We should lose every game too to stymie the NCAA from doing that! We'll show them who is boss!!!
Football Singleton denied by the NCAA
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As any Notre Dinero fan can tell you, the new nomenclature is “vacate”.
Lost in this is the precedent that the NCAA has basically set, if you are an NFL player and you get injured in your bowl, too bad. Now we’ll see that even more than we already did. NCAA somehow making bowl games even more meaningless and killing their own sport. Morons
That nails it. People complain about kids opting out of bowls. ( I know I do) Here’s a kid who plays ( with very little practice) gets hurt and
NCAA shoots him down. Would have been a great opportunity to do the right thing.
Is it any surprise? They have a history of promoting doing the wrong thing instead of the right thing.
UNC- no sanctions. PSU- no sanctions.
Making an exception for a player who played in a bowl game and withdrew from the draft? DENIED.
It is ridiculous given the wild west world we are in right now. They get tough with this, but then when the Supreme Court rules in favor of NIL, they throw up their hands, go all Pontius Pilate and say we can't do anything to give it structure or reign it in.
I believe that only training expenses and travel/lodging for that training is allowed. I do not believe they are even allowed to lend them money based on potential earnings.
This is where the bowl/no bowl does mess him up.
You can sign with the agent after your last regular season game and then play your bowl game.
Players that are not bowling can start their combine/pro day training the very next day and players that are going to be in the bowl, will wait until the day after their bowl game.
If Rutgers new they were going to a bowl- Singleton would not have already started his training and thus, no expenses. He most likely gets the waiver. Under this very unique circumstance- NCAA should have given it to him since he did pay back the cost of his training expense.
This is just not true in this situation . Singleton was able to hire an agent before the bowl game because rutgers was not going to a bowl. If you’re on a good team that qualified for a bowl by winning games, you are not able to do this.
Agree and also why I don’t get mad when players opt out of bowl games.
This. In light of NIL this decision is just laughable. Hiring an NFL agent bans you from the sport, but a NIL agent is totally fine? How stupid. College BB is pay for play now. This requirement should be null and void.
POS Organization.
If this Michigan Ohio State or Notre Dame he is approved immediately.
Total BS
No coincidence that this denial was announced on the same day the FBI raids Mar-a-Lago.
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So, you want to dissolve the ”NCAA” and create a new league, with the same schools in charge. To create their capricious rules and mythical enforcement. Again. And you expect a different outcome how exactly?
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Plus, these power schools LOVE this “NCAA” creature they constructed. They get to pretend that it’s that nasty old NCAA doing all this bad stuff. And, make pretend that they (the powerful member schools of the association) don’t actually have any power and don’t actually call all the shots. Don’t blame US….as we make all the decisions and rake in all the money...
It’s actually quite brilliant.
I actually thought it was suspicious that the denial was announced on the same day that Olivia Newton-John's death was announced.
or don't sign with an agent.
Edit, forgot about the bowl scenario. I could see where an exception could be made
Could? An exception was made by the NCAA in the first place to allow a player who hired an agent to play in a bowl game. How does the exception not apply both ways now that by playing in the game the kid became undraftable due to injury.
I feel bad for Singleton. The NCAA put Rutgers in a uniquely difficult situation, and he tried to do right by his school by returning... and then the NCAA screwed him for it. If he was eligible to play for the bowl game after signing with an agent, clearly that wasn't a barrier for his eligibility when the NCAA was in a bind and needed a team.
makes sense, I wasn't aware of how the whole thing worked. I would think the team has an attorney that can appeal this or take it to court? Seems like a no brainer
I agree with you guys regarding Singleton. If this was Bama or Georgia, we know what the outcome would be.
I would love it for Singleton to be able to come back, but let’s be real, Bama and Georgia are reloading every year, they are not counting on 6th year seniors.
Wait... if he can play now.. and this season.. and is healthy.. Maybe there is an nfl,,, OH CRAP... THEY already invited all undrafted they could use and have already been in camps for awhile.
Damn, NCAA, give the guy a break! It is not even a "break".. its the right thing to do given had he not hired an agent he'd be prefectly qualified.
Damn, NCAA, give the guy a break! It is not even a "break".. its the right thing to do given had he not hired an agent he'd be prefectly qualified.
National college football writers react to NCAA rejecting Rutgers’ Drew Singleton’s waiver request
Getting late in the game for Singleton. This is typical for the NCAA in a ruling which makes them feel they are doing a job. Over the years the NCAA’s inconsistent decisions on players and policies are well documented. Here is just another bad play in what should have been easy. Still had this been another higher profile school I would assume this would have gone in a much different direction. I would not expect any changes if I were Rutgers and Singleton to re instate him this season. Keep working out with trainers and see if your agent can get you into a tryout down the road. Otherwise you have a degree and the working world awaits as it does for most.
Maybe if he enters the portal and transfers to North Carolina or an SEC team.
Yes…would be better for him. The NCAA would then approve his waiver request.
And once he gets his waiver, he can transfer back to Rutgers immediately!! Voila!!! Problem solved.
So why was the sixth year All Pac 12 OL Jaxson Kirkland reinstated after doing almost the same thing as Singleton? He's only going to miss their opening game.
I actually thought it was suspicious that the denial was announced on the 59th anniversary of the Great Train Robbery in England.
Good question. Let's compare:
1. First, and most important, he's not a Rutgers student athlete. Plus.
2. The 6-foot-7, 340-pound tackle initially declared for the 2022 NFL draft and hired an agent, before learning he needed ankle surgery and withdrawing from the draft. --Sounds similar, but did he accept money?
3. The NCAA cleared Kirkland to return for his sixth and final season of eligibility on May 4 … though the Kent State condition was not made public until Saturday.
4. An appeal of that decision — not suspension! — was unsuccessful. (He was wearing Scarlet shoes).
Let's take a closer look:
"A request to withdraw from the draft and come back to college may be easier to get in the new era of college athletics. Players are now allowed to negotiate endorsement agreements via agents, something they were unable to do a year ago. Financial agreements with agents had typically nullified a player's eligibility until the NCAA finally changed its rules over the summer." [COMMENT- THIS IS REALLY F'D UP FOR SINGLETON.
Kirkland opted out of the draft on January 31, 2022. Singleton did not opt out, but went undrafted, a key difference. The result is the same though, as neither player is playing in the NFL and desired to return to college football. Like the bolded quote from the Yahoo article says, what's the difference now that players can negotiate licensing agreements with agents?