Football Singleton denied by the NCAA
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Such an utterly useless organization out of touch with reality.
I just can’t agree at all. You had an emergency fill-in team for a bowl game, days after a player intended to go pro. It was a one-time situation. Absolutely heartless, and frankly immoral verdict here.
In a world of NIL and college free agency they're enforcing this??!!
We should have waited for an Alabama and Ohio State player to go through this same situation. Let them set the precedence. With college athletes being paid, you’d think that Singleton would have gotten a pass here just on an individual’s right to work and make a living as they choose. If Singleton played professional baseball and returned to college to play football he would have been OK.
I don't know, didn't Elorm Lumor pretty much do the same exact thing and was reinstated?
That’s just it - an emergency bowl game invite would never happen to those programs, let alone any blue blood.
But this specific can be distinguished. He signed with the agent before the bowl bid happened. The injury that affected his draft status happened in the bowl game. Had he known of the bowl he would have waited until after the game to sign (or not) with the agent.
Kid gave the money back to his agent. NCAA is a joke. The hypocrisy of this ruling is epic.
This is why I 100% support players sitting out bowl games to protect the single greatest asset they have, which is their health. Don't get me wrong. I WANT all players to play in their team's bowl games, but I fully acknowledge that this is for selfish reasons and I understand why some may chose not to and THIS is an example of why.
Huge blow / forgone opportunity for this years squad to add a key player in what is now a very very thin LB room
This is not some RU screw moment. This was, at best, 50/50. Schiano did a great job arguing on singletons behalf but this was a weird situation from the jump.
I just saw a comment online that RU is still going to try another route to get him eligible. Anyone know what that is ?
Hire North Carolina's legal team.
All this confirms is there is absolutely a two sided NCAA decision making process. There are perhaps hundreds of prior examples of athletes being granted waivers for even more egregious violations. Yes he signed with an agent and yes he was injured and yes he did reimburse the agent. If this were NC or another higher profile school with influence then a kid like Singleton is given a pass . We need a ground swell movement to show how many similar or worse violations have occurred and where the ruling was in favor of the student athlete. In these times it would be more than acceptable and right.
This ruling sends a clear message to any potential NFL player. Don’t play in a bowl game.
If you get hurt there are no second chances with us.
The NCAA loves to create problems for themselves and college football. I hope the kid sues the sh## out of them!
If you get hurt there are no second chances with us.
The NCAA loves to create problems for themselves and college football. I hope the kid sues the sh## out of them!
Is there an example of a larger profile program getting an approval in this situation?
My understanding is there is leeway depending on extenuating circumstances. I thought what Schiano had to say regarding extenuating circumstances was quite reasonable. Terrible decision but if this is the future, just expand the CFB playoffs and eliminate the bowl games. I'm not traveling halfway across the country to watch an exhibition where my team's best players don't participate.
what kind of money do players get when they sign with an agent?
The NCAA should focus on the best interests of the players and give them every chance to succeed. I assume the no second chances type approach relates to how difficult it was to keep everyone honest and keep money out of the game. Clearly there is no point to the NCAA playing that role that rigidly now with NIL.
The NCAA should focus on the best interests of the players and give them every chance to succeed. I assume the no second chances type approach relates to how difficult it was to keep everyone honest and keep money out of the game. Clearly there is no point to the NCAA playing that role that rigidly now with NIL.
No it doesn’t . Ncaa sucks. You can’t sign with an agent before a bowl game most of the time. We backed/lucked into a bowl game without earning it on the field.
To my knowledge Rutgers is the first fill in team for a bowl game.I’m sure they won’t be those last.
um.. aren't they allowed to have NIL agents now? I don't know for sure.. but I am sure I read somehting that sounded like it.
Some people get 7 years.. but not Drew
Do the research and let us know. All we know is it is the NCAA ‘s continuous changing of the landscape on transfers, or rewarding of additional years. That causes people to question this decision and if you have awarded others for more egregious acts here is a player who would be worthy. Am I a Rutgers sympathizer? You bet your ads I am.
Ben Mauk has nothing on him. Ben petitioned to play a 6th year and was denied.
2003 redshirt at WF
2004: played in 10 at WF
2005: played in 10 at WF
2006: injured in first game at WF
2007: transferred and played at Cincinniati
2008: denied
He only played 3 seasons, but the rules were different then.
Noah Vedral is in his 6th year. He played each of his six years (assuming he plays this year), but covid was a free year, and he played only 1 game his sophomore year.
Singleton:
2017: Did not play at all at Michigan
2018: played in 7 at Michigan
2019: played in all 12 at Rutgers
2020: Played in all 9 at Rutgers (covid year)
2021: Played in all 13 games.
I understand why he was denied, but guy played 4 years, one of them being a free covid year. He should hire a lawyer and sue like Ben Mauk did.
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I thought everyone got an extra CoVid year... so it is really only his NFL declaration and then Rutgers getting a bowl game that screwed him. That's terrible. He isn't even an academic disqualifier.
Not that you did it on purpose.. but that list of playing 4 in 5 was a common end to a career PRE-CoVid.. and anyone reading will just look and say, yeah, that's fair (remembering the old days) but now it is 6 to play 5 for everyone who teams want and who wants to play and was in football for the CoVid season.
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For example, a D1 freshman athlete, whether they compete in the 2020-21 competition season or not, is eligible for an extra year of competition. Starting their sophomore year, this athlete competes in 100% of the season through senior year. After their senior season, this athlete’s eligibility count is 3 years and they decide to enroll as a fifth-year senior to compete in their fourth collegiate season. Upon the completion of their fourth competition season, this athlete has the option to compete for one final season, a fifth year, because the NCAA D1 had granted all 2020-21 athletes an extra year of eligibility. If this athlete returns for a fifth year, they will have been a member of the team and eligible to receive financial aid for six year, because their first year of competition didn’t count against their years eligibility.
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It just plain sucks. I get it, what harm would be done in having a little flexibility in the rules?
I say we play him anyway and sometime next year the NCAA can void all our wins.