Since Rumors Are Encouraged...
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With the understanding that I'm reading way too far into this, 1) he's documented as spending a lot of time around Mullen 2) his in-depth ESPN article during the season mentioned only 3 schools, how USC was his dream job, how Ole Miss was work and he didn't enjoy it , and how all of Mississippi State's players are from Louisiana and how that pumps him up.
I read all of you fan writer's articles and O is listed on every one as a longshot, but I don't know that he is. He makes some of the most sense. Despite the lateral comment, Mullen has made his money on hiring mostly up-n-up coaches looking for their first big gig. I don't think he's opposed to giving a future Texas or UF assistant their first job. O is a known commodity obviously looking for a resume booster, ala Tim Brewster. Makes a ton of sense for him to come here.
I read all of you fan writer's articles and O is listed on every one as a longshot, but I don't know that he is. He makes some of the most sense. Despite the lateral comment, Mullen has made his money on hiring mostly up-n-up coaches looking for their first big gig. I don't think he's opposed to giving a future Texas or UF assistant their first job. O is a known commodity obviously looking for a resume booster, ala Tim Brewster. Makes a ton of sense for him to come here.
Mullen's backhand comment about coaches leaving and him finding out on the radio was about Manny. I don't want to say no chance, but it's highly unlikely. Wasn't a likable guy.
In fact he was a dick. Every practice I ever attended he was picking fights with players for missing assignments.
There's a few ways of coaching, I guess, but I don't think that was Mullen's style.
In fact he was a dick. Every practice I ever attended he was picking fights with players for missing assignments.
There's a few ways of coaching, I guess, but I don't think that was Mullen's style.
I dont think Mullens ego allows Manny to come back.
O is a possibility. We would have to pay him close to 1.5 a year. I think we can but Dan is going to have to come off that 4.8 a bit.
O is a possibility. We would have to pay him close to 1.5 a year. I think we can but Dan is going to have to come off that 4.8 a bit.
what i don't understand is................
why would coach mullen want orgeron? I mean he has no track record as a DCoor. his resume' is really about recruiting and SPS has spent several years telling us how you don't want those primadona 4 and 5* kids. aren't you afraid O might start bringing some of those cancers into coach mullen's carefully constructed group of diamond's in the rough?
sorry, I couldn't resist that and before my potential banning, I wish you all a sincerely Merry Christmas.
why would coach mullen want orgeron? I mean he has no track record as a DCoor. his resume' is really about recruiting and SPS has spent several years telling us how you don't want those primadona 4 and 5* kids. aren't you afraid O might start bringing some of those cancers into coach mullen's carefully constructed group of diamond's in the rough?
sorry, I couldn't resist that and before my potential banning, I wish you all a sincerely Merry Christmas.
I'll give you this, it's amusing how this board has suddenly become
a bunch of Coach O sympathizers. It wasn't that many years ago he was the butt of every other thread. But, given his coaching resume it's not far fetched at all that he could be a defensive coordinator at the college level. And of course you can't have too much talent in the SEC West. So, yeah, I guess the hire does make sense but it's going to be strange seeing him and Mullen on the same sideline if this does indeed happen.
a bunch of Coach O sympathizers. It wasn't that many years ago he was the butt of every other thread. But, given his coaching resume it's not far fetched at all that he could be a defensive coordinator at the college level. And of course you can't have too much talent in the SEC West. So, yeah, I guess the hire does make sense but it's going to be strange seeing him and Mullen on the same sideline if this does indeed happen.
If Mullen can turn 3 stars into 5 stars, he can turn 5 stars into 7 stars, obviously. If they are prima donnas, we will just have to pray that the spirit of Xenu fills them and they become humble grinding men of the Bulldog Orthodaks Church of Scientology.
I think Orgeron learned what he did wrong at Ole Miss and would be a good HC if given another chance someday. He did well when he took over at USC that half year. He is obviously an outstanding recruiter and I've heard he's a great D Line coach. However, I've been told by other coaches that he has almost no concept of what the secondary or LBs do: Cover two, rotation on blitzes, etc. He's never been a true DC (only co-DC in title).
That's why you almost always see successful DCs who were previously DB or LB coaches (Saban, Collins, Diaz, Muschamp, etc). D Line coaches rarely make good DCs. I was told that by a former SEC DC. Makes sense to me. Thoughts?
That's why you almost always see successful DCs who were previously DB or LB coaches (Saban, Collins, Diaz, Muschamp, etc). D Line coaches rarely make good DCs. I was told that by a former SEC DC. Makes sense to me. Thoughts?
Our Engineering program can design a translator for O. However, we will NOT use it for press conferences because they are going to be epic!
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don't you worry your pretty little head. we'll never be able (or willing) to outpay what the OM boosters will for a flashy recroot.
1. Dont know. But it seeminly has every single solitary om fan concerned.
2. Good point. But you tell us why um and usc gave him the head coaching job withiut it either.
3. So o would smuggle primadonas in? Mullen would change the kind of kid he recruits bc o would bing in these kids? Yea...absolutely. That..uh is what were thinking will happen.
4. If we continue our success and improve on defense, and you look at o's career to see his only poor performance was in oxford, how will u rationalize it?
I could take him or leave him myself, because i believe freeze was behind the successful recruiting during o's time at om.
2. Good point. But you tell us why um and usc gave him the head coaching job withiut it either.
3. So o would smuggle primadonas in? Mullen would change the kind of kid he recruits bc o would bing in these kids? Yea...absolutely. That..uh is what were thinking will happen.
4. If we continue our success and improve on defense, and you look at o's career to see his only poor performance was in oxford, how will u rationalize it?
I could take him or leave him myself, because i believe freeze was behind the successful recruiting during o's time at om.
I wrote one making the Manny assumption based off of his familiarity with Dan, which at the time was the best thing to guess off of for those of us not "in the know" like some of you all. Chuckle or no, I didn't think it was that far fetched of a theory, whether or not Dan ends up going in that direction.
I also assumed O was a longshot just based on his lack of DC experience and thinking he wanted a HC job. That too was a guess based off of my limited knowledge. I have no idea who we'll go get, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it's someone completely new.
Actually, he's been a success everywhere EXCEPT Ole Miss. He felt like he had to work your players hard because they were morally and spiritually weak, and tried to make them tough.
He didn't have to do that with USC players because they have more moral, spiritual, ethical, and genetical strength among the players, fans, and coaches...and since California has become the haven of Devil-worshippin' anti-Americanism, that says a lot about Ole Miss.
He didn't have to do that with USC players because they have more moral, spiritual, ethical, and genetical strength among the players, fans, and coaches...and since California has become the haven of Devil-worshippin' anti-Americanism, that says a lot about Ole Miss.
Morningshift. I'm glad they don't let illiterate people have degrees at TSUN - just play football. You did neither.
"1. TSUN didn't want O, so I understand your ignorance."
"2. Freezus likes "those cancers" among his saints, why not among Merlin's scientists?"
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