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Well, I stand slightly corrected, since Bjork said UMiss will release its response at the end of the 30 day extension.
The only thing I don't fully understand is why UMiss has to delay its response when some other party requests an extension? Couldn't UMiss go ahead and respond? I know that most attorneys like to wait until the last possible date to file anything, but I go against that trend. I always file my briefs/responses early because it irritates the other side.
The only thing I don't fully understand is why UMiss has to delay its response when some other party requests an extension? Couldn't UMiss go ahead and respond? I know that most attorneys like to wait until the last possible date to file anything, but I go against that trend. I always file my briefs/responses early because it irritates the other side.
I bet their paper shredders all have worn out blades by October & a lot of keyboards in Oxford have the word "delete" worn off.
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OM handles all things like this through an outside attorney. It is that attorney who likely filed for the extension. Make no mistake. It was OM who requested it. Just another delay tactic that doesn't point directly back at them.
That's possible, but it seems unlikely. An attorney for UMiss is not "a party other than UMiss." If an attorney for UMiss filed for an extension, then that is the same thing as UMiss filing for an extension. It is certainly possible that Bjork is being stupid in claiming that another party asked for the extension, but that seems highly unlikely.
Several former coaches were named in the NOA, incluing UMiss' former women's basketball and T&F coaches. Former football coaches were also named. I suspect a former coach is the one who asked for the extension, and UMiss is choosing to wait the extra 30 days to file its response.
Several former coaches were named in the NOA, incluing UMiss' former women's basketball and T&F coaches. Former football coaches were also named. I suspect a former coach is the one who asked for the extension, and UMiss is choosing to wait the extra 30 days to file its response.
You would think that a school that has known about this **** for as long as Ole Miss wouldn't need any extensions.
eta: wonder if any local reporters have the Girodos to ask Bjork how his stance that they have been working with the NCAA for a long time on this stuff squares with a request for extension.
eta: wonder if any local reporters have the Girodos to ask Bjork how his stance that they have been working with the NCAA for a long time on this stuff squares with a request for extension.
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Because their response would cast dispersion on the other party, perhaps to the point of slander? Is the other party privileged to know the University's response before it's actually submitted?
A Memphis person told me tonight the 3rd party is a booster named in the allegations and that person is the reason everything is hush hush. They have been trying to get his name out of things and he is pissed.
That may be wishful thinking in their part. I have zero idea.
I had heard there was someone up here being "disassociated", but I never heard a name. PM me if you know it.
That may be wishful thinking in their part. I have zero idea.
I had heard there was someone up here being "disassociated", but I never heard a name. PM me if you know it.
This sure seems to be a
whole lot about nothing. The girls track/basketball teams are gonna be in for a world of hurt.
whole lot about nothing. The girls track/basketball teams are gonna be in for a world of hurt.
bjdork is just assembling his social media swat team. It doesn't look good for them and I have a feeling after years of cheating and lack of action on behalf of the ncaa, they are coming after OM pretty hard. We shall see. The resources they appear to have invested and length of investigation shows signs of something significant. Perfect storm of unhappy stepdads, academic misconduct, retarded boosters that rival only our own means it has potential of going very deep.
I really don't know how the NCAA procedures work. For all I know, everyone files a joint response. But assuming the school files it's own response then they could go ahead and file it. Their response isn't going to change just because another party disagrees with it. And there's no slander as long as the filer reasonably believes the statements to be true.
Buy like I said, I know very little about NCAA procedure.
Buy like I said, I know very little about NCAA procedure.
The booster may be the reason for the current 30 day delay, but there's no way a single person could be responsible for the astronomical uptick in OM recruiting quality ... it went from average to near the top overnight. And it seems infeasible that this whole thing is about just one or two recruits. It takes a village.
Not sure how 30 more days would fix that problem in the unlikely event that it is the case. If nothing else they could simply redact all references to said party until that matter is concluded.
Why would a booster be filing his own response to the NCAA?? If the booster wanted to challenge any allegations, the University would take care of that. I have never heard of a booster responding to a NOA. Not saying it doesn't happen, I've just never heard of it.
Yeah that whole story line makes no sense to me. It could very well be that the NCAA sets a very low bar for offering a 30 day extension, but I have a hard time believing "somebody might not like what's in the letter" to be a valid excuse for extension if one is required.
I suspect the extension is automatic if requested. The NCAA's got nothing to lose with a 30 day delay.
I think the idea isn't that one person is responsible for all the violations, but that one of the people named in the allegations is influential and wants his name out of the whole thing.
Just my opinion, but I would think that UMiss has its own "direct" attorneys appointed to the case. In addition, they have hired a 3rd party, most likely a UMiss alum lawyer firm, to handle the case. As in typical lawyer fashion, this appointed "3rd party" allows them to delay the case in order to get the story straight and explore any potential loopholes. The "3rd party" in this case is essentially a play on the system.
I'm not certainly not questioning you bringing that here but I'm not sure that lines up in my brain. My reasoning is that a booster doesn't need to respond to the NCAA b/c they have no jurisdiction to do anything to him. It would be someone who has has accoutability with the NCAA like a coach. That leads me to think its Chris Vaughn. At this point, Saunders has a 10 year show cause and doesn't coach in the NCAA so he probably doesn't give a ****. Vaughn on the other hand, just got canned from Texas for this. His world just got flipped upside down and it's feasible to think he needs 30 more days to answer some things. The guy wanted to stay at Texas and Strong wanted to keep him. UT administration forced the move. Vaughn could coach again if he could prevent a show cause or make it very short.
Do you think the booster was from Memphis also? That could be interesting if so. I know 2 that immediately come to mind. And they both would not like having egg on their face.
If they have computers with the delete button worn off they need to fire anybody related to computer programming at that university.
I honestly have no idea. It was a brief conversation with someone who tends to talk like he knows what's going on, but it seems like every Ole Miss fan "knows" what's really happening. They like to sound connected.
Now, what I do know it that whoever it is must be facing some consequences for whatever is in there. That means it's either Freeze, Nix, a coach not yet named, or a booster being disassociated that doesn't want the public scrutiny. I think we can think of one person in the latter category in particular, but all of those make some sense.
No, that makes no sense at all. If someone hires an attorney - or multiple attorneys - to represent them, those attorneys do not become "third parties" to the matter. They are representatives of the actual party. If an attorney representing UMiss requested an extension, then it is UMiss who requested that extension and not a third party. Like I said, it is possible Bjork is being a total idiot, but it seems far more likely that a former coach requested the extension. And there could be a simple reason for it, such as their attorney was busy on something else.
One thing I believe ole miss has going against it is when you recruit against the big dogs and win some prize recruits like they have and then beat bama two years in a row, things can turn against you. In this case I bet some butt hurt big time programs are calling in the dogs on ole miss.
The key element working against Ole Miss is the academic fraud part of the case.
And there is a part of my brain that keeps telling me that Hugh Freeze could rape the Head of the NCAA Investigation Department and after the Ole Miss lawyers get finished spinning it, the NCAA rape victim would have to issue a formal apology to Hugh Freeze and pay him $ for ruining Freeze's good name. But then the other half of my brain tells me that the NCAA is big into denying that College Football is a money making business today and they are big into pushing that Football players are "Student Athletes". Compromised ACT test scores, basically casting doubt on the "Student" part of "Student Athletes" is really going to draw the ire of the NCAA.
And there is a part of my brain that keeps telling me that Hugh Freeze could rape the Head of the NCAA Investigation Department and after the Ole Miss lawyers get finished spinning it, the NCAA rape victim would have to issue a formal apology to Hugh Freeze and pay him $ for ruining Freeze's good name. But then the other half of my brain tells me that the NCAA is big into denying that College Football is a money making business today and they are big into pushing that Football players are "Student Athletes". Compromised ACT test scores, basically casting doubt on the "Student" part of "Student Athletes" is really going to draw the ire of the NCAA.
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