Maybe tonight and a couple more games like this against Mississippi will really drive home to Cohen and the few remaining sheep the fact that our program needs some major changes if we're going to get back to competing like Mississippi State baseball should.
Silver lining.
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Hahah sad but true. It's like Croom complaining about the D after a 17-14 loss at home.
I think he has to see the light. On one hand he left an emerging power in Kentucky for what he made no secret was his dream job. If that's true then where do you go from there if one loses said job. Also he has to have seen the set SS has grown and shown by showing Ray the door and then hitting a grand slam by bringing in Howland. That has to be in the back of his mind if he runs another clunker out on the field. As much goodwill as one would assume that natty runner-up would have bought him, he didn't win it, and the chasm between a ring and a banner is farther than the chasm between the attitudes prevelant in Starkville and those attitudes that make us loath oxford.
The real silver lining in all of this is that none of us poor ole state fans will have to sell our trailer houses to make the Omaha trip this year******
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With the conference football money pouring in, Keenum has the ability to flex the scrotum with even Cohanim. There are no sacred cows now. Here's hoping Mark is preparing for a serious conversation with Johnny Wonder once this abortion of a season is concluded. This is not a tweak situation. Some drastic changes are required.
Wouldn't say it's automatic but it could help the middle of the order. Our recent history with guys that size is pretty good. Renfroe, Powers, Duffy, all pretty solid and all over six feet. Even guys like Nick Vickerson who were just under six feet but weighed 210 or so would have more pop than the 5-8' 165 crew we're rolling out this year. As long as we win it doesn't matter, but I do like watching that style of baseball better.
I'm sick and tired of losing to them. We showed up last night with the exact same attitude as we showed up to the egg bowl and both basketball games against them. These clowns have beaten us into the ground in every single game we played them in this year. I'm more pissed off about losing last night than I have been all season, and I'd already given up on the season over a month ago. I hope Cohen made them ride all the way back to Starkville playing the quiet game and wind sprints when they got back for embarrassing our University like that. We play like a bunch of girls.
Guys like
Swinarksi, Humphries, Collins, Reynolds, Lovelady, Rea, Rooker, Spruill, Britton....???
Swinarksi, Humphries, Collins, Reynolds, Lovelady, Rea, Rooker, Spruill, Britton....???
I thought we actually played Ole Miss well in basketball. We had double digit leads in both of the games. Just didn't finish.
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I did say "that could hit it into the gaps". None of those guys are hitting over .250 except Rea. I also said its more fun for me to watch, and I get to decide what I like, but thanks
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John Cohen tells Jim Ellis "you have to earn the right to wear this uniform. We're evaluating some things on our club right now."
https://twitter.com/bcwait/status/593250921825574913?lang=en
https://twitter.com/bcwait/status/593250921825574913?lang=en
If I'm not mistaken, in baseball the coaches "wear this uniform" too. (Never really understood why, but they do.)
I am not arguing anymore, after last night. I still think our young talent is good and will accomplish some things, but there is obviously something wrong with the intangibles. It is almost as if the hitters have no faith in the pitching and vice versa, but neither can really criticize the other one because no one is getting their jobs done.
It's not quite Croom getting beat 45-0 but it kinda felt like it. We need to beat those guys in something soon.
"I thought our boys played wayull. They just didn't play wayull enough to weeyun."
If we get swept up there in a week and a half, it will be. We are 23-22, 7-14 right now. From this point, nobody expects to be better than 1-5 through LSU and Ole Miss, so that is 24-28, 8-19. We are going to have to literally sweep Tennessee to avoid calling this season a total disaster.
We will not sweep anyone on the road, so pretty much our season rests in Oxford.
I'm curious what major changes in the program anyone thinks needs to be made. Are we just talking about changes to the coaching staff?
I don't think we can realistically expect not to have a down year ever no matter what changes we make to our program.
I don't think we can realistically expect not to have a down year ever no matter what changes we make to our program.
Graduation and another year of maturation (for the underclass) will help more than anything else.
Really, just fundamental changes in everything about the program. Our team is built to the extreme for small ball and junk ball pitching. We need more power both on the mound and at the plate. Last season during one of the SECN games, one of the announcers said that just looking at us, we looked like a high school team. That has to change.
Also, our coaches have done a terrible job of either evaluating players or developing them, or both. We have far too many players who get scholarship money for 2 years and don't produce a thing. You just can't afford that with only 11.7 scholarships. Either the coaches we have need to start doing their job, or we need some new coaches.
Also, our coaches have done a terrible job of either evaluating players or developing them, or both. We have far too many players who get scholarship money for 2 years and don't produce a thing. You just can't afford that with only 11.7 scholarships. Either the coaches we have need to start doing their job, or we need some new coaches.
While I do not disagree that we need more power on the mound, it should be pointed out that it was not by design that it got that way. Cohen has never shied away from power arms. Ross Mitchell is the exception, not the rule. Even Girodo could throw 90. It just so happened that this year shook out with no power.
No one can deny that the underclassmen are more talented. And perhaps we can finally get out of using the JUCO ranks for need and rather just get a few to add real talent. Our 2014 class was pretty JUCO heavy, but one way or the other that will get sorted out over the offseason. We are big time over-signed, so if we get lucky with the draft, coaches are going to have to make some hard decisions between those guys and the new guys. I mean we have 36 on the current roster and 18 signed, and only losing 8 seniors. 10 guys have to get drafted/sign, or get cut/leave.
I know you are probably trolling, but you have to turn loose of judging these classes before they enter their 3rd years. They were a Top 15-20 class, not #2 like ONLY Baseball America ranked them. No class can put a team on its shoulders like that. Even the 2009 Florida class (who went to Omaha 3 straight years) had good upperclassmen carrying the team when they were young. Go look at their rosters in 2010 and 2011, it was not just the freshmen and sophomores.
No trolling. In college baseball, if you're not contributing by year 2, you're a wasted scholarship. You just can't afford 2 unproductive years when you only have 11.7 scholarships. Nobody ever said FR and SO have to carry a team, but they damn sure need to contribute. And our SO class isn't (Gavin Collins gets a pass for this year due to injury and the fact he actually contributed as a FR, which kind of undermines you theory that players take 3 years to develop).
We simply disagree, on both points. I think it's the upperclass that is not pulling up their end of the bargain (really, the seniors).
Uh no it doesn't. If you think that I am saying that ALL players take 3 years to develop, then you must have taken English courses at Yazoo City.
You possess some real college baseball ignorance, my man. Just saying. Maybe that is too harsh. But it certainly appears you do not keep up with it to the extent that I do (and some others, I am not trying to say I am special).
I'm pretty
sure that all of those guys could "hit to the gaps" in high school.
Where did I say you couldn't have fun? WTF?
sure that all of those guys could "hit to the gaps" in high school.
Where did I say you couldn't have fun? WTF?
We need:
1) more power in the lineup
2) less sacrificing
3) tougher OOC schedule
That's what we did in 2013 that we didn't do in 2014 and 2015.
1) more power in the lineup
2) less sacrificing
3) tougher OOC schedule
That's what we did in 2013 that we didn't do in 2014 and 2015.
Currently,
we've averaged less SF, SH, & bunt attempts (per game) this year than we did in 2013.
we've averaged less SF, SH, & bunt attempts (per game) this year than we did in 2013.
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