Should Rupp Rafters be renamed?

IFerg1969

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Name it after the family of next year's top basketball recruit. Natty baby!
This has recruiting potential, I like it. The highest rated UK recruit gets to have the arena named after them for the upcoming season. Imagine the NIL money that would generate for the player. How has no one thought of this before now?
 

John Henry

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I guess we are talking about this forum so if Rupp Arena is changed it has to be changed too. There will be no such thing as Rupp associated with UK basketball.

At one time a Rupp Arena UK game was the hardest ticket in sports to get. When UK bows to the change it may be the easiest. The crowds are already getting smaller and this will push it evern more in that direction
 

Jazzycat

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If this was truly about police brutality against American black males, I would see some modicum of rational thought going into trying to remove older names and replace them with more modern names as a means of considering ALL viewpoints.

However, one has to consider all of what is currently transpiring. We have a number of spin off groups hijacking and infiltrating the BLM and other movements in an effort to completely dismantle our constitutionality. We are a democratic republic based on the rule of law. This means that we have freedoms that are both protected by the constitution and the law to protect citizens from those who are behaving in a manner that causes them to be a danger and threat to the health and safety of others. Laws and opinions can be changed without the wholesale destruction of lives and property. Whatever happened to civil disobedience? Civil disobedience ended the systemic discrimination in the Southern states leading to the establishment of laws that governed in both an integrative and nondiscriminatory way towards those who were being openly marginalized in the society.

Civil disobedience was also used to successfully end the slave trade in England in 1833. William Wilberforce, a British politician and philanthropist lead the movement in Parliament beginning in 1787 to eradicate the slave trade coming out of Western Africa. This man, though suffering incredible hardship and health issues remained steadfastly and ardently opposed to slavery and ended up spending the rest of his life attempting to persuade his fellow parliamentary adherents in the evils of slavery. The slave trade was permanently abolished by the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 - three days before Wilberforce died. His persistence, determination and conviction paid off.

History is important. It gives us information about where we have been and how much we have improved, grown and overcome as a people. It shows us the importance of faith, values, conviction and fortitude, something that few people really care about now, but is what gave our country it's beginning.
If we care about where we are headed as a nation, I encourage you to become as informed as you can on what and WHO is actually funding these movements, supporting these movements and what these movements represent. Police brutality is a valid concept. Overthrowing a constitutional republic is much more insidious and I believe that is the true goal of some of these groups.
 

sluggercatfan

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If this was truly about police brutality against American black males, I would see some modicum of rational thought going into trying to remove older names and replace them with more modern names as a means of considering ALL viewpoints.

However, one has to consider all of what is currently transpiring. We have a number of spin off groups hijacking and infiltrating the BLM and other movements in an effort to completely dismantle our constitutionality. We are a democratic republic based on the rule of law. This means that we have freedoms that are both protected by the constitution and the law to protect citizens from those who are behaving in a manner that causes them to be a danger and threat to the health and safety of others. Laws and opinions can be changed without the wholesale destruction of lives and property. Whatever happened to civil disobedience? Civil disobedience ended the systemic discrimination in the Southern states leading to the establishment of laws that governed in both an integrative and nondiscriminatory way towards those who were being openly marginalized in the society.

Civil disobedience was also used to successfully end the slave trade in England in 1833. William Wilberforce, a British politician and philanthropist lead the movement in Parliament beginning in 1787 to eradicate the slave trade coming out of Western Africa. This man, though suffering incredible hardship and health issues remained steadfastly and ardently opposed to slavery and ended up spending the rest of his life attempting to persuade his fellow parliamentary adherents in the evils of slavery. The slave trade was permanently abolished by the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 - three days before Wilberforce died. His persistence, determination and conviction paid off.

History is important. It gives us information about where we have been and how much we have improved, grown and overcome as a people. It shows us the importance of faith, values, conviction and fortitude, something that few people really care about now, but is what gave our country it's beginning.
If we care about where we are headed as a nation, I encourage you to become as informed as you can on what and WHO is actually funding these movements, supporting these movements and what these movements represent. Police brutality is a valid concept. Overthrowing a constitutional republic is much more insidious and I believe that is the true goal of some of these groups.
Bingo!!! It's all about burning the constitution!
 

struggler

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Normally I would say a flat "NO".

In middle school I was bullied mercilessly by this one kid. I finally stood up to him and it ended immediately.

But I wasn't bullied by half of the class... That would have been, as is mentioned here, a no win situation and unmanageable.

So we've allowed a the main stream media to unite with a radical portion of a political party to bully all of us. Now sports are completely political... medical care - political... private moral values - political... Race - political.

Sadly we are rather screwed on this one. Some will revolt - some support - but either way we will be divided and at odds - and THAT is the goal of all of this.
 

JC43

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Wtf, I come to this msg board to escape this lynching attitude that now is pervasive in our society. Ef it, Rupp played to win and knew how to do it successfully. Any tactics...as a rabid cat fan, as long doesn't break the rules do it. Life is hard for everyone who lives in this wonderful Commonwealth. I grew up Asian in SE Ky, I know what racism is, have the knuckles to prove it.
This 'pandemic' has made the masses crazy. They change the name of our Hallowed Hall of Rupp Arena I'm headed to Baja and say *** you idiots!!!!!!! Look at the whole and not little snippets of disgruntled former opponents who lost cause of racism.
Tired of this bs, If you want respect, do something that deserves it, it's never given.
 

