Shocking - Project 2025 was real after all
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A lot of information in that article that proves it……………………..
Have you even read Project 2025? It's a thousand pages, so I highly doubt it. Even lefty factcheck.org does a decent enough job summarizing it. There's certainly nothing remotely sinister about it.
Check out Old Pee here.
Joined our beautiful website 11/1/2024, just four days before the election. Let's not even mention his repeated using of the Russian language on this board. Maybe some of you understand it but I don't, and don't care to.
IMHO, this is a TROLL that should be ignored, but y'all do you.
Joined our beautiful website 11/1/2024, just four days before the election. Let's not even mention his repeated using of the Russian language on this board. Maybe some of you understand it but I don't, and don't care to.
IMHO, this is a TROLL that should be ignored, but y'all do you.
I’ve read a summary. If you don’t find it sinister then you are ****** in the head.
Wow. That bad huh? You should have no problem lifting a direct quote and posting it here to cement your position then.
Welcome to TI…seems like you will fit in with the others
Beyond the consolidation of power and reclassifying federal employees so he can fire them and replace with loyalists? I didn’t know you guys wanted to elect a king.
Targeting immigrant communities through mass deportations and raids, ending birthright citizenship, separating families, and dismantling our nation’s asylum system.
Exploiting the executive branch’s vast and unprecedented powers to spy on Americans’ lives with warrantless surveillance of our data.
Violating the First Amendment by using federal law enforcement to target journalists and protestors.
Abusing executive power to interfere in our elections by criminalizing the voting process and damaging fair representation.
Censoring academic discussions about race, gender, and systemic oppression, in violation of the First Amendment, and promising to cut federal funding for schools with curricula that touch on these subjects.
Project 2025 proposes that the entire federal bureaucracy, including independent agencies such as the Department of Justice, be placed under direct presidential control - a controversial idea known as "unitary executive theory".
Under the proposals, pornography would be banned, and tech and telecoms companies that allow access to it would be shut down.
You don’t make videos for Clemson do you?
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Is this @okclem or our friend Prime ? Are you back under a new name already?
Good point. @tboonpickens has been absent and he along with @okclem were probably the two most disturbed leftists I have encountered on the internet this year.
Leftist claptrap. Can you cite a passage you disagree with?
For staters, here are its stated goals:
- Secure the border, finish building the wall, and deport illegal aliens
- De-weaponize the Federal Government by increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ
- Unleash American energy production to reduce energy prices
- Cut the growth of government spending to reduce inflation
- Make federal bureaucrats more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress
- Improve education by moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats directly to parents and state and local governments
- Ban biological males from competing in women' s sports
Until then, I'll attempt to dissect your copied and pasted comments in a later post.
I don’t think trans women should be participating in women’s sports.
the border is secure.
Fed govt has not been weaponized but Project 2025 wants to make that possible.
America currently produces more energy than it needs.
Would love to cut govt spending. Don’t really care about DoE other than providing student loans. Lots of folks won’t be able to afford college if that happens. But the right prefers that voters don’t have critical thinking skills otherwise they would never win another election.
Making federal bureaucrats accountable to the president erodes the checks and balances in our democracy and aligns us more closely with a monarchy.
OK, good. This is a much easier conversations to have. We actually have some common ground to work from.
Re; trans-sports. I agree, just don't think the government should be involved in regulating sports--even if they are coming at it from a position that I agree with. As somewhat of a tangent, this is at least somewhat similar to my stance on abortion.
The boarder is certainly NOT secure; we can just agree to disagree if we must, but I really don't think you believe that yourself.
The feds are full of partisans. I am a "fed". I am partisan. For the most part, this doesn't matter. Every once in a while, it does. Sometimes it matters a lot, and it hurts both parties. There is much to unpack, and it demands we hit other topics that will require entire threads on their own (i.e. NOAA, EPA and climate change). You are afraid P25 will lead to further weaponization; and you know what? I AM TOO! But I am always fearful and suspicious of government power. So, I intend to watch them like a hawk and never be too willing to suspend disbelief; but not so worried that I won't seek to try reforms to better bring them to heal.
America does, at times, produce more than it consumes; but it's traded on the world market. I'd like to see us maximize our resources to help spur an economic boon. And you know what? With such a boon, we'd could actually better leverage these resources to help fund alternative energy research, clean air programs and carbon reduction initiatives.
WRT to Dept. of Ed (DoE usually refers to Energy)... Dept of Ed has become hyper partisan and is no longer realizing its original charter of "help states establish effective school systems". To your point about school affordability, it is the Student Loan program that has made school unaffordable. It has served to supply a near boundless supply of cash for a finite resource. It is THE classic recipe for cost explosion. I took my first college course at LaTech (that's "Louisiana Polytechnic", like GaTech or CalTech--albeit far less prestigious). Courses there cost less than $70 and hour in 1999 (I was in the military and was only able to attend as a part time student). I could effectively work my way through school and never have to pull a loan. Today, per Google, that figure is $406/hr average in the US for public 4-year collage--and a staggering $1,469/hr for private universities. That is a 580% percent increase for public schools in just 25 years! Granting ever-more loans on top of this is certainly not going to help bring costs down.
The checks and balances you speak of are among the three branches...not within the branches themselves. But don't hear what I am not saying. Intra-branch accountability is a good thing, it's just not part of the Constitutional concept we know as the system of check and balances. Deeper reading into P25 actually aims to fortify this system of check and balances, not erode it. Be suspicious of the methods and motives if you must. I certainly am. But the aim is good.
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No doubt child predators lurk in churches. God help them if one ever seeks to prey on children in the one I attend. Along with the criminal background checks for staff, we have a combination of covert and overt security employed throughout and our pastor has made it clear he would bankrupt the church before he'd let a crime against a child go unpunished.
So you don't think any of the things project 2025 outlines will happen? Im confused. Is it the plan or not? I've been told it is, it isn't. I've also been told Trump just tells it like it is, also that he just speaks in hyperbole. How is anyone supposed to make a government accountable if no one knows what the plan is?
Are we implementing tariffs? On what products/countries? How will this help the american workers of this country?
Football game that good, huh?
Project 2025 was put out by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. It is absolutely their aim to attempt to influence policy. They no doubt hope to do it with project 2025.
While it is not Trump's plan, I certainly do expect him to follow its model to some degree. It's a good plan. I hope he does.
As far as tariffs, what Trump has implied is that he would like for the threat of tariffs to be sufficient to make our misbehaving trade partners behave. Party unity would go a long way to making that a reality, but we didn't have it during his first term. So he did bring about tariffs. And it did hurt. Particularly the farmers, but they stood in solidarity and continued to support Trump, looking forward to the bigger picture. And about that bigger picture, tariffs were having an effect...so much so that Biden kept them in place.
China has already started to change some its behavior in the immediate aftermath of the elections. For all his faults, Trump's bluster and willingness to use the bully pulpit against misbehaving trade partners is a thing. It seems to be effective.
As far as further tariffs, I fully expect Trump to threaten Mexico with all sorts of trade sanctions to force them to help resolve the immigration problem from their side of the border just like he did during his first term. He'll also use this threat to attempt to make American manufacturers think twice before moving more manufacturing overseas. He also used this to great effect during his first term.
Quite well, actually. He's at least partially hit on every summary objective in project 2025. Too bad this Iran quagmire is interrupting things. DJT sometimes just can't help playing into the left's hands.
I don't follow... While I do attempt to challenge my biases with objective reasoning, I am still human. All humans are biased and tribalistic. There's no point running from it.
Nevertheless, what are you driving at?
I suppose "quite well" is an overstatement. What I should have said is that Trump has gone further with the P25 agenda than I expected. Of course, there's plenty I am not happy about.
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