SIAP: Jacob Young considering Oregon?
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If you’re going to still play college basketball, stay at Rutgers Jake!
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anon_ivydyf0amkzay
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His brother playing at Oregon would not make this understandable. If he goes there it’s a massive slap in the face to RU and really diminishes his role in the legacy built at Rutgers. He doesn’t have family there now. It’s far from Texas. There’s the salt of Eugene. It’s not a superior academic institution from a grad degree perspective or a place to network for a future career. The list goes on and on. If he goes to Oregon he should never be mentioned in the context of RU accomplishments again.
Jacob started out a Longhorn and I didn't mind his jumping off that ship and becoming a Scarlet Knight..
Now ow he decided to test pro waters and if no bites he'll go back to the collage game.
That's alright by me and if he becomes a Duck or boards another program , I'll just wish him an injury free year and not care if playing one more college year will help his pro chances.
Young should be considered a basketball mercenary , willing to play his best for a program with the ultimate goal of helping himself while he helps the program he choices .
Nothing wrong with that, he played his heart out as a Scarlet Knight and helped the program improve
Now ow he decided to test pro waters and if no bites he'll go back to the collage game.
That's alright by me and if he becomes a Duck or boards another program , I'll just wish him an injury free year and not care if playing one more college year will help his pro chances.
Young should be considered a basketball mercenary , willing to play his best for a program with the ultimate goal of helping himself while he helps the program he choices .
Nothing wrong with that, he played his heart out as a Scarlet Knight and helped the program improve
There is no good way to spin this if he transfers to Oregon. Having said this it hasn’t happened yet.
Sorry - I’m usually pretty positive with posts but I don’t see it this way at all. If he transferred somewhere in Texas I’d get it. The spin being that after a year in isolation - he’s moving closer to his family. Fine. Oregon is nowhere near Texas though. Surely more direct flights to EWR. He mentioned an MBA in his Tweet - he’s not choosing Oregon over Rutgers for academic reasons either (certainly in business RU is a better location for networking).
The bottom line is it really looks bad for Rutgers if he goes to Oregon especially after Eugene left and went there. It would be hard to think upon him favorably ever again if he made this decision.
Correct. I was only pointing out that his brother playing there previously does not in any way make this “understandable”. At least not by my standards and I can’t see how any RU fan would be okay with it.
So how is it different if he goes pro vs going across the country to play hoops? He announced he was leaving RU like 8 minutes after the clock hit 0 against Houston. No one expected him back. To me, if he transferred to Michigan or a team on the schedule that would be different.
Leaving to go pro is moving on from the college game. Transferring to a school close to Houston where is family lives is totally understandable. Going to play at Oregon should tell us he left Rutgers due to an issue he had. Either with the team or did not see Rutgers getting to the dance next year
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I wonder if he might've at least considered returning if he were the undisputed PG, meaning Geo in fact moved on. That said, as long as Geo is healthy and the returning/younger and incoming (ie. Hyatt) players live up to expectations, I'm ok with that tradeoff if it had to be.
I’m not saying I would be happy about it but Lou is known for looking for the most negative angle possible so Hi...I am balance.
No - it’s not. His choosing Oregon would be very harmful to the perception of Rutgers (with the Eugene thing - especially after Eugene made the comments he made about how much better Oregon was for his development). The timing of the blow would be awful. I.e. at a time when we’ve finally taken a major first step towards building a legacy and culture of winning.
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I mean could you blame him? He was used so so so poorly at RU. Was the best player on the squad and was treated like a role player at times. The team shouldve been built around him. We just had too many emotional guys that couldnt handle it
Or maybe he just wants a lot of free Nike sh*t and to play for a school/team a lot of people think is cool. Not a knock on RU and we have to stop getting down on kids for not living for Rutgers the way we all do.
He can probably earn more at Oregon than as a pro.....just sayin.
I would prefer the trade off of keeping Young over Geo. I love Geo, but he does not hold a candle to Young in Talent. Especially on D, and there are no teams whose press that he can't break single handedly. He is just too quick. We would be certain to make the NCAA Tournament again if he came back. I would wager that we would finish higher in league play also
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Whoa . What ??
it was his performance against minnesota that got us into the tournament for the first time in 30 years . That performance lives in rutgers lore. Like him or not , you can’t take that away
Idk JY also was a t/o machine that got us behind early in number of games. Assuming Geo is healthy I'm comfortable with him as the QB with the players we have next season. Jaden Jones and Hyatt hopefully can replace JY's scoring with solid D, minus the wild t/o spurts.
Think the luster is off the Oregon football and basketball team. Basketball had it for 2-3 years. Gone
Maybe he’s just a Nike guy…
Just more proof all was not right with that team. Glad they made the tournament and broke the curse. Time to move on. Wouldn’t cry if JY and GEO left especially now that Myles is gone.
New leadership will forge ahead.
Just more proof all was not right with that team. Glad they made the tournament and broke the curse. Time to move on. Wouldn’t cry if JY and GEO left especially now that Myles is gone.
New leadership will forge ahead.
JY is already gone. I agree that I wouldn’t care if Geo left.
This is the best move for RU and Young....Oregon, Texas, Moscow Russia.....all the same to me....Jacob spent 3 years at RU and we have guards incoming that need to be developed for the next stage of winning. Would not trade Year 6 in college of Jacob Young for Year 1 for Jaden Jones or Jalen Miller, under any circumstances......the "best player stuff" rings hollow......didn't we hear that 2 years ago with Eugene departing and how "it was a slap in the face"......LMAO
Getting the right players who want to be here is always a good thing. Jacob Young was a hired gun.....he did his job, squeezed enough athletic ability out of an undisciplined player.