CELTICAT

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DESTROY THE AMERICAN PATRIARCHY!
Create more pronouns I will never use....maybe Huxley had it right.Medicate the masses, oh wait they have and it's 24 cable news.

Everyone keeps talking about Orwell, but Huxley is the one that hit the nail on the head. The proliferation of autism, food that makes us sick and fat, and drugs coupled with trash tv (or even worse social media where children are easy marks) was all laid out in Brave New World.
 

Yahtzee43

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The real racism in this country now is not against minorities, it is against whites. Whites are discriminated with impunity and no one cares. Their speech is stifled, they lose spots for jobs held for affirmative action spots in college and careers. Black students get full academic scholarships at UK where a white student gets no aid or scholarship with same score, GPA and even higher.

It is legal to discriminate and stifle free speech of whites but not of anyone else. That is the problem in this country. It is a double standard and no one wants to admit it or discuss openly.

All you have to do to see if something is racist or discriminatory is to switch it around and sub another race and ask yourself if that would be acceptable.

We have black colleges, black fraternities, African American Studies, set asides in jobs and universities for admission. What if you turned it around and sub white in any of those things? It would sound terrible, so why is it acceptable on the other side?

Honest question.
 

TopCatCal

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Name it after the family of next year's top basketball recruit. Natty baby!
This has recruiting potential, I like it. The highest rated UK recruit gets to have the arena named after them for the upcoming season. Imagine the NIL money that would generate for the player. How has no one thought of this before now?
The only problem with this ideal is. If your top recruit happens to be a white kid. Then the libs in the media will start their UK is a racist basketball program again. Saying something like. UK signs only 1 white recruit & 5 black recruits and the white recruit gets the basketball arena named in his honor. They will tell us how white privilege is rearing it’s ugly head.
 

LadyCaytIL

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Look at what happened at Mizzou whether racism was true or not there......... the african american community perceived it as such and started advising kids not to go there... their sports went from good , even conf title games to dog sh*t..... I dont want to risk that... I'd rather say there is no proof rupp was racist but if it makes some people feel better, change the name and make money off doing so.
 
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drbubba

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Missouri's faculty and administration couldn't explain what tolerance and civility mean in a way the mob could understand. Too bad they let the lunatics run the asylum. Now some in UK's faculty are showing they don't understand either.
 

mebeblue2

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Look at what happened at Mizzou whether racism was true or not there......... the african american community perceived it as such and started advising kids not to go there... their sports went from good , even conf title games to dog sh*t..... I dont want to risk that... I'd rather say there is no proof rupp was racist but if it makes some people feel better, change the name and make money off doing so.
it will make far more fans mad then it will appease
change the name and lose a lot of money
 
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I guarantee the name comes down. Why. If not BLM will have black players buycott us and every other school that doesn't give into their demands. It's political. They could care less about anyone's life.
 

ck-2

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The real racism in this country now is not against minorities, it is against whites. Whites are discriminated with impunity and no one cares. Their speech is stifled, they lose spots for jobs held for affirmative action spots in college and careers. Black students get full academic scholarships at UK where a white student gets no aid or scholarship with same score, GPA and even higher.

It is legal to discriminate and stifle free speech of whites but not of anyone else. That is the problem in this country. It is a double standard and no one wants to admit it or discuss openly.

All you have to do to see if something is racist or discriminatory is to switch it around and sub another race and ask yourself if that would be acceptable.

We have black colleges, black fraternities, African American Studies, set asides in jobs and universities for admission. What if you turned it around and sub white in any of those things? It would sound terrible, so why is it acceptable on the other side?

Honest question.
Don’t forget the NFL considering moving teams draft picking spot up the ladder if they hire a black head coach.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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it will make far more fans mad then it will appease
change the name and lose a lot of money

how much money would they lose if we suck like mizzou in both major sports due to communities advising the better african americans to not come here due to us defending who they think was a racist?
 

Cowtown Cat

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The real racism in this country now is not against minorities, it is against whites. Whites are discriminated with impunity and no one cares. Their speech is stifled, they lose spots for jobs held for affirmative action spots in college and careers. Black students get full academic scholarships at UK where a white student gets no aid or scholarship with same score, GPA and even higher.

It is legal to discriminate and stifle free speech of whites but not of anyone else. That is the problem in this country. It is a double standard and no one wants to admit it or discuss openly.

All you have to do to see if something is racist or discriminatory is to switch it around and sub another race and ask yourself if that would be acceptable.

We have black colleges, black fraternities, African American Studies, set asides in jobs and universities for admission. What if you turned it around and sub white in any of those things? It would sound terrible, so why is it acceptable on the other side?

Honest question.
You’re exactly right. The best post in this thread. Racism only goes one way. My wife and I discuss this often. We both have mixed relatives in our families also. It’s not like we’re pro or con one way or the other. It just is what it is.
 
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mebeblue2

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how much money would they lose if we suck like mizzou in both major sports due to communities advising the better african americans to not come here due to us defending who they think was a racist?

how much money would they lose if 75% of the fans quite supporting them
 
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SemperFiCat

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Any name will eventually offend someone with the way our society is going. I say no name, just put the address on the building.