Shumpert stats the past 3 years...

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,742
22,993
113
2013: 46 attempts / 190 yds
2014: 47 attempts / 274 yds
2015: 42 attempts / 160 yds
 

DerHntr

All-Conference
Sep 18, 2007
16,209
3,714
113
So, did Dan think with a less seasoned Oline that Shump would miraculously get better?

Mullen seriously went all in for the passing offense. He likely had zero faith in this line and our backs. Keep in your quality blocker and let Dak chunk it around. Hate to say it, but it's pretty smart. It's just strange for us as MSU fans to see a bad rushing attack.
 

esplanade91

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2010
5,656
0
0
Shump looked pretty good at the end of last year. Maybe the OL made him look better than he was.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,339
33,064
113
Mullen seriously went all in for the passing offense. He likely had zero faith in this line and our backs. Keep in your quality blocker and let Dak chunk it around. Hate to say it, but it's pretty smart. It's just strange for us as MSU fans to see a bad rushing attack.
I think you nailed it.
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
We lost 3 NFL O-linemen. That was a good OL. They are on practice squads

but still in the NFL nonetheless. I do like our RS FR o-linemen. They will be pretty good. Better now as RS FR than Beckwith, Classell or Day as RS FR. Day was a great Center. I think Daryl Williams currently being RS will be our next great Center. He was the #9 center prospect outta HS, but more importantly he looked nasty on his HS film like Day did. Day was a 2 star, but I watched his film and wanted him on his nastiness. They say our current OG commitment Dee Nalls is real nasty too.

I like nasty O-linemen. Did I mention that?
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,339
33,064
113
I agree. We lost a lot on the OL, and it's going to take time to replace that. I think Mullen was heavily counting on Martinas Rankin to step in and help fill in the gap until the young OL develop, and that just didn't happen.
 

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
11,192
2,329
113
Day is the only one a practice squad isn't he? Last I saw, Clausell got cut in training camp, Beckwith got hurt so he's on IR.
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
15,926
0
36
Minus

the fact that Dontae was the #1 RB recruit in HS, and Shumpert was nowhere near that.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,339
33,064
113
And minus the fact that Dontae Walker was a major cancer in the locker room and there's no indication that Shumpert is anything but a good guy that you'd like to see succeed.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
He's the same back he's always been.

There was a lot of talk this fall camp that Shumpert had really developed and improved now that it was "his time". I don't know if that came from Mullen/Knox or various MSU fan sites, but someone was 100% full of it. It basically took 1 game for everyone to realize it.
 

AFDawg

Senior
Apr 28, 2010
3,301
601
113
Yes, and minus the fact that Dontae Walker got lazy and fat and Shumpert has a reputation as a hard worker.
 

AFDawg

Senior
Apr 28, 2010
3,301
601
113
Pretty sure he meant that Walker now has no neck.

 

Philly Dawg

Heisman
Oct 6, 2012
16,329
11,040
113
Despite all of that, the only year Walker was not better than Shumpert was his last year. Shumpert isn't good enough for a team with MSU's aspirations. I think we have a sufficient data set to reach that conclusion now.
 

BertleTheTurtle

Freshman
Nov 4, 2013
317
56
28
So, did Dan think with a less seasoned Oline that Shump would miraculously get better?

Mullen seriously went all in for the passing offense. He likely had zero faith in this line and our backs. Keep in your quality blocker and let Dak chunk it around. Hate to say it, but it's pretty smart. It's just strange for us as MSU fans to see a bad rushing attack.

I believe we have 2 very talented freshmen at the RB position. I think they are both capable of pass blocking. It's not like Shump is an all world pass blocker. I've seen him miss blocks and get blown up numerous times this year. Go back to the La Tech game, I think it was middle of the third quarter on the drive that ended with a Bear TD catch. Williams picked up a block on a blitzing LB and completely took him off his feet. Granted, this is just 1 play, but it showed me that he is capable. I just don't think Shump is capable of being a good runner. The young guns need to tote the rock. I know they've both fumbled on occasion, but so has Shump and truthfully, the offense really opened up with them on the field.
 

esplanade91

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2010
5,656
0
0
Are we bringing in anyone else at TB?

I'd love to see Shump as much or more than I've seen if it's in a 2 back set and he's blocking.

FB was a staple of Mullen's offense the first 3 or 4 seasons he was here. I understand that the QB play was a major reason why, but you'd think with our shortage at TE, our lackluster OL, and the running game being what it is, a HB/FB would really successful this year.
 

Indndawg

Senior
Nov 16, 2005
7,248
744
113
Ashton could have been an amazing LB if given the chance

2013: 46 attempts / 190 yds
2014: 47 attempts / 274 yds
2015: 42 attempts / 160 yds

The stats are all on Dan Mullen. If he didn't have the vision or speed to be an SEC RB then move him.
 
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