There's a reason why he has such a limited marketplace despite the "best-player nonsense ".....no one wants to take on the headache or does so with buyer-beware, written in bold bright colors on the box, before Amazon drops Jacob off at your practice facility.
You can't write the RU rebuild without including all of the variables that helped lift it from last place to NCAA participants without Jacob Young and his contributions.....but I can pretty much say that about all of the players who helped with the rebuild.
It's now a new age or phase of RU basketball and similar to Montez Mathis, you thank them for their efforts and hard work and move onto the next phase and next contributors.....I don't want Jacob Young back on the RU roster and I hope he kills it at Oregon and does his best.
I will say this, without too much research online or reading other message boards.....if you can't play or empty the teamwork tank for Shaka Smart and now Steve Pikiell, 2 of the nicest guys and good Head Coaches in all of College Basketball, what exactly is Jacob Young searching for.....??
Sometimes (Almost all the time) the answer lies in the mirror of the player himself.....Jacob Young at 24 won't quite understand that, Jacob Young at 44 or 54, when his kids are balling, will have to teach them.....is this all about me and shot attempts, commanding the ball, or is there a bigger goal out there, about the team concepts???
Dana Altman and Jacob Young will be interesting to watch happen. If he wants a shot a minute at Oregon, that's an offense you might get it in. Oregon won't win too many NCAA games with that formula, maybe Altman has other guards who shoot just as much as the next one, as soon as they get their hands on it.
Getting the right players who want to be here is always a good thing. Jacob Young was a hired gun.....he did his job, squeezed enough athletic ability out of an undisciplined player.
There's a reason why he has such a limited marketplace despite the "best-player nonsense ".....no one wants to take on the headache or does so with buyer-beware, written in bold bright colors on the box, before Amazon drops Jacob off at your practice facility.
You can't write the RU rebuild without including all of the variables that helped lift it from last place to NCAA participants without Jacob Young and his contributions.....but I can pretty much say that about all of the players who helped with the rebuild.
It's now a new age or phase of RU basketball and similar to Montez Mathis, you thank them for their efforts and hard work and move onto the next phase and next contributors.....I don't want Jacob Young back on the RU roster and I hope he kills it at Oregon and does his best.
I will say this, without too much research online or reading other message boards.....if you can't play or empty the teamwork tank for Shaka Smart and now Steve Pikiell, 2 of the nicest guys and good Head Coaches in all of College Basketball, what exactly is Jacob Young searching for.....??
Sometimes (Almost all the time) the answer lies in the mirror of the player himself.....Jacob Young at 24 won't quite understand that, Jacob Young at 44 or 54, when his kids are balling, will have to teach them.....is this all about me and shot attempts, commanding the ball, or is there a bigger goal out there, about the team concepts???
Dana Altman and Jacob Young will be interesting to watch happen. If he wants a shot a minute at Oregon, that's an offense you might get it in. Oregon won't win too many NCAA games with that formula, maybe Altman has other guards who shoot just as much as the next one, as soon as they get their hands on it.
It can't be any more obvious that he and the team had issues. Sometimes guys don't get along. Geo seems like a pretty strong force. Combine that with some of his off court focus and maybe those guys don't see eye to eye.
Whatever it is, it's pretty obvious there were some chemistry issues.
I would agree with you here....unless Jaden Jones and Jalen Miller leave for “Oregon” after two years here. This seems to be a new and ugly world of college basketball we are entering and I fear “guns for hire” may become the norm.
Only true if Geo and RHJ come back and have signature years. Then it doesn’t matter. JY sort of just blends in as a major role player of our first tourney with them being the marquis faces of the RU revolution. If we don’t make the tourney next year and JY is playing college hoops in a move that clearly wasn’t made for academic reasons or to be closer to home it would sadly be a very bad look for us. In my opinion it would put more pressure on perception wise for us to keep up pace next year. I’m not usually negative. You should know that. Just my straight up take here. It would hurt us.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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You write a lot frequently however consistently little of it makes sense
theres little market for Jy? LOL. Clueless
Definitely a market for JY. Kids elite. Tries to do too much sometimes but pretty much any team not Duke, Kentucky etc could use him. His speed, defense and hot streaks are rare. He’s a baller
Aundre Hyatt transferred from LSU to Rutgers, is that a giant blow to LSU's reputation?
Everyone needs to chill and realize that the extra year and the transfer rule changing is going to lead to some stuff like this and it has absolutely nothing to do with the program itself.
He led the team in usage rate both seasons here and was basically tied for the team lead in minutes this past season.
First of all Hyatt is from NY. Second his playing time more closely resembled Tez. I never would have said Tez leaving for another college reflects badly on the RU program. JY averaged 30 mpg and led the first tournament team in in 30 years in scoring. Him choosing to play another year of college at a different school that clearly isn’t about returning home would reflect poorly on the program. All would be forgotten though if we have a great season next year (just like when Eugene left).
I disagree that it's some black mark on the program. It's an incredibly weird off-season and everyone figured JY was gone one way or another anyway.
You might say Jacob leaving Rutgers for Oregon is acceptable because his brother Joe transfered to the Ducks from Houston to play for Altman and became a 3rd team All American and the PAC 12's POY in 2015
Joe Young was a 2nd Team All Pac his first year playing for Dana's Ducks
Joe never made it in the NBA drafted 2nd round.
But making 3 mil in China, now, and little brother might feel playing in Altman's system helped his big brother and might help his chances for a pro career in the NBA or good money overseas
So Jacob has good reason to look at the Ducks if he continues to play College Basketball.
Edit: was pointed out, by Groz, that Joe played in the NBA for 3 years
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