Shhhh. MY coach is speaking:

Willcampbell

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Long post and I apologize but stay with it. We don't really know who comes on this board and see's our threads. I know fans from unc and Duke that just lurk out of curiosity. I did for a long time before I got the nerve to start posting and look what kind of monster was created. :) I don't think that Coach K lurks here but it is highly possible that someone in the inner circle let him know what is going on and even though the players are probably encouraged to stay away from message boards they are still human. When I 1st. started posting Heyman25 told me to stay away from thr. Don't even look at what they post about. Curiosity got the est of me and I lurked and eventually posted. They chewed me up and spit me out. I feel sure that our players are ask not to visit message boards but being human I'm sure they do. We might be surprised as to who checks us out.

Now I have to share this.Here's what happened. During unc'c NIT season I had a thing going where I made fun of hof coach roy williams' ugly ties. Every game I would make fun of the tie he was wearing. Some of you log time posters may remember. It's been several seasons back. hof coach roy williams was having a presser after another loss and he was in rare form. He was pissed and made the comment about he didn't care that certain fans made fun of his ugly ties. Now was it a coincidence? Did he actually check out our board? I don't know but he didn't like the idea of someone making fun of those butt ugly ties he wears. Point of story we don't know who reads our post. It may be recruits or current players. It's a free board. I just think even though we are all entitled to our opinion we must be careful. Once we post it's there even though we may have second thoughts and go back and delete it someone has read it. I've deleted a lot of post and maybe this is one that I should have never posted but here it is. OFC
Jesus, Sky. You trying to use up more cyberspace than Patrick Yates?
OFC
 

Quavarius

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Long post and I apologize but stay with it. We don't really know who comes on this board and see's our threads. I know fans from unc and Duke that just lurk out of curiosity. I did for a long time before I got the nerve to start posting and look what kind of monster was created. :) I don't think that Coach K lurks here but it is highly possible that someone in the inner circle let him know what is going on and even though the players are probably encouraged to stay away from message boards they are still human. When I 1st. started posting Heyman25 told me to stay away from thr. Don't even look at what they post about. Curiosity got the est of me and I lurked and eventually posted. They chewed me up and spit me out. I feel sure that our players are ask not to visit message boards but being human I'm sure they do. We might be surprised as to who checks us out.

Now I have to share this.Here's what happened. During unc'c NIT season I had a thing going where I made fun of hof coach roy williams' ugly ties. Every game I would make fun of the tie he was wearing. Some of you log time posters may remember. It's been several seasons back. hof coach roy williams was having a presser after another loss and he was in rare form. He was pissed and made the comment about he didn't care that certain fans made fun of his ugly ties. Now was it a coincidence? Did he actually check out our board? I don't know but he didn't like the idea of someone making fun of those butt ugly ties he wears. Point of story we don't know who reads our post. It may be recruits or current players. It's a free board. I just think even though we are all entitled to our opinion we must be careful. Once we post it's there even though we may have second thoughts and go back and delete it someone has read it. I've deleted a lot of post and maybe this is one that I should have never posted but here it is. OFC

Excellent post as always sky
 
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dukiejay

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Long post and I apologize but stay with it. We don't really know who comes on this board and see's our threads. I know fans from unc and Duke that just lurk out of curiosity. I did for a long time before I got the nerve to start posting and look what kind of monster was created. :) I don't think that Coach K lurks here but it is highly possible that someone in the inner circle let him know what is going on and even though the players are probably encouraged to stay away from message boards they are still human. When I 1st. started posting Heyman25 told me to stay away from thr. Don't even look at what they post about. Curiosity got the est of me and I lurked and eventually posted. They chewed me up and spit me out. I feel sure that our players are ask not to visit message boards but being human I'm sure they do. We might be surprised as to who checks us out.

