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SDTiger9

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@Keef
Please ping me. I’ve discovered a way to not read certain posts.

There are these click and/or scrolling functions you can use to bypass certain posts. You can ignore users too.

You can also not type TigerIllustrated.com in your web browser and there’s a good chance you won’t see any of this either.
 

lswon812

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I own a small business and have about 8 years of capital saved. It's all in how you spend and how good your company performs.
I’m sure you did all that within the first 3 years of being open too right?
Have a little perspective, how many businesses hat opened within the past 12-36 months do you think can go any extended period of time with little to no revenue and not at least have to lay off staff or close doors. I bought my second business in January and we have managed right stay open but if we have to close again for more than a month it’s gonna be tough.
 

ArmyTiger27

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I own a small business and have about 8 years of capital saved. It's all in how you spend and how good your company performs.

 

acwill07

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Cris, If I wanted to read this kind of ********, I'd subscribe to Breitbart or better yet join QANON. If you want to spout right-wing ****, fine. It is a free country, but I resent the constant badgering of those who disagree with you politically. I Love This Site for The Clemson Sports News!!!!!!? I Am Proud Graduate of Clemson University Class of '82!!!!!!!! Please do me a favor and get the political BS off the site. It's disgusting and nauseating.

**** off dude.
 
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Jtyler

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Cris, If I wanted to read this kind of ********, I'd subscribe to Breitbart or better yet join QANON. If you want to spout right-wing ****, fine. It is a free country, but I resent the constant badgering of those who disagree with you politically. I Love This Site for The Clemson Sports News!!!!!!? I Am Proud Graduate of Clemson University Class of '82!!!!!!!! Please do me a favor and get the political BS off the site. It's disgusting and nauseating.
Had to come back on and just let you know what a jerk you are !!!!
 
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CU1TruTiger4Life

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It still amazes me that people get so triggered at something posted on this website. Im convinced these people were frozen in time in the 1950s, just got thawed out and discovered the internet.

And lol at the guy telling @Cris_Ard what content should be on his website. Selfish Socialism mindset.
 

12Ghost12

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Jan 11, 2017
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I own a small business and have about 8 years of capital saved. It's all in how you spend and how good your company performs.

Bluntly put, I don't believe that for one second.

If, for the sake of argument it is true, then frankly, you're an idiot. Having 8 years of money sitting idle is not making good use of your capital, let alone maximizing it. The opportunity cost of that much money just sitting there is ridiculous.

And almost no business performs that well or has those margins, unless HIGHLY specialized with very little competition. To expect the average small business to is completely clueless to the reality of the situation. But at least that makes you consistent.
 

brohead

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Aug 5, 2001
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@Cris_Ard firstly... so glad to hear your relatives are doing well, and had minimal impact from the virus...

I think one of the frustrating things, at least for me, is that folks use anecdotal stories of either their own personal mild experience with COVID, or of those they know as absolute proof that this pandemic has been wildly overblown... but also be aware that there are likely many of us on this board that also have anecdotes of people in our life that have had a much tougher go of it... I know several personally that have been on a helluva ride lasting weeks/months in trying to shake this thing... Most current being my college buddy... mid 40's, 6'4", 215... zero underlying conditions, and works out intensely 5+ times/weekly... dude is a mountain of a man and tough as nails... He's in his third week with COVID and describes it as BY FAR the worst he has ever felt... 12 days with fever (most of which would be considered a high fever), almost two weeks of low O2 level, and breathing difficulty, which he described as trying to breathe with two 45 lbs plates on his chest... felt like he was turning the corner two weeks in, and went downhill again... back to the doc, and he's now developed pneumonia...

The extremes in experiences is likely what fuels the likewise extremes in opinions... Outside of the obvious (comorbidities) it feels like it's still a mystery as to why some shake it so easily (many times not even being aware that they have it), while others (many who fall into the low risk category) have a really rough go of it... maybe it's t-cells... maybe viral load exposure... who knows? But it definitely feels like it has led to folks on both sides drawing a line in the sand and refusing to budge in their belief.

I don't believe in lockdowns, and being a mental health professional, I also recognize the dangers associated with isolation... But the experiences of those I've known have 100% confirmed that I have no interest in contracting the virus, nor do I wish to spread it others... particularly family/friends... It just seems like there could/should be a healthy balance between supporting the economy, living life, etc. while also taking some fairly benign steps in following medical recommendations.. Sadly it seems there is simply no middle ground for the majority of our society...
 

tigertherapy

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@Cris_Ard firstly... so glad to hear your relatives are doing well, and had minimal impact from the virus...

I think one of the frustrating things, at least for me, is that folks use anecdotal stories of either their own personal mild experience with COVID, or of those they know as absolute proof that this pandemic has been wildly overblown... but also be aware that there are likely many of us on this board that also have anecdotes of people in our life that have had a much tougher go of it... I know several personally that have been on a helluva ride lasting weeks/months in trying to shake this thing... Most current being my college buddy... mid 40's, 6'4", 215... zero underlying conditions, and works out intensely 5+ times/weekly... dude is a mountain of a man and tough as nails... He's in his third week with COVID and describes it as BY FAR the worst he has ever felt... 12 days with fever (most of which would be considered a high fever), almost two weeks of low O2 level, and breathing difficulty, which he described as trying to breathe with two 45 lbs plates on his chest... felt like he was turning the corner two weeks in, and went downhill again... back to the doc, and he's now developed pneumonia...

The extremes in experiences is likely what fuels the likewise extremes in opinions... Outside of the obvious (comorbidities) it feels like it's still a mystery as to why some shake it so easily (many times not even being aware that they have it), while others (many who fall into the low risk category) have a really rough go of it... maybe it's t-cells... maybe viral load exposure... who knows? But it definitely feels like it has led to folks on both sides drawing a line in the sand and refusing to budge in their belief.

I don't believe in lockdowns, and being a mental health professional, I also recognize the dangers associated with isolation... But the experiences of those I've known have 100% confirmed that I have no interest in contracting the virus, nor do I wish to spread it others... particularly family/friends... It just seems like there could/should be a healthy balance between supporting the economy, living life, etc. while also taking some fairly benign steps in following medical recommendations.. Sadly it seems there is simply no middle ground for the majority of our society...
Get out of here with your well though out expression of good common sense and talk of middle ground. This is 2020 and there is no place for that kind of thinking!

BTW....I'm in the medical field and it has been my experience so far that all of my patients have exclusively experienced much more of the mild symptoms. I have been pleasantly surprised by this because they typically do poorly with the flu or even simply colds. That doesn't discount experiences like your friend is having. I believe their a many factors including different strains of COVID that muddy the waters.
 

CU91ENGR

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I’m sure you did all that within the first 3 years of being open too right?
Have a little perspective, how many businesses hat opened within the past 12-36 months do you think can go any extended period of time with little to no revenue and not at least have to lay off staff or close doors. I bought my second business in January and we have managed right stay open but if we have to close again for more than a month it’s gonna be tough.
After 3 years, we had saved enough that we were covered for five years. We have been very fortunate, but also went into it with an excellent business plan. I feel for the small businesses, but I also think a lot of it has to do with the pandemic outside of the restrictions
 

KennyD53

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Really? So a virus that will end up killing over 350,000 Americans in a year is close to the flu that in a severe year kills 60,000. Gotcha. By the way, when is Burch signing with Clemson again?


The Spanish flu killed more than 350,000 Americans. As a society we have found ways to combat the flu, the same is happening with COVID. Once a vaccine is widely available and better ways to fight the virus is learned, less people will die...just like what’s happened with the flu.
 

CU91ENGR

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The Spanish flu killed more than 350,000 Americans. As a society we have found ways to combat the flu, the same is happening with COVID. Once a vaccine is widely available and better ways to fight the virus is learned, less people will die...just like what’s happened with the flu.
I agree completely. Thankfully healthcare is light years ahead of when the Spanish flu hit.
 

acwill07

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Really? So a virus that will end up killing over 350,000 Americans in a year is close to the flu that in a severe year kills 60,000. Gotcha. By the way, when is Burch signing with Clemson again?

There you go again quoting numbers that have no basis in reality.

and no, even though Burch was telling our staff he was coming here, he did not in fact sign with Clemson. Bring that up as often as you want, it doesn’t bother me because what I reported was 100% factual, unlike the COVID numbers you keep citing.
 

CU91ENGR

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There you go again quoting numbers that have no basis in reality.

and no, even though Burch was telling our staff he was coming here, he did not in fact sign with Clemson. Bring that up as often as you want, it doesn’t bother me because what I reported was 100% factual.
I guess numbers reported by the government medical arm didn't have the basis that Parler does. I find it funny how many qu
 

BigA72

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Aug 8, 2005
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@Cris_Ard firstly... so glad to hear your relatives are doing well, and had minimal impact from the virus...

I think one of the frustrating things, at least for me, is that folks use anecdotal stories of either their own personal mild experience with COVID, or of those they know as absolute proof that this pandemic has been wildly overblown... but also be aware that there are likely many of us on this board that also have anecdotes of people in our life that have had a much tougher go of it... I know several personally that have been on a helluva ride lasting weeks/months in trying to shake this thing... Most current being my college buddy... mid 40's, 6'4", 215... zero underlying conditions, and works out intensely 5+ times/weekly... dude is a mountain of a man and tough as nails... He's in his third week with COVID and describes it as BY FAR the worst he has ever felt... 12 days with fever (most of which would be considered a high fever), almost two weeks of low O2 level, and breathing difficulty, which he described as trying to breathe with two 45 lbs plates on his chest... felt like he was turning the corner two weeks in, and went downhill again... back to the doc, and he's now developed pneumonia...

The extremes in experiences is likely what fuels the likewise extremes in opinions... Outside of the obvious (comorbidities) it feels like it's still a mystery as to why some shake it so easily (many times not even being aware that they have it), while others (many who fall into the low risk category) have a really rough go of it... maybe it's t-cells... maybe viral load exposure... who knows? But it definitely feels like it has led to folks on both sides drawing a line in the sand and refusing to budge in their belief.

I don't believe in lockdowns, and being a mental health professional, I also recognize the dangers associated with isolation... But the experiences of those I've known have 100% confirmed that I have no interest in contracting the virus, nor do I wish to spread it others... particularly family/friends... It just seems like there could/should be a healthy balance between supporting the economy, living life, etc. while also taking some fairly benign steps in following medical recommendations.. Sadly it seems there is simply no middle ground for the majority of our society...
P
 

Marshkm

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And so did my 87-year old grandmother last week in Cheraw, SC and my 72-year old mother two weeks ago in Cheraw, SC who has M.S. And both are just fine. They haven't even been hospitalized. They haven't even had a smidgen of medication.

Yes, let's please shut down our country and bankrupt 90-percent of the small businesses in our country. Yes. That ought to do it.
It sucks that any business is being affected but 90% is not even remotely in the neighborhood of being accurate.
 
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tigerrb

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I own a small business and have about 8 years of capital saved. It's all in how you spend and how good your company performs.

Eight years of “capital”...do you even know what that means...honestly? Because if you truly have 8 years of operating expenses saved and think that is the right approach, hire yourself a CEO and accountant yesterday
 

Unifex

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disagree. But you do you.
I’ve dealt with enough ramifications of this thing on people of all ages and it’s fairly sickening to see the owner of the sports website I go to denigrating public health measures because he had the good fortune to have 2 elderly family members have a mild course. Pathetic.
 

ArmyTiger27

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I’ve dealt with enough ramifications of this thing on people of all ages and it’s fairly sickening to see the owner of the sports website I go to denigrating public health measures because he had the good fortune to have 2 elderly family members have a mild course. Pathetic.

you're right. I think we should shut the country down until the vaccine is ready.

am I doing this right?
 

Unifex

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you're right. I think we should shut the country down until the vaccine is ready.

am I doing this right?
No, just sound like an *** actually. That’s not to say if certain criteria are met there shouldn’t be local shutdowns. Overall we are much better prepared than we were in March. Unfortunately we still have too many people with an arrogant attitude about something they don’t understand which leads to lots of totally avoidable suffering.
 

ArmyTiger27

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May 22, 2005
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Excuse me for feeling arrogant. I tested positive back in August. I felt like ****. It sucked. But this constant fear from it is bs. Sorry man but it is.
 

Unifex

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Excuse me for feeling arrogant. I tested positive back in August. I felt like ****. It sucked. But this constant fear from it is bs. Sorry man but it is.
I’m not preaching fear, I’m suggesting people respect it. The wife and I have attended the home games, travelled, and lived as normal a life as possible during this time, making sure to do as much as possible for local businesses. But I’m always masked indoors, will not eat indoors in a restaurant until vaccinated, wash my hands regularly, use sanitizer when unable to wash, and have avoided larger get together with friends and family for the expressed purpose of not wanting the virus and just as importantly not wanting to spread it.
It’s a weird virus with lots of unpredictable long term effects for a significant number of people. If more people treated it with respect we wouldn’t be where we are with it.
 
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CU Alumnus

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And so did my 87-year old grandmother last week in Cheraw, SC and my 72-year old mother two weeks ago in Cheraw, SC who has M.S. And both are just fine. They haven't even been hospitalized. They haven't even had a smidgen of medication.

Yes, let's please shut down our country and bankrupt 90-percent of the small businesses in our country. Yes. That ought to do it.

Some of Dabo's salt has rubbed off on Ard. I like it!

My question is - has anyone looked at the increase in alcohol abuse, depression, suicide, etc - and compared it to the same time last year? And looked at how many cases were rooted in the shutdowns and resulting job loss, business loss, etc?

We may not know the answer for years but I would bet there's an impact.

And I'm very glad your mother and grandmother are okay. This virus is real. I think we may be going off the deep end in trying to stop it, but it is real.
 

tigerjimp

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Except that you obviously haven't followed the fact that as of the end of October 2020 there have been 300,000 excess deaths in comparison with previous years. I guess since we're all going to die of something one day, none of these deaths should be counted, right?
Less than 10% of the total deaths. 10X more have died in other ways. Should the world stop for those too?

Don’t get me wrong, losing a loved one or dying yourself is tough. But that is part of the deal. You are going to die if you are one of the infinitely fortunate to have ever lived.
 
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