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DancingRabbit

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You 2 get a room. SMH, Saquon Barkley anyone?

 

cheewgumm

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So we have to have Saquan Barkley for a RB to get double digit carries?

Is that what we’re waiting on

That’s a joke right?
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Met Kylin Hill? Or Aeris Williams. You know the 1000 yard rusher from last year? How many carries are they getting this year? If I’m looking at that from a recruits stand point, I’m worried about getting touches and how I’m going to get to the NFL getting 6 carries a game. I would love to have him, but I hate to see us waste more talent at running back.
 

DancingRabbit

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Huh? He's 50/50 run pass guy historically. An RB gets picked 2nd overall?

You don't think Saquon would say Joe did OK by him?



So we have to have Saquan Barkley for a RB to get double digit carries?

Is that what we’re waiting on

That’s a joke right?
 

AustinDawg

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Maybe McSorly RPOd to Saquon

You don't think Saquon would say Joe did OK by him?

Maybe Moorhead is an idiot that called a bunch of dumb plays and McSorley, instead of holding the ball, gave it to his best option (Saquon Barkley) instead.

I mean, if we're using the "savant's" scheme, that's what had to have happened right?

Otherwise, if we had a real offensive coordinator, they would maybe say, "hey, we need a certain amount of touches from our RBs by design".

Clearly that wasn't the case this season, because whomever is running the offense is a maron. :)
 

engie

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Maybe Moorhead is an idiot that called a bunch of dumb plays and McSorley, instead of holding the ball, gave it to his best option (Saquon Barkley) instead.

I mean, if we're using the "savant's" scheme, that's what had to have happened right?

Otherwise, if we had a real offensive coordinator, they would maybe say, "hey, we need a certain amount of touches from our RBs by design".

Clearly that wasn't the case this season, because whomever is running the offense is a maron. :)

Or, maybe McSorley handed the ball to Barkley 217 times and kept it 144 himself -- for a total of 1762 yards and 29 TDs -- with a terrible offensive line -- because that is what the defenses gave him?

This isn't that hard to figure out. An option-based offense only works if you can successfully perform the options. Fitz has to pass because the box is loaded because teams know he can't pass. He's not accurate. He can't make the correct reads. And when he does, the WRs drop the ball. It's been an endless series of whammies. But not something that should be expected to continue. Not the least reason of which being because if it does continue the coach won't be here long. He has to figure it out quickly.

The waste of this team has been that, for once, we had the horses to line up and run over people regardless of whether they knew it was coming. In this manner, I'd prefer the offense to be proactive rather than reactionary. But reactionary is going to win us games when our talent is outmatched once we have a guy that can successfully make the reads and complete the passes.
 

NWADawg

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Met Kylin Hill? Or Aeris Williams. You know the 1000 yard rusher from last year? How many carries are they getting this year? If I’m looking at that from a recruits stand point, I’m worried about getting touches and how I’m going to get to the NFL getting 6 carries a game. I would love to have him, but I hate to see us waste more talent at running back.

We wouldn't waste his talent and any kid that knows football and spends time with a coaching staff will understand that.

Unless severly overmatched, defenses can choose their poison against option offenses. It was that way the the triple option of the old days and it's true with the RPOs of today. That doesn't mean you can stop the offense but you can determine where you are going to win or lose.

In our current situation, throwing the ball is our weakest link on offense. Defenses that can match us on talent commit to taking away the other options and make it win or lose based on our ability to pass. When we have a quarterback whose skill set matches this offense better (he can pass and read defenses quickly), defenses will not want to commit so heavily to stopping the run and leaving their secondary on an island to get burned. If they do, we will score lots of quick strike touchdowns. => When we have balance, we will run the ball more and be more efficient at it also.

On weaker teams, we just impose our will and they can't do anything about it. That's why we rush for 350+ against K State.
 

L4Dawg

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Maybe Moorhead is an idiot that called a bunch of dumb plays and McSorley, instead of holding the ball, gave it to his best option (Saquon Barkley) instead.

I mean, if we're using the "savant's" scheme, that's what had to have happened right?

Otherwise, if we had a real offensive coordinator, they would maybe say, "hey, we need a certain amount of touches from our RBs by design".

Clearly that wasn't the case this season, because whomever is running the offense is a maron. :)
You do know that where the ball goes inan RPO is determined by the Quarterback don't you?
 

Trojanbulldog19

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disagree with you there. we haven't given our running backs enough carries to be successful on the ground. neither one is going to sniff 1000 yards this year. I call that misuse of talent. I'm sure recruits see the same thing.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Or, maybe McSorley handed the ball to Barkley 217 times and kept it 144 himself -- for a total of 1762 yards and 29 TDs -- with a terrible offensive line -- because that is what the defenses gave him?

The waste of this team has been that, for once, we had the horses to line up and run over people regardless of whether they knew it was coming. In this manner, I'd prefer the offense to be proactive rather than reactionary. But reactionary is going to win us games when our talent is outmatched once we have a guy that can successfully make the reads and complete the passes.

have to be proactive in this game. you can't afford three bad years. especially us in the SEC West. Coaches don't get paid to win 5 years from now, they get paid to win now AND win 5 years from now. and you are right. we had the horses to run over anyone in this league, but our coach hasn't chosen to ignore it.
 

engie

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have to be proactive in this game. you can't afford three bad years. especially us in the SEC West. Coaches don't get paid to win 5 years from now, they get paid to win now AND win 5 years from now. and you are right. we had the horses to run over anyone in this league, but our coach hasn't chosen to ignore it.

We aren't going to have 3 bad years. Where do you keep pulling up this 3-5 year timeframe? You are making that up and no one else is saying or talking about.

Who up and decided we can't win -- because we are, in all likelihood, gonna win 9 this year and be within a couple of spots of the highest final ranking of any team in Mississippi in the last 40 years? Sure, it wasn't as good as we wanted, but holy **** at deciding the Croom era is upon us because of it and deciding the coach can't win here....
 

Trojanbulldog19

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We aren't going to have 3 bad years. Where do you keep pulling up this 3-5 year timeframe? You are making that up and no one else is saying or talking about.

Who up and decided we can't win -- because we are, in all likelihood, gonna win 9 this year and be within a couple of spots of the highest final ranking of any team in Mississippi in the last 40 years? Sure, it wasn't as good as we wanted, but holy **** at deciding the Croom era is upon us because of it and deciding the coach can't win here....

yes we may win 9. we were good enough talent wise to win at least 12.

um 3-5 years is typical for any coaching timeline. very few coaches if they suck get to stay around for more than 3 years. I don't see us being any better this next year or the year after. If you don't meet expectations 3 years in a row you are done usually in the SEC. I don't see us making a bowl game the next two years. Take that for what you will. Not unless he can learn to use the talent we have on roster and sprinkle in some juco players to maintain the defensive production. I see a downward trend coming. We may win 9 this year, but without the defense being at an all time high, I doubt we even win 6. you tell me a possible of 9 wins is not a complete wasted year? or you don't see things being worse next year? come on.
 

NWADawg

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I'm not saying we didn't waste talent this year. We did. And it was because we had 0 ability to exploit the part of the option they left open to us. When we become a threat to beat people in the air, we won't waste RB talent.
 
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