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Adam Schefter reporting with Broncos backup Qb Brock Osweiler going to the Texans talks have begun on a multi-year extension for starting Broncos Qb Trevor Siemian. Not bad for a guy many people wanted to replace with Alviti.
 
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Adam Schefter reporting with Broncos backup Qb Brock Osweiler going to the Texans talks have begun on a multi-year extension for starting Broncos Qb Trevor Siemian. Not bad for a guy many people wanted to replace with Alviti.
I'm very happy for him, but he fits the Bronco's system a lot better than he fit NU's offense.
 

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May have to beat out RGIII or Kaepernick for starting job.

RGIII or Kaepernick would be one HELL of a change at QB for Kubiak's schemes. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Trevor could hang with either of those guys in that system. Seriously.
 

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RGIII or Kaepernick would be one HELL of a change at QB for Kubiak's schemes. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Trevor could hang with either of those guys in that system. Seriously.

RGIII is great athlete and lousy pro QB. Kaepernick could be a good QB in a different system.

Perhaps Denver will pick a QB in the draft. Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick for the Seahawks and immediately won the starting job over Alex Smith.
 

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RGIII is great athlete and lousy pro QB. Kaepernick could be a good QB in a different system.

Perhaps Denver will pick a QB in the draft. Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick for the Seahawks and immediately won the starting job over Alex Smith.
Maybe Kubiak makes the second or third round call on Hackenberg, now that BOB has his man. Hackenberg sucks so bad, but I love that he hates James Franklin.
 

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I think this was from Florio via The Score, but the "word" on RG3 and CK is that their throws lack accuracy and anticipation. Also, RG3 can no longer run, while CK can.

In other words, buyer beware on those two.
 

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RGIII is great athlete and lousy pro QB. Kaepernick could be a good QB in a different system.

Perhaps Denver will pick a QB in the draft. Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick for the Seahawks and immediately won the starting job over Alex Smith.

Wilson beat out Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson... not exactly a Murderer's Row of QBs right there.
 

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May have to beat out RGIII or Kaepernick for starting job.
I don't know about those two names but it is almost certain that someone with experience will be brought in as a starter due to TS's lack of experience. That being said... TS is still in a good position as there is a dearth of true starting-quality quarterbacks available which means there is a high likelihood that Denver will end up with a placeholder in the position while they groom their next true starter. The draft this year is very weak for quarterbacks. So, whether TS becomes the quarterback of the future at Denver rests on his ability to prove that he is the man for the job.

That is exactly the position that any athlete wants to be in.

Good for him. I think he can pull it off.
 
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No matter what anyone says to the contrary. Siemian being in this position is as much a testament to his work and ability as it is to his coaches preparing him for this opportunity. Given that there are more than one college represented through the total number of qb's in the pro's right now, Northwestern coaches have one of 60 #1 or #2 quarterbacks in the NFL.
 

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Too bad Kafka couldn't quite cut it. Siemian couldn't ask for a better opportunity.
 

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It has just dawned on me how utterly bereft of QB talent the NFL is right now. The top names in FA are the aforementioned Osweiler (who never really started and is not getting $18M / year) and RG3, along with Sam Bradford (plays awful when it counts, great when it doesn't) Ryan Fitzpatrick (basically a journeyman) and CASE KEENUM.

Somewhere. Dave Krieg is laughing.
 

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Kubiak apparently likes TS a lot. This has potential to be a very big offseason for #13.

However, Elway is pretty close to the Niners GM so my money is on a trade for Kap.
 

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Kubiak apparently likes TS a lot. This has potential to be a very big offseason for #13.

However, Elway is pretty close to the Niners GM so my money is on a trade for Kap.

Elway being close to the GM for the 49ers could/should have no bearing on Kaepernick in Denver besides bringing him in for cheap. I still think he would be a terrible fit in that offense.
 

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Kubiak took a late round chance on TS primarily because of how well he interviewed. He could have easily been an UDFA though but the Broncos had three 7th round picks so they selected their preferred UDFA QB choice imo. The 49ers will likely want way too much in trade capital. At the least, I expect TS to be given a chance to compete in training camp. He received legitimate reps during the late part of camp/pre season that is very uncommon for a third string qb.
 

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Broncos and Texans scrimmaged together pre-season 2014. Osweiler goes to Houston.
Broncos and Niners scrimmaged together pre-season 2015. Kap to Denver?

Not sure why Kap isn't a good fit for Kubiak offense. Elway was a pretty good fit back in the day.
 

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Broncos and Texans scrimmaged together pre-season 2014. Osweiler goes to Houston.
Broncos and Niners scrimmaged together pre-season 2015. Kap to Denver?

Not sure why Kap isn't a good fit for Kubiak offense. Elway was a pretty good fit back in the day.
Elway was a pocket passer with a quick release that could extend plays with his legs.

Kap is more of an overall athlete and will tuck and run more quickly.

An offensive transition from Manning to Kap would be pretty significant.
 

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Too bad Kafka couldn't quite cut it. Siemian couldn't ask for a better opportunity.
Kafka was in a similar position at one point in Philly. The injury happened at a bad time for him.

I don't really know why but the local Philly sports radio was always very negative about him.
 

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Broncos and Texans scrimmaged together pre-season 2014. Osweiler goes to Houston.
Broncos and Niners scrimmaged together pre-season 2015. Kap to Denver?

