

 

[bshirt73]

That's downright scary Penny. At some point, even the hard-core NU fan base will give up if it continues to lose to everybody. I still think HCSF will get it turned around but it's really starting to sting. We'll see....

 

[HuskerHackFraud]

Frost should be fired. Our we finally going to start blaming him instead of Riley?
Its about time

 

[leodisflowers]

Frost should be fired. Our we finally going to start blaming him instead of Riley?
Its about time

You’re an idiot

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Sipple says that Frost needs to be concerned about growing fan apathy. I agree. I grew up in Lincoln. As a boy I sold coke in the stands. I started going to games with my dad in 1965. I have travelled to tons of away games. Was in Norman in 1971. And even though I have lived on the east coast since 1989 I have always flown back to Lincoln every Fall for 2 or 3 games. I am as rabid a Husker fan as you can find. And guess what? I really just don’t give a **** anymore. My pride in the excellence of our football team is gone. Now all I feel is apathy and disgust.
My point? That if I have reached this level of indifference my hunch is so have thousands of other Husker fans.

Frost isn’t going anywhere. He will be our coach for at least a few more years. Too many millions to buy him out in an era of Covid budget crisis. So he needs to look in the mirror really hard and make the changes necessary to turn this around. Because if he doesn’t, our last remaining strength as a program - - fan support - - will be gone.

Perfectly stated. I started watching yesterday’s game 15 minutes late. Never have done that before. Part way through the 4th quarter, a relative stopped by to visit and I shut it off. Something is different. Husker football has sucked for a long time, but Frost has managed to suck out the last bit of hope I had for the program.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

Perfectly stated. I started watching yesterday’s game 15 minutes late. Never have done that before. Part way through the 4th quarter, a relative stopped by to visit and I shut it off. Something is different. Husker football has sucked for a long time, but Frost has managed to suck out the last bit of hope I had for the program.

Well, I hate feeling this way. I really do. But the reality of Nebraska football as a total has-been program on its way down into the cellar is beginning to sink in. It is now 20 years since we were worth a damn. And I see little sign that it is about to change anytime soon. Frost is our coach and will be for a while. And I hope he turns it around. But as it stands right now, he is not even as good of a coach as Pelini.

 

[HuskerOH_rivals315145]

If Frost hasn't figured out by now the best way to win is with a solid run game, he is lost forever. Too many years n PAC has softened his mind. Time to make a run at Klieman when Frosts contract expires. Start putting money in the savings account to pay for a coach who is run orientated, disciplined, and is not afraid to coach.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

If Frost hasn't figured out by now the best way to win is with a solid run game, he is lost forever. Too many years n PAC has softened his mind. Time to make a run at Klieman when Frosts contract expires. Start putting money in the savings account to pay for a coach who is run orientated, disciplined, and is not afraid to coach.

I don't want to add on to the "fire Frost" crowd and I think it is premature to start talking in that vein. However, the excuse that Frost inherited a dumpster fire only goes so far. The new coaches at Indiana and Iowa State also inherited dumpster fires and at schools with zero winning tradition in football. And in three short years both of those coaches have their teams playing at a high level. We would lose to either one. And Frost has recruited good talent. But his schemes are flawed and poorly executed.

 

[Child of the Corn]

As I see it, there are 3 possible answers as to why the team makes so many mistakes in fundamentals. Let me preface this by saying that I don't want to criticize the level of talent anymore. Too many years have gone by and we have recruited relatively consistent over those years to use it as an excuse especially when there are teams out there who do "far more with less" (As if we haven't heard that phrase enough).

So, to me, either we have a lot of players who, while they have the physical talent, lack mental sharpness and are not grasping what the coaches are asking of them or some of our coaches shouldn't be coaching at the D1 level at all. Or it is a combination of the two.

However, If I am to believe we have some decent talent (at least on par with if not greater than most other B1G teams) and I do, it's obviously not translating to wins over opponents we should beat on a more regular basis. In my opinion, this falls mostly on the coaches for not recognizing how to get the most out of that talent, establishing an identity, leaning on what we do well with what we have and avoiding what hasn't worked.