Now I have to share this.Here's what happened. During unc'c NIT season I had a thing going where I made fun of hof coach roy williams' ugly ties. Every game I would make fun of the tie he was wearing. Some of you log time posters may remember. It's been several seasons back. hof coach roy williams was having a presser after another loss and he was in rare form. He was pissed and made the comment about he didn't care that certain fans made fun of his ugly ties. Now was it a coincidence? Did he actually check out our board? I don't know but he didn't like the idea of someone making fun of those butt ugly ties he wears. Point of story we don't know who reads our post. It may be recruits or current players. It's a free board. I just think even though we are all entitled to our opinion we must be careful. Once we post it's there even though we may have second thoughts and go back and delete it someone has read it. I've deleted a lot of post and maybe this is one that I should have never posted but here it is. OFC

There is no doubt that people at Duke read these boards. There’s also no doubt that family members of players (and potential recruits) also read some of the boards. Another board where I was a longtime member had folks on staff and players parents as members.

Now, I don’t think these people are posting or checking multiple times per day like many of us, but you’d have to be pretty naive to think they’re not reading at times. I think Coach K’s comments clearly show they’re aware of some of the stuff that gets said. And by no means am I saying just here.
 

retiredsoldier

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There is no doubt that people at Duke read these boards. There’s also no doubt that family members of players (and potential recruits) also read some of the boards. Another board where I was a longtime member had folks on staff and players parents as members.

Now, I don’t think these people are posting or checking multiple times per day like many of us, but you’d have to be pretty naive to think they’re not reading at times. I think Coach K’s comments clearly show they’re aware of some of the stuff that gets said.
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IPSYCHOSIS

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There is no doubt that people at Duke read these boards. There’s also no doubt that family members of players (and potential recruits) also read some of the boards. Another board where I was a longtime member had folks on staff and players parents as members.

Now, I don’t think these people are posting or checking multiple times per day like many of us, but you’d have to be pretty naive to think they’re not reading at times. I think Coach K’s comments clearly show they’re aware of some of the stuff that gets said. And by no means am I saying just here.
Hard for me to see that. If I was a player/ parent/“people at duke”/ coach whatever i would check and see what people are saying on the main social media stuff like Twitter, Facebook, ESPN, TV. I wouldn’t go as far as digging in these message boards though. But (I) ain’t everybody I guess :)
 
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DukeDenver

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I think of McBob and Rivers when I think of "hero ball" in a Duke uniform. In both of those cases, we didn't really have much of a choice, so not necessarily some kind of character flaw.

I do wish RJ would cut out the most difficult 20% of his shot attempts (I could say the same for Reddish), but he is certainly playing to win and is not ignoring his teammates. RJ had a few bad possessions at the most tense moment of the season; so those brief actions are amplified in the minds of Duke nation.
 

Liftee

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We fans only see the games and don't know what's going on behind the scenes in practice or in the locker room. I definitely felt that with both the Rivers and McRoberts teams there was a division on the team. Paulus liked McRoberts and ignored others on the court, and Seth Curry and Rivers didn't seem to like each other or want to share the ball. The result of the Curry/Rivers rift was that Plumlee II has a perfect night from the field vs. Lehigh but gets exactly 7 shots total because Curry and Rivers were more interested in getting theirs.That was disgraceful.

Not that I carry grudges or anything.
 
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Mac9192

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I have no problem with everything Coach K said concerning the media and fans ripping his kids. Before we played Gonzaga, the talking heads had Duke hyped up so high that they said the Cleveland Cavaliers would lose to Duke.

They got everyone so stoked on this team. Turn on espn, there they were. Former pro players slobbering all over Duke. As soon as we lost, some idiot fans who had bought the hype, rip one of his players. Rip them K, I totally get it. But it may have helped a little if he had asked everyone to pump the brakes a little BEFORE we lost our first game. After all, they're just kids, and were bound to lose a game sooner or later.
 
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DukeRev

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Not sure that this a message board problem only. I was in the student section at the Duke vs Indiana game. On multiple occasions when RJ would drive I heard quite a few crazies yelling "pass the ball." When he fouled out I even heard two young men shouting around "it's ok we are better team with out him".

