If there is any good that can come out of this wretched game it is that Luke will become our starting QB. Even Frost cannot be so blind as to not see this. Or can he?
Yes. Plus Betts and Manning. And on defense guys like Heinrich, Farmer and Reimer.If there is any good that can come out of this wretched game it is that Luke will become our starting QB. Even Frost cannot be so blind as to not see this. Or can he?
If there is any good that can come out of this wretched game it is that Luke will become our starting QB. Even Frost cannot be so blind as to not see this. Or can he?
I couldn’t stand AM staring down his one read and taking forever to throw it. He just can Process plays fast enough.
Martinez just does not have any "football smarts" and continues to have major brain farts at critical moments. Last year against Iowa for example running out of bounds and stopping the clock. I know junior high quarterbacks who would have had more sense than that. And today, besides his inaccurate passes two plays stand out. One, toward the end of the first half when we are working against the clock to at least get into field goal range he takes off running and is one yard from the first down line and decides to slide. No first down and clock keeps running. I don't care that he was trying to protect his body - - this is football and sometimes even a QB needs to take a hit to gain a critical yard in a close game. Then of course, was his interception in the end zone when we were already in field goal range and there was no need to force a pass. Even Frost knew at the moment that he had to come out of the game. He should have made that decision sooner. Martinez needs to sit. He is never going to change. He is just a different version of Tommy Armstrong.
Martinez just does not have any "football smarts" and continues to have major brain farts at critical moments. Last year against Iowa for example running out of bounds and stopping the clock. I know junior high quarterbacks who would have had more sense than that. And today, besides his inaccurate passes two plays stand out. One, toward the end of the first half when we are working against the clock to at least get into field goal range he takes off running and is one yard from the first down line and decides to slide. No first down and clock keeps running. I don't care that he was trying to protect his body - - this is football and sometimes even a QB needs to take a hit to gain a critical yard in a close game. Then of course, was his interception in the end zone when we were already in field goal range and there was no need to force a pass. Even Frost knew at the moment that he had to come out of the game. He should have made that decision sooner. Martinez needs to sit. He is never going to change. He is just a different version of Tommy Armstrong.
I think you might be right. Armstrong wasn't a pansy and he would not have slid when he needed one yard for a first down.Tommy Armstrong was much better than AM. Let's give TA his credit.
Tommy Armstrong was much better than AM. Let's give TA his credit.
You can see why Frost is enamored with Martinez when he gets into the open field and makes a couple guys miss. But now we have enough evidence to see that the mistakes, lack of accuracy, and lack of want-to are not worth it. If Martinez was a lot tougher, he would be a good RB candidate.
I think you might be right. Armstrong wasn't a pansy and he would not have slid when he needed one yard for a first down.
Adrian still scare me when he is carrying the ball in the open field. He is always one punch away from fumbling
Scott Frost is a version of Mike Riley.
TA was a warrior. AM looks like a tentative freshman 100% of the time. He should move into the backup role at this point.Martinez just does not have any "football smarts" and continues to have major brain farts at critical moments. Last year against Iowa for example running out of bounds and stopping the clock. I know junior high quarterbacks who would have had more sense than that. And today, besides his inaccurate passes two plays stand out. One, toward the end of the first half when we are working against the clock to at least get into field goal range he takes off running and is one yard from the first down line and decides to slide. No first down and clock keeps running. I don't care that he was trying to protect his body - - this is football and sometimes even a QB needs to take a hit to gain a critical yard in a close game. Then of course, was his interception in the end zone when we were already in field goal range and there was no need to force a pass. Even Frost knew at the moment that he had to come out of the game. He should have made that decision sooner. Martinez needs to sit. He is never going to change. He is just a different version of Tommy Armstrong.
Adrian still scare me when he is carrying the ball in the open field. He is always one punch away from fumbling
I think you might be right. Armstrong wasn't a pansy and he would not have slid when he needed one yard for a first down.