Speaking of what hasn't worked, the bubble screen. There are teams that use it effectively but we have too many issues with blocking and throwing for it to be successful. So, scrap it and save a down for something more reliable. That's just one small example of things to improve upon.

 

[HuskerOH_rivals315145]

I don't want to add on to the "fire Frost" crowd and I think it is premature to start talking in that vein. However, the excuse that Frost inherited a dumpster fire only goes so far. The new coaches at Indiana and Iowa State also inherited dumpster fires and at schools with zero winning tradition in football. And in three short years both of those coaches have their teams playing at a high level. We would lose to either one. And Frost has recruited good talent. But his schemes are flawed and poorly executed.

A second grader can scheme defensively against Frost, Safeties 10 yds deep, roll up the corners and wait for the pass in the flat or 3 yds down field.

 

[Fed-Up]

Well, I hate feeling this way. I really do. But the reality of Nebraska football as a total has-been program on its way down into the cellar is beginning to sink in. It is now 20 years since we were worth a damn. And I see little sign that it is about to change anytime soon. Frost is our coach and will be for a while. And I hope he turns it around. But as it stands right now, he is not even as good of a coach as Pelini.

unfortunately..... he is not even as good as smiling Mike

 

[CatColumbia]

unfortunately..... he is not even as good as smiling Mike

We dumped the old lady for a hot young commodity. The hot young one hasn’t met our expectations.

 

[CatColumbia]

Sipple says that Frost needs to be concerned about growing fan apathy. I agree. I grew up in Lincoln. As a boy I sold coke in the stands. I started going to games with my dad in 1965. I have travelled to tons of away games. Was in Norman in 1971. And even though I have lived on the east coast since 1989 I have always flown back to Lincoln every Fall for 2 or 3 games. I am as rabid a Husker fan as you can find. And guess what? I really just don’t give a **** anymore. My pride in the excellence of our football team is gone. Now all I feel is apathy and disgust.
My point? That if I have reached this level of indifference my hunch is so have thousands of other Husker fans.

Frost isn’t going anywhere. He will be our coach for at least a few more years. Too many millions to buy him out in an era of Covid budget crisis. So he needs to look in the mirror really hard and make the changes necessary to turn this around. Because if he doesn’t, our last remaining strength as a program - - fan support - - will be gone.

I’m with you Pennsy. As soon as Northwestern took the lead in the second half and then we couldn’t come back and move it on them in the next position I knew it was over. Scott’s teams are mentally soft, undisciplined and straight up dumb. It’s so easy to pin point their breaking point in each game. Have been this way for 3 years. Bo’s worst team would boat race any of the teams from the past 3 years. I hate to say it but the 4 star guys that we get are the 4 stars that the big schools don’t really want, in other words we get the left overs that are overrated and then they come to Lincoln thinking they are rock stars and they don’t want to put in the work. They then don’t pan out or they transfer.

My biggest fear is that Scott’s ceiling will be 9-4 seasons, that of Bo’s. So in essence we’re giving Frost half a decade to get to the magical 9 win game, a number that wasn’t good enough for us just just 6 seasons ago. Our standards have plummeted. My question is, how the hell did Scott go undefeated at UCF? It’s mind blowing.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

I’m with you Pennsy. As soon as Northwestern took the lead in the second half and then we couldn’t come back and move it on them in the next position I knew it was over. Scott’s teams are mentally soft, undisciplined and straight up dumb. It’s so easy to pin point their breaking point in each game. Have been this way for 3 years. Bo’s worst team would boat race any of the teams from the past 3 years. I hate to say it but the 4 star guys that we get are the 4 stars that the big schools don’t really want, in other words we get the left overs that are overrated and then they come to Lincoln thinking they are rock stars and they don’t want to put in the work. They then don’t pan out or they transfer.

My biggest fear is that Scott’s ceiling will be 9-4 seasons, that of Bo’s. So in essence we’re giving Frost half a decade to get to the magical 9 win game, a number that wasn’t good enough for us just just 6 seasons ago. Our standards have plummeted. My question is, how the hell did Scott go undefeated at UCF? It’s mind blowing.

I’m afraid you nailed it. When Frost gets to his first 9 win season, many of his apologists will be raving about the incredible improvement.

 

[BigNUFan51]

Nebraska fans aren’t going anywhere. Big Red football is the only thing the state has.

 

[CatColumbia]

Nebraska fans aren’t going anywhere. Big Red football is the only thing the state has.

If you look at next years recruits, Jackson and Woods didn’t even list us in their 5. I couldn’t understand at first but now I do. They didn’t grow up seeing the Nebraska we did. All they’ve seen is a bad team so why the hell are they going to stay? We’ve lost a lot of Instate kids because of our lackluster program.

 

[BigRedBugeaters]

Same way Penny. though I am younger then you I usually go to half the home games a year and usually one roadie. made it to one game last year. Used to yell. Throw stuff during games now I nod off. No since wasting emotions with this team any longer. You can set your watch to the turnovers. Lazy penalties. 3rd and long a average QB scramble for first down. I want this program to be great again so bad but they are so far away

 

[GBRforLife1]

You sold coke in the stands and we can't even buy a beer? Outrageous.

 

[steinek11]

I don't want Frost worried about the fans one bit. Focus on the games and the team and get some wins.

 

[Frydaze]

Frost is a coach who the Husker people loved and wanted because he was a former Husker legend player during a legendary era.

This got in the way of the fact there were many reasons for the undefeated season at Central Florida before leaving for Nebraska that Frost may have been falsely given credit for; or his total tenure at Central Florida. Looks now like he simply inherited a right time/right place situation in Orlando that made him look far better than he really was as a HC.

At a minimum, he's struggling to adjust to one of the best Power 5 conferences in all of football as a HC. He's proven he was never the Golden Boy to walk right into Lincoln and instantly make the program a title contender-- something I still say half the Husker fan base EXPECTED him to do.

In many regards, Frost and Jim Harbaugh at Michigan walked into alma mater situations where it was always going to be hard to meet expectations even if they did have a lot of success.

Can he still make it happen in Lincoln? Sure. Will he? What once seemed a certainty is now looking at best as a "maybe". If Nebraska is ever going to be a strong consistent program again they need to hire a guy and ride with him. Frost is now the 5th HC there since Osborne-- and the 4th HC at Nebraska in the last 15 years. You will never find stability or maintain it with that sort of revolving door. This "instant win at all cost" mentality so many Husker fans have adapted is blowing up in your face- it's bringing more instability than it is stability and results. I don't blame the ADs that have been there (you've had a roller coaster of them too recently) because they are only responding to the fan's over reactions.

Yes, I'm an outside in all this and that's where my thoughts come from, but if you give it any serious thought, I think my assessment is pretty accurate.

 

[GBR_Atlanta]

Well, I hate feeling this way. I really do. But the reality of Nebraska football as a total has-been program on its way down into the cellar is beginning to sink in. It is now 20 years since we were worth a damn. And I see little sign that it is about to change anytime soon. Frost is our coach and will be for a while. And I hope he turns it around. But as it stands right now, he is not even as good of a coach as Pelini.

I’m with you, Pennsy. Gosh, my wife (huge UGA fan) told me yesterday that she is starting to hate Nebraska football b/c of what it’s constantly doing to me on Saturdays...ha.

 

[Wasker77]

I’m with you Pennsy. As soon as Northwestern took the lead in the second half and then we couldn’t come back and move it on them in the next position I knew it was over. Scott’s teams are mentally soft, undisciplined and straight up dumb. It’s so easy to pin point their breaking point in each game. Have been this way for 3 years. Bo’s worst team would boat race any of the teams from the past 3 years. I hate to say it but the 4 star guys that we get are the 4 stars that the big schools don’t really want, in other words we get the left overs that are overrated and then they come to Lincoln thinking they are rock stars and they don’t want to put in the work. They then don’t pan out or they transfer.

My biggest fear is that Scott’s ceiling will be 9-4 seasons, that of Bo’s. So in essence we’re giving Frost half a decade to get to the magical 9 win game, a number that wasn’t good enough for us just just 6 seasons ago. Our standards have plummeted. My question is, how the hell did Scott go undefeated at UCF? It’s mind blowing.

Your assessment of the Huskers being mentally soft is 100% accurate. I have written the same thing on several occasions. What I don’t understand is why has it been with the team for so many years now. Scott’s teams (and I am definitely not using this as an excuse for him) have not been the only teams to suffer this malaise. Callahan’s teams folded like a tent. Bo’s teams would at least beat the lower half of the conference, but in games against good teams like Wisconsin they would get boat raced and give up. Sure there were exceptions with Bo’s teams. The comeback against Ohio State was a great game, but that team coached by Luke Fickell pales to the present Buckeyes. Games where the Huskers rose up and played smart, tough ball have been few and far between. The Huskers have become synonymous with penalties and dumb play. What will it take to turn this around?

Last night there was a promo on Fox for next week‘s game against Penn State. It named the starting quarterback for the Lions as a reason to watch the game, but it dId not mention an individual Husker player. Pretty sad when the Huskers don’t even have a noteworthy player. The Huskers no longer have any national status.

 

[dinglefritz]

You’re an idiot

he's a troll fan of another team.

 

[dinglefritz]

A second grader can scheme defensively against Frost, Safeties 10 yds deep, roll up the corners and wait for the pass in the flat or 3 yds down field.

It's what you get when you put athleticism over arm talent when you recruit QBs. At some point we are going to HAVE to have a QB who can put the ball where it needs to be for a receiver to catch it. We HAVE to be able to have the threat of a QB who can complete a deep ball and a WR. McCaffrey gives a weapon which might help us in the deep passing game IF we get him to the outside on RPOs.

 

[Redscarlet]

I tend to agree with children of the corn..
We must have some players that haven’t been picking up what the coaches are asking them or we have some coaches that who can’t get the point across to some of them..

SF has to realize now that he needs to make a change at QB and let McCaffery get his first start because 2AM is getting the job done and we won’t be winning any division titles with his play..

I think most of us knew it was a matter of time before McCaffery would end up winning the QB position..

For the most part I was pleased what I seen on the defensive side of the ball except for their 2 scoring drives..

 

[tpmcg_rivals137159]

i try to be an optimist, but not so much, right now.
scott needs to make decisions.
one decision would be a good start.
nothing will help if we cant eliminate stupid mistakes.

 

[BleedRed78]

It's what you get when you put athleticism over arm talent when you recruit QBs. At some point we are going to HAVE to have a QB who can put the ball where it needs to be for a receiver to catch it. We HAVE to be able to have the threat of a QB who can complete a deep ball and a WR. McCaffrey gives a weapon which might help us in the deep passing game IF we get him to the outside on RPOs.

Exactly, unless we run and older style of option game. McCaffrey is Crouch, but in this system, Crouch would've never won the Heisman.

 

[TruHusker]

Pennsy, you are not alone on your feelings. I have done enough coaching to be dangerous and it has been evident there are problems. I am at that point in my life where football, especially Nebraska, is not the end all. Now that it is such a disaster, it is easy to just shut it off. My wife remembers the days when we didn't eat out when we were first married if they lost, I mopped around for a couple of days. Now I sit down and expect to see a lousy product on the field. Of course, if you point out the problems you get hammered on here as not being a real fan. I was in on recruiting and speaking with coaches back in the glory years, such BS from fans.

So what are the problems? He is not developing his talent and he ran a lot of it off. I watched Gebbia last night for a series and he looked like an AA. Great arm and accurate. I have no clue how that game ended. In some cases, he created the "empty cupboard" problem.

Funny how his first year we had a 1,000 yard rusher and a very good receiver. The O line was decent with Farmer and Foster. Hung in there in several games, only winning 4 still. So, to me that destroys the myth of no talent left for him. Some was there, some the staff moved on.

Clearly we have not developed the talent we have. I still see really dumb and elemental mistakes by the O-line and our tackling is atrocious. Ask yourself why this continues to be this way after three stinking years?

I am in favor of cutting back on the walk-on program. Having 150 guys out there accomplishes nothing. You will find the occasional diamond in the rough but be selective. Bottom line is there are only so many coaches and the player numbers keep reps down and it shows in lousy technique. I just don't think there is enough one on one coaching and enough reps with GOOD technique to go around.

We are way too dang fancy. I have no idea if this on Frost of Adrian is checking into it. Adrian will not get it done. He simply does not have the ability to see the field and process information quickly. The mess we see in the red zone is embarrassing. We tackle like a bunch of junior high kids. I am so sick and tired of seeing RB's bounce off our LB and DB's like a pinball because we can't wrap up. Northwestern always has a good solid D, why can't we?

There are problems in Lincoln and they are only going to get worse. Yes, there is apathy, and there will always be the die hards. The reality of this situation stinks to high heaven and explaining it away and going back in time to the glory days doesn't fix the problem.

 

[CatColumbia]

Pennsy, you are not alone on your feelings. I have done enough coaching to be dangerous and it has been evident there are problems. I am at that point in my life where football, especially Nebraska, is not the end all. Now that it is such a disaster, it is easy to just shut it off. My wife remembers the days when we didn't eat out when we were first married if they lost, I mopped around for a couple of days. Now I sit down and expect to see a lousy product on the field. Of course, if you point out the problems you get hammered on here as not being a real fan. I was in on recruiting and speaking with coaches back in the glory years, such BS from fans.

So what are the problems? He is not developing his talent and he ran a lot of it off. I watched Gebbia last night for a series and he looked like an AA. Great arm and accurate. I have no clue how that game ended. In some cases, he created the "empty cupboard" problem.

Funny how his first year we had a 1,000 yard rusher and a very good receiver. The O line was decent with Farmer and Foster. Hung in there in several games, only winning 4 still. So, to me that destroys the myth of no talent left for him. Some was there, some the staff moved on.

Clearly we have not developed the talent we have. I still see really dumb and elemental mistakes by the O-line and our tackling is atrocious. Ask yourself why this continues to be this way after three stinking years?

I am in favor of cutting back on the walk-on program. Having 150 guys out there accomplishes nothing. You will find the occasional diamond in the rough but be selective. Bottom line is there are only so many coaches and the player numbers keep reps down and it shows in lousy technique. I just don't think there is enough one on one coaching and enough reps with GOOD technique to go around.

We are way too dang fancy. I have no idea if this on Frost of Adrian is checking into it. Adrian will not get it done. He simply does not have the ability to see the field and process information quickly. The mess we see in the red zone is embarrassing. We tackle like a bunch of junior high kids. I am so sick and tired of seeing RB's bounce off our LB and DB's like a pinball because we can't wrap up. Northwestern always has a good solid D, why can't we?

There are problems in Lincoln and they are only going to get worse. Yes, there is apathy, and there will always be the die hards. The reality of this situation stinks to high heaven and explaining it away and going back in time to the glory days doesn't fix the problem.

As good of a recap as I've seen. I'm afraid things can get worse, we could very well go winless this year. I've said it a million times, Frost is always on the defensive, he's not innovative or ahead of his competition. His Oregon style approached seems to have been a thing of the past, hell, even Mario Cristobal has evolved their offense. I'm just truly dissapointed in Scott to be honest.

 

[Rcnut223]

Nebraska fans aren’t going anywhere. Big Red football is the only thing the state has.

It’s the boosters and season ticket holders that you need to fear losing. The fan watching from the recliner can come and go, except for tv ratings

Take the money away and Nebraska is done

 

[LagunaHusker]

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

It's what you get when you put athleticism over arm talent when you recruit QBs. At some point we are going to HAVE to have a QB who can put the ball where it needs to be for a receiver to catch it.

Gebbia 34-48 - 329 yds

 

[redwine65]

Perfectly stated. I started watching yesterday’s game 15 minutes late. Never have done that before. Part way through the 4th quarter, a relative stopped by to visit and I shut it off. Something is different. Husker football has sucked for a long time, but Frost has managed to suck out the last bit of hope I had for the program.

I worked on making a hole in my fence for a robotic mower, when northwestern got 14.

 

[K_Y_E]

Don’t we have a 10 year contract with Scott now? It’s gonna be a while. On the bright side, a husker loss used to bother me for days. I think we are all now in the acceptance phase of grief and that feels good. After the game yesterday I went to the park with my dogs and didnt even think about it.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

Sipple says that Frost needs to be concerned about growing fan apathy. I agree. I grew up in Lincoln. As a boy I sold coke in the stands.

Must admit, I read this and said “I didn’t know about the drug problems inside Memorial Stadium.”

 

[K_Y_E]

Gebbia 34-48 - 329 yds

And O’Brien looked amazing for CSU.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

I’m giving this season a mulligan because on no spring ball. But the things that disappoint me is that after halftime of everyone of frosts games the team is unfocused no fire or sense of urgency and it seems like his play calling mirrors how martinez is playing if Adrian is on a roll then it good play calling but if Adrian is struggling let’s just call something anything and hope it works no go to or bread and butter play

 

[Headcard]

Frost is a coach who the Husker people loved and wanted because he was a former Husker legend player during a legendary era.

This got in the way of the fact there were many reasons for the undefeated season at Central Florida before leaving for Nebraska that Frost may have been falsely given credit for; or his total tenure at Central Florida. Looks now like he simply inherited a right time/right place situation in Orlando that made him look far better than he really was as a HC.

At a minimum, he's struggling to adjust to one of the best Power 5 conferences in all of football as a HC. He's proven he was never the Golden Boy to walk right into Lincoln and instantly make the program a title contender-- something I still say half the Husker fan base EXPECTED him to do.

In many regards, Frost and Jim Harbaugh at Michigan walked into alma mater situations where it was always going to be hard to meet expectations even if they did have a lot of success.

Can he still make it happen in Lincoln? Sure. Will he? What once seemed a certainty is now looking at best as a "maybe". If Nebraska is ever going to be a strong consistent program again they need to hire a guy and ride with him. Frost is now the 5th HC there since Osborne-- and the 4th HC at Nebraska in the last 15 years. You will never find stability or maintain it with that sort of revolving door. This "instant win at all cost" mentality so many Husker fans have adapted is blowing up in your face- it's bringing more instability than it is stability and results. I don't blame the ADs that have been there (you've had a roller coaster of them too recently) because they are only responding to the fan's over reactions.

Yes, I'm an outside in all this and that's where my thoughts come from, but if you give it any serious thought, I think my assessment is pretty accurate.

It’s not accurate. Yes, instability within the program has been a problem and the drastic scheme changes from one coach to another have been made it difficult. But this Iowa perception of Nebraska fans as “instant win at all cost” is stupid. So Pelini’s antics should have been accepted forever? Or Riley should have stayed until the end of time, even though the team completely quit on him?

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Gebbia 34-48 - 329 yds

Thats not it.
The graphic the announcers put up with AM being third in total yardage isnt it either.

We need to finish, we need to step it up, become that irresistable force on O, no stopping us.
Start wih settling for fgs, end with tds.

The Bigs a take what you can get league, lets start there, then take what we want later.

 

[Redscarlet]

I’m giving this season a mulligan because on no spring ball. But the things that disappoint me is that after halftime of everyone of frosts games the team is unfocused no fire or sense of urgency and it seems like his play calling mirrors how martinez is playing if Adrian is on a roll then it good play calling but if Adrian is struggling let’s just call something anything and hope it works no go to or bread and butter play

That is why Frost needs to bench 2AM and move in another direction with McCaffery as the starter..