This, has to stop. It's one thing to discuss basketball strategy on a message board but it's completely different to yell out in Cameron. That's not what Duke is about.

I am also of the opinion that this is not new for K and something that he has been seeing as a problem for the past 3 seasons. Fans complaining about Tatum, Duval, Bagley being a black hole. I believe K has grown tired of it and I'm glad he said something about it.

Look if RJ had of made one of those drives against Gonzaga, and maybe even an and1, the Duke fanbase would be singing a different tune about him being stone cold aand a winner.

You don't get the Rivers shot without a deisre to score and win and this is the kind of player K loves and I believe RJ should continue to try to win ballgames with that same passion.
 

Mpm277

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RJ is 60/143.
Zion is 60/90.

Should RJ have 53 more shots than Zion? I'm not trying to throw shade at RJ here; I'm more advocating for Zion to have more opportunities.
 
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HeLooks2MuchLikeDave

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RJ is 60/143.
Zion is 60/90.

Should RJ have 53 more shots than Zion? I'm not trying to throw shade at RJ here; I'm more advocating for Zion to have more opportunities.
RJ creates more with the ball. I have no problem with that shot ratio. Would like to see RJ’s efficiency up, and I think that will come. This team needs ALPHA RJ. Not second fiddle RJ
 

LongTimeDukeFan

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RJ is 60/143.
Zion is 60/90.

Should RJ have 53 more shots than Zion? I'm not trying to throw shade at RJ here; I'm more advocating for Zion to have more opportunities.
I would not characterize all of Zion’s 90 scoring events as “shots”. More then a few would better described as violently ramming a ball through a hoop.
 

timo0402

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I would not characterize all of Zion’s 90 scoring events as “shots”. More then a few would better described as violently ramming a ball through a hoop.
And joking aside that’s kind of the point. RJ is more of a well rounded scorer. He can score from all over the floor. Zion is straight attack or maybe a spot up 3. Completely different games and they compliment each other very well. Zion was always going to be more efficient because of how they both play.
 
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Mac9192

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RJ has a better shooting game against IU. He was 9-18 with 9 rebounds. That’s a solid game. But a game where he goes 9-25 will bring a little flack, especially when one of his running mates is much more efficient, and the most dominant person on the court. I don’t care if they happen to be dunks.
No one is suggesting RJ not be aggressive.

The one player we need a little more out of is Cam.
 

hart2chesson

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RJ has a better shooting game against IU. He was 9-18 with 9 rebounds. That’s a solid game. But a game where he goes 9-25 will bring a little flack, especially when one of his running mates is much more efficient, and the most dominant person on the court. I don’t care if they happen to be dunks.
No one is suggesting RJ not be aggressive.

The one player we need a little more out of is Cam.

We did need more touches for Zion and K mentioned they emphasized that more recently. Yes Cam is struggling but I will believe find his groove....OFC
 

hart2chesson

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I’m curious as to how he found out too. Checked himself? Some coach told him? Players? He reads this board? Lmao Never know!

I am sure the board has been checked before by inquiring relatives/players/friends, but unfortunately that type of criticism comes w/the territrory especially w/over the top fans.Likewise I think the ripping is much more pronounced on twitter....

I like fact K stood up for our players, but I wish he hadn't specified only "Duke fans" I am sure a large percentage are trolls.He could have handled it more diplomatically, and probably should have squelched all the hype in the preseason...OFC
 
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I like fact K stood up for our players, but I wish he hadn't specified only "Duke fans" I am sure a large percentage are trolls.He could have handled it more diplomatically, and probably should have squelched all the hype in the preseason...OFC
Couldn’t agree more. Kinda pissed me off lol
 

timo0402

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I am sure the board has been checked before by inquiring relatives/players/friends, but unfortunately that type of criticism comes w/the territrory especially w/over the top fans.Likewise I think the ripping is much more pronounced on twitter....

I like fact K stood up for our players, but I wish he hadn't specified only "Duke fans" I am sure a large percentