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Snuffy Smif

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Anyway, they all actually believe this daft nonsense they posted above, so...yeah.

They are all nutso over there.

What daft nonsense? The Obama admin staged a coup by arming Nazis in Ukraine.

Just like Obama armed terrorists to overthrow Assad turning the US into a state sponsor of terror. Over 600,000 have died because of it and it made 14 million homeless.

Not to mention how many died from their ******* coup in Libya.

You must be so ******* proud.

 

Southern Phantom

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Ukraine is corrupt and has not been able to build an economic foundation in thirty years. Zelensky funneling government money into personal accounts in Europe. Not to mention the **** the Bidens have been doing. Ukraine is ancient Russian lands. They will be better off under that dictatorship. You call Russia fascist for liberating ancient lands from Nazis. Remember Hitler started out with just a few people like Goebbels. So what do you of U.S. foreign policy over the past twenty years with two failed deadend wars? Also, we allowed Iraqi to keep their oil companies intact but we control it but allow them to form their own BOD. It's obvious you love your fuhrer.

Crazy how a part of the GOP has become pro Russian. What right wing show you been watching because your post is pretty much the Kremlins talking points.

Huge chunks of Eastern Europe could be described as “ancient Russian lands”. When does it stop
 

Snuffy Smif

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Crazy how a part of the GOP has become pro Russian. What right wing show you been watching because your post is pretty much the Kremlins talking points.

Huge chunks of Eastern Europe could be described as “ancient Russian lands”. When does it stop

Apparently you missed the video of Ukrainians shooting POWs.

It's amazing how many on the left have become warmongers as long as it was Obama doing the mongering.

Do you know that the Azov Battalion that the left is cheering for not only use NAZI insignia but they idealize the worst of the worst. The Wolfsangel rune that they use is the same one that the 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" used who were know for their war crimes.




 

Southern Phantom

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Apparently you missed the video of Ukrainians shooting POWs.

It's amazing how many on the left have become warmongers as long as it was Obama doing the mongering.

Do you know that the Azov Battalion that the left is cheering for not only use NAZI insignia but they idealize the worst of the worst. The Wolfsangel rune that they use is the same one that the 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" used who were know for their war crimes.






Wow ok. Keep watching your right wing conspiracy stuff. You may want to consider though that these fringe videos are 1) not factual 2) designed to manipulate you. Have a great day
 

WVUPharm2007

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The FSB just did what they always do. They take a sliver of truth (there are neo-Nazi militias in Ukraine, albeit a very, VERY tiny minority) and then take a ridiculous leap of logic and attempt to extrapolate that for the entire Ukrainian government.

Yeah, ok. They have a Jewish president, the far-right literally holds no offices in the Rada, and the formed government coalition is center left and actively trying to sever ties to autocratic Russia and join the West. Both the EU and NATO. But, sure, they are Nazis.

Actual Jewish people in Ukraine think this is bonkers (because it is.)

Do all you people do over there on the off-topic board is read Russian propaganda sites? The Internet Research Agency couldn't do better.


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Anyway, like I was saying, they are all insane over there.
 

Snuffy Smif

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Yeah, ok. They have a Jewish president, the far-right literally holds no offices in the Rada, and the formed government coalition is center left and actively trying to sever ties to autocratic Russia and join the West. But, sure, they are Nazis. Do all you people do is read Russian propaganda sites?

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Anyway, like I was saying, they are all insane over there.

Trump has Jewish grandchildren but that doesn't stop the left calling him a Nazi.
 

Snuffy Smif

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Wow ok. Keep watching your right wing conspiracy stuff. You may want to consider though that these fringe videos are 1) not factual 2) designed to manipulate you. Have a great day

Jimmy Dore was a pretty mainstream leftist until he called out their Russia collusion BS.

By the way, you bought that hook, line, and sinker. Talk about being manipulated.

Of course, you're the same guys that think protesters taking selfies is an insurrection.

 

WVUPharm2007

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Trump has Jewish grandchildren but that doesn't stop the left calling him a Nazi.
Nobody other than idiots on Twitter calls Trump a Nazi. The simultaneous use of whataboutism with the false equivalency of what the nebulous "left" says on social media and what the leader of Russia and his entire government apparatus holds as the official view of that country is pretty ridiculous.
 

Snuffy Smif

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Nobody other than idiots on Twitter calls Trump a Nazi. The false equivalency of what the nebulous "left" says on social media and what the leader of Russia and his entire government apparatus holds as the official view of that country is pretty ridiculous.

Those idiots would be the actual leadership of the Democratic Party. Not just twitter.

There is no doubt that Putin is corrupt but you act like the Democrats aren't.

This after trying to frame an innocent man and his family for treason for, what is it, six years now?
 

dave

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Crazy how a part of the GOP has become pro Russian. What right wing show you been watching because your post is pretty much the Kremlins talking points.

Huge chunks of Eastern Europe could be described as “ancient Russian lands”. When does it stop
I wouldn't say it is pro Russian as much as anti media.

Nobody likes or trusts putin. Nobody supports putin.

At the same time it is pretty obvious our media is not telling the real story. Our warfighters who have sneaked into Ukraine to help the Ukrainians fight tell whoever will listen that the reality over there is much different than what is in the media.

People are pushing back against propaganda and because the propaganda is anti-russian people are being accused of being pro Russian when in reality someone can be both anti-russian and ant-narrative.
 

~IRWT~

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I wouldn't say it is pro Russian as much as anti media.

Nobody likes or trusts putin. Nobody supports putin.

At the same time it is pretty obvious our media is not telling the real story. Our warfighters who have sneaked into Ukraine to help the Ukrainians fight tell whoever will listen that the reality over there is much different than what is in than media.

People are pushing back against propaganda and because the propaganda is anti-russian people are being accused of being pro Russian when in reality someone can be both anti-russian and ant-narrative.
What is “our media”? No such thing anymore. You believe the narrative being touted by your media and online sources and others believe the ones touted by theirs. There is no media outlet as a monolith. You’d have to go to Russia for that. Really it’s more anti the other guys media than anti-media.
 

GA EER

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How does a WV fan end up as a sasquatcher in the middle of one of the most fertile pot growing areas? Not a stretch in based on my days at WVU
Exactly. I mean in the 80s it was supposed to be the #1 cash crop in the state. Not sure if that is still true, but plenty of folks in WV are well acquainted with the growing of said herb.
 

dave

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What is “our media”? No such thing anymore. You believe the narrative being touted by your media and online sources and others believe the ones touted by theirs. There is no media outlet as a monolith. You’d have to go to Russia for that. Really it’s more anti the other guys media than anti-media.
I disagree here completely. I don't have a go to media because I think they are all full of ****. But "our media" refers to the main media outlets today. Pretty obvious who those are. CNN, fox, NBC, ABC and the main national newspapers. I don't trust any of them to tell the truth about most stories.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Where did I say that?

They are irrelevant. They hold no power. Literally zero of them were in the Rada. There are like 10,000 of them in a country of 40 million. So like I said, it's kind of weird to be "rootin' for Putin" because of those weirdos

That's like saying you don't like the US because the Proud Boys exist or something. There are only a few thousand of those, too.

The reality is that Ukraine is a budding Western democracy that is trying to become closer to the EU. Do they still have some of the scars from being part of the Soviet Union? Of course. But they are slowly modernizing and trying to throw off the shackles of being behind the iron curtain.

Meanwhile Russia is an imperialistic, fascist state run by an autocrat that is trying to remake the Soviet Union.

It's a pretty easy choice as to who to support and who the US should support.
I mean, other than the Azov Regiment being an actual organized military unit within the Ukraine military consisting entirely of Nazis, your point holds true. To your analogy, it would be like the US Military activating a skinhead regiment.

As to your point about who to support? For me, it’s kind of like a Pitt vs VaTech game. I’m not really rooting for either one to win. I’m rooting for a long protracted war that bleeds the resources, blood, money, and material from Russia. I don’t really care about Ukraine, it’s the most corrupt country in Europe. I hope they win, but like in a costly fashion. If this also has the EU start butching up for their own protection, I’m good with that as well.

With respect to propaganda, there was and is far more propaganda coming in support of Ukraine. The Snake Island ********, Ghost Kiev, that they’re beating Russia, it’s all nonsense. Russia has everything east of the Dnipro River. They’ve accomplished a ton. Meanwhile, we’ve dumped more money into Ukraine in 6 months than we did in AFG in the first 10 years. Which, as a defense guy, I’m totes ok with. Bidness is good. It’s allowing us to test out a bunch of our existing Tech in a Pseudo near peer fight to help us align strategy and development from our 20 year COIN fight to the coming hot war with China.

This war is great. And the best part? We’re not sending our blood over there to be spilled on behalf of Europe.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Wow ok. Keep watching your right wing conspiracy stuff. You may want to consider though that these fringe videos are 1) not factual 2) designed to manipulate you. Have a great day
Jimmy Dore isn’t a right wing conspiracy guy. He’s a Bernie loving socialist.
 

wvu2007

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The FSB just did what they always do. They take a sliver of truth (there are neo-Nazi militias in Ukraine, albeit a very, VERY tiny minority) and then take a ridiculous leap of logic and attempt to extrapolate that for the entire Ukrainian government.

Yeah, ok. They have a Jewish president, the far-right literally holds no offices in the Rada, and the formed government coalition is center left and actively trying to sever ties to autocratic Russia and join the West. Both the EU and NATO. But, sure, they are Nazis.

Actual Jewish people in Ukraine think this is bonkers (because it is.)

Do all you people do over there on the off-topic board is read Russian propaganda sites? The Internet Research Agency couldn't do better.


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Anyway, like I was saying, they are all insane over there.

you’re very racist
 

~IRWT~

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I disagree here completely. I don't have a go to media because I think they are all full of ****. But "our media" refers to the main media outlets today. Pretty obvious who those are. CNN, fox, NBC, ABC and the main national newspapers. I don't trust any of them to tell the truth about most stories.
You are talking a total of about 20 million viewers a night for every TV news outlet combined. This is a country of 330,000,000 so about 6% even bother to watch the nightly news. Meanwhile, 36% or roughly 120,000,000 Americans get news via Facebook every day. It's the political propaganda and click bate being fed through social that is our real issue. Zero accountability for the content creator. Zero accountability for the consumer. People titilating themselves in confirmation bias and conspiracy theory all day long.
 

moe

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You are talking a total of about 20 million viewers a night for every TV news outlet combined. This is a country of 330,000,000 so about 6% even bother to watch the nightly news. Meanwhile, 36% or roughly 120,000,000 Americans get news via Facebook every day. It's the political propaganda and click bate being fed through social that is our real issue. Zero accountability for the content creator. Zero accountability for the consumer.
That's where mod gets his news. Lauren Boebert and Q
 

DvlDog4WVU

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You are talking a total of about 20 million viewers a night for every TV news outlet combined. This is a country of 330,000,000 so about 6% even bother to watch the nightly news. Meanwhile, 36% or roughly 120,000,000 Americans get news via Facebook every day. It's the political propaganda and click bate being fed through social that is our real issue. Zero accountability for the content creator. Zero accountability for the consumer.
Much of the political propaganda and clickbait is being drawn up by the blue check journalists on Twitter and Facebook. Facebook was fact checking (inaccurately) actual news stories claiming it was Russian propaganda in the lead up to the election. The laptop? Yea, it’s real. There is a real investigation going on.

They were censoring context videos or “fact checking” them. Meanwhile, something like 87% of registered Dems believe Trump mocked the disability of a reporter in 2016 and claimed Nazis were good people in Charlottesville. Both lies.

The entire Dem and left leaning media apparatus was referring to 2016 as a stolen election, Russian interference/collusion, illegitimate President, and so on. They’re currently interfering in closed Primaries by infusing money into the more bearable primary candidate’s coffers. Yet, Republicans are a threat to Democracy.

They have been blatantly lying and misleading Americans. The whole Alfa Bank thing? Clinton campaign “swift boat” lies. Trump’s a racist, Trump’s a Nazi. Meanwhile, he saw the lowest minority unemployment numbers, highest minority wage growth, and passed 3 sweeping initiatives directly benefitting minority communities in the First Step Act, EO Zones, and Prolonged funding for HBCU.

These are all facts. There is a section of our society being led around and socially engineered. It’s not the side that’s questioning the narrative. That doesn’t pass a logic test. This means justify the ends mentality from the left is driving our country to the brink. It’s been going on for 15 years and with the raid on Mar-A-Lago, it’s reached feverpitch. You guys are crossing the Rubicon of no return.

And in case we need some tangible examples, it was crazy leftists who tried to assassinate the GOP baseball team, and tried to kill a sitting SCOTUS (most of the left don’t even know this happened because of algorithmic suppression). But, we’re the threat. Ahhahahaha FOH
 

Hillbilly Tea

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You are talking a total of about 20 million viewers a night for every TV news outlet combined. This is a country of 330,000,000 so about 6% even bother to watch the nightly news. Meanwhile, 36% or roughly 120,000,000 Americans get news via Facebook every day. It's the political propaganda and click bate being fed through social that is our real issue. Zero accountability for the content creator. Zero accountability for the consumer. People titilating themselves in confirmation bias and conspiracy theory all day long.
So you want the leftists socials to work with government to censor speech even further? No thanks. Hell, we have had conspiracy theories since the beginning of time and its up to us to sort out fact from fiction. You want more government. I will trust the American people.
 

dave

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You are talking a total of about 20 million viewers a night for every TV news outlet combined. This is a country of 330,000,000 so about 6% even bother to watch the nightly news. Meanwhile, 36% or roughly 120,000,000 Americans get news via Facebook every day. It's the political propaganda and click bate being fed through social that is our real issue. Zero accountability for the content creator. Zero accountability for the consumer. People titilating themselves in confirmation bias and conspiracy theory all day long.
No argument there. I was referring to the typical media outlets.

I don't pay much attention to information via social media either. I mean we all see all of it but I don't put a lot of credibility to anything unless I see it myself or if what I read is logical and can be verified by something bordering on factual evidence. I assume video is cut/edited so if it is interview I look for the source to see a bigger picture to show context. One cannot assume that whomever is feeding them Information is telling them the whole story.
 
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~IRWT~

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No argument there. I was referring to the typical media outlets.

I don't pay much attention to information via social media either. I mean we all see all of it but I don't put a lot of credibility to anything unless I see it myself or if what I read is logical and can be verified by something bordering on factual evidence. I assume video is cut/edited so if it is interview I look for the source to see a bigger picture to show context. One cannot assume that whomever is feeding them Information is telling them the whole story.
No question that both sides manipulate media, selectively edit and just outright make up news. I will agree with you there.
 

dave

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No question that both sides manipulate media, selectively edit and just outright make up news. I will agree with you there.
I wish it were just both sides but I think in reality it is both sides plus several outside sources with their own agendas. The Saudis, Chinese, Russians and they all have different reasons to propagandize and frankly it is difficult to discern.
 

~IRWT~

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I wish it were just both sides but I think in reality it is both sides plus several outside sources with their own agendas. The Saudis, Chinese, Russians and they all have different reasons to propagandize and frankly it is difficult to discern.
Absolutely. Russians, (I should say, Putin) were sitting back on their asses laughing at the turmoil they helped to foment. Thought they had enough air cover in the US to walk into Ukraine. Not laughing now.
 

dave

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Absolutely. Russians, (I should say, Putin) were sitting back on their asses laughing at the turmoil they helped to foment. Thought they had enough air cover in the US to walk into Ukraine. Not laughing now.
Ukraine is an interesting story. There are some good podcasts from folks who have gone there to provide aid and some who trained soldiers and I have seen one from a former marine who is trained in Javelin missiles.

The one thing they all say is that the war is different there than it is described outside of Ukraine. I do think Putin underestimated Ukraine.

I am sure the profiteers of war are happy.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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What daft nonsense? The Obama admin staged a coup by arming Nazis in Ukraine.

Just like Obama armed terrorists to overthrow Assad turning the US into a state sponsor of terror. Over 600,000 have died because of it and it made 14 million homeless.

Not to mention how many died from their ****ing coup in Libya.

You must be so ****ing proud.


Sachs is a big-government-big-green bullhorn. You’d think he’d love Obama, but he hates being lied to. Sachs twice voted for Obama expecting him to be the change agent America needs. Sachs has said Obama lied as much or more than any administration.
 

~IRWT~

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So you want the leftists socials to work with government to censor speech even further? No thanks. Hell, we have had conspiracy theories since the beginning of time and its up to us to sort out fact from fiction. You want more government. I will trust the American people.
That's quite the leap from what was posted but okay.
 

~IRWT~

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Ukraine is an interesting story. There are some good podcasts from folks who have gone there to provide aid and some who trained soldiers and I have seen one from a former marine who is trained in Javelin missiles.

The one thing they all say is that the war is different there than it is described outside of Ukraine. I do think Putin underestimated Ukraine.

I am sure the profiteers of war are happy.
I'm pro-Ukraine and admit I take it in through the perspective of a couple Americans fighters (James Vasquez and The Dirty Dozen) on the ground and the tactics from OSINTTechnical. All Ukraine POV. They attacked and I am anti autocrat so don't really care what the Russian perspective is.
 

dave

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I'm pro-Ukraine and admit I take it in through the perspective of a couple Americans fighters (James Vasquez and The Dirty Dozen) on the ground and the tactics from OSINTTechnical. All Ukraine POV. They attacked and I am anti autocrat so don't really care what the Russian perspective is.
I definitely don't care about the Russian perspective. I care about the Ukrainian people who are not responsible for the ******** their government does but who have to deal with Russia and other BS whe they just want to be free. They are aught in between a ruthless invader, a corrupt government and a lot of other shenanigans from friends and enemies all over the world who see their country as a laundry mat.
 

Shirley Knott

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Exactly. On here. I ain't going over to the off-topic board. It's like reading World Weekly News. There's a dude over there that is openly rooting for Russia to conquer Ukraine. It's like getting a peek into an alternate reality.

I wish I was. There was literally a thread over there about how they are "rootin' for Putin." I remember reading through it. It was wild how off the rails it was.
Very very confused... first you say you wont "ever" then you quote a message from the OT... Are you using those Pharma or do I need to start using them?.. answer needed from someone else in the pharma field...
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Very very confused... first you say you wont "ever" then you quote a message from the OT... Are you using those Pharma or do I need to start using them?.. answer needed from someone else in the pharma field...
The thread was started on The Blue Lot and then it was moved over here.