Martinez plays scared. It looks to me like he does not want to get hit. Even when he makes a long run his tendency is to run out of bounds before getting hit. And he also slides when he should push ahead. Luke reminds me of Crouch and Frost - - he does not shy away from taking a hit. You can't be stupid and reckless of course but this is a contact sport and not the NFL where quarterbacks make 100 million a year to throw the ball and not run it. In college football your quarterback cannot be a pansy.TA was a warrior. AM looks like a tentative freshman 100% of the time. He should move into the backup role at this point.
If we are going to have a kid out there making first year mistakes, might as well be a first year (not third year) player.
It could be to not throw a pick or get sacked for a loss. Just brainstorming.Have to say that Amart's long pass on 3rd down (3&18?) into the flat for a 5 yard gain where 2 guys were ready to stop him, it had me screaming at the sky. What's the point?
Martinez plays scared. It looks to me like he does not want to get hit. Even when he makes a long run his tendency is to run out of bounds before getting hit. And he also slides when he should push ahead. Luke reminds me of Crouch and Frost - - he does not shy away from taking a hit. You can't be stupid and reckless of course but this is a contact sport and not the NFL where quarterbacks make 100 million a year to throw the ball and not run it. In college football your quarterback cannot be a pansy.
Martinez plays scared. It looks to me like he does not want to get hit. Even when he makes a long run his tendency is to run out of bounds before getting hit. And he also slides when he should push ahead. Luke reminds me of Crouch and Frost - - he does not shy away from taking a hit. You can't be stupid and reckless of course but this is a contact sport and not the NFL where quarterbacks make 100 million a year to throw the ball and not run it. In college football your quarterback cannot be a pansy.
Yea, he should have just thrown the ball over his head to our wr who never is open, so it could get intercepted.Have to say that Amart's long pass on 3rd down (3&18?) into the flat for a 5 yard gain where 2 guys were ready to stop him, it had me screaming at the sky. What's the point?
Nailed it.Ok, I watched plays over and over the last two years and said what I saw and got blasted for it. Everyone wanted to blame his soph problems on injuries. Neglecting to realize the "injury" came late against Purdue and it was his left shoulder.
Adrian simply does not see and process the field well. Over and over I reran plays where guys were wide open sitting down in a zone right in front of him. He is generally late with his throws as we was today in the end zone. He doesn't know how to throw a guy open. Once he takes off he is fine, but deciding to do it and pass on the run is terrible. Whoever said he throws better rolling out has no clue. The QB guru is no genius as well. To use his words, Martine is not a fast blinker. I don't think we play fast because Martinez cannot do it. Too much processing for him
Luke is not necessarily the answer either I am afraid. Haven't seen doing to really know. He does set his feet and get the ball out of his hands quicker. NW was also keeping everything in front of them on that last drive.
There is a reason we rarely throw over the middle, our QB's can't do it. We use TE's as our deep threat and throw more short passes than a little league team.
This game was very discouraging because the coaches have to know all this and they are not adjusting.
Yep! This was definitely on the Offense. Way to many false starts. Why?I dont believe its a no brainer. I saw poor play from luke and good play from Martinez.
Then again I saw good play from luke and poor play from martinez.
The silver lining to me is our D Line and defense overall.
Don't insult Tommy Armstrong like that! If he was on this team, man, we'd be killing it.Martinez just does not have any "football smarts" and continues to have major brain farts at critical moments. Last year against Iowa for example running out of bounds and stopping the clock. I know junior high quarterbacks who would have had more sense than that. And today, besides his inaccurate passes two plays stand out. One, toward the end of the first half when we are working against the clock to at least get into field goal range he takes off running and is one yard from the first down line and decides to slide. No first down and clock keeps running. I don't care that he was trying to protect his body - - this is football and sometimes even a QB needs to take a hit to gain a critical yard in a close game. Then of course, was his interception in the end zone when we were already in field goal range and there was no need to force a pass. Even Frost knew at the moment that he had to come out of the game. He should have made that decision sooner. Martinez needs to sit. He is never going to change. He is just a different version of Tommy Armstrong.