Not sure why Kap isn't a good fit for Kubiak offense. Elway was a pretty good fit back in the day.

Because Kaepernick is one of the least accurate short- and mid-range passers in the NFL. Kubiak's system is predicated on that type of passing.
 

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Kubiak's offense excels with a more mobile qb even to the degree Flaco ran it in Baltimore. Denver's attempts to fit Peyton's skill sets with Kubiak was a grind all season for them. Brock himself wasn't an ideal fit for Kubiak.

The issue with getting Kap to Denver is San Fran will likely want too much. He's still under contract with 49ers and they have the leverage in negotiating with Denver. Ultimately there are too many concerns with Kaps own abilities and his screwed up contract with the 49ers that'd require renegotiating/extending him that doesn't make a world of sense either.
 
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Kafka was in a similar position at one point in Philly. The injury happened at a bad time for him.

I don't really know why but the local Philly sports radio was always very negative about him.

Given the City of Philadelphia's reputation, were they ever positive about any players?
 

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Wilson beat out Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson... not exactly a Murderer's Row of QBs right there.

The Seahawks gave up a bunch to get Alex from the 49ers when SF decided to go with Kaepernick. The Hawks gave him a fat contract and expected him to be their guy. Wilson was so overpowering that they let Alex go without ever playing for the Hawks.
 

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Kubiak's offense excels with a more mobile qb even to the degree Flaco ran it in Baltimore. Denver's attempts to fit Peyton's skill sets with Kubiak was a grind all season for them. Brock himself wasn't an ideal fit for Kubiak.

The issue with getting Kap to Denver is San Fran will likely want too much. He's still under contract with 49ers and they have the leverage in negotiating with Denver. Ultimately there are too many concerns with Kaps own abilities and his screwed up contract with the 49ers that'd require renegotiating/extending him that doesn't make a world of sense either.

Kubiak's offense is built on roll out's, not the kind of designed runs where Kaepernick is effective.
 

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The Seahawks gave up a bunch to get Alex from the 49ers when SF decided to go with Kaepernick. The Hawks gave him a fat contract and expected him to be their guy. Wilson was so overpowering that they let Alex go without ever playing for the Hawks.

Alex Smith has never been a member of the Seahawks. Ever.

You're still thinking of Matt Flynn, a QB who's made more unearned money than any other NFL player I can think of. Flynn signed with Seattle as a free agent then was traded after throwing 9 mop-up passes for Seattle in 2012.
 

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Alex Smith has never been a member of the Seahawks. Ever.

You're still thinking of Matt Flynn, a QB who's made more unearned money than any other NFL player I can think of. Flynn signed with Seattle as a free agent then was traded after throwing 9 mop-up passes for Seattle in 2012.

You're right. :oops:
 

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"And so now Sanchez has come full circle back to the Broncos. Only this time the Broncos really wanted him. He will team with Trevor Siemian, a seventh-round rookie from Northwestern whom the Broncos believe can legitimately compete for a starting position in 2017 if not by the second half of 2016." source.
 

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Trevor ("Trevs") getting typical NU respect in this article. ;)
Yes the guy's a hack. But to be fair stats are stats and that's the only way he knows Trevor. He doesn't know what he went through at NU. Although he sure as hell could have looked at the pre season numbers from last summer and easily seen that TS did VERY well!
 

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"And so now Sanchez has come full circle back to the Broncos. Only this time the Broncos really wanted him. He will team with Trevor Siemian, a seventh-round rookie from Northwestern whom the Broncos believe can legitimately compete for a starting position in 2017 if not by the second half of 2016." source.

It still amazes me that we played a kid that could only have a chance as a WR in the league ahead of a guy that has a legitimate shot to be a starter for the Super Bowl Champion Denver Broncos in only his second year. People say Colter was a better fit for our offense, but I say something is wrong if you let NFL starting talent languish on your bench, not to mention it appears Colter was an absolute poison in the locker room, calling his coach the big boss man and throwing his university and school under the bus, manipulating his teammates for his own crusade (and yes, I absolutely feel like that hurt us on the field). You find a way to get him on the field and make him successful. Now, I know he was injured and didn't have the most success you would expect in his senior year, but between that and the travails of our offense this year, it really feels like something really needs to get fixed. The playcalling, the schemes, the WR development.
 

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It still amazes me that we played a kid that could only have a chance as a WR in the league ahead of a guy that has a legitimate shot to be a starter for the Super Bowl Champion Denver Broncos in only his second year. People say Colter was a better fit for our offense, but I say something is wrong if you let NFL starting talent languish on your bench, not to mention it appears Colter was an absolute poison in the locker room, calling his coach the big boss man and throwing his university and school under the bus, manipulating his teammates for his own crusade (and yes, I absolutely feel like that hurt us on the field). You find a way to get him on the field and make him successful. Now, I know he was injured and didn't have the most success you would expect in his senior year, but between that and the travails of our offense this year, it really feels like something really needs to get fixed. The playcalling, the schemes, the WR development.
I watched "The Hunt" video this week and it looked like the theme of it was that the coaches are shifting talent to the WR corps.
 

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I watched it too, it would be cool if both Vault and McShepard could help turn around the situation at WR this coming season.
 

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I watched it too, it would be cool if both Vault and McShepard could help turn around the situation at WR this coming season.

Vault really looked good catching the ball. Marcus needs work, lets the ball come into his body. Needs to work on using his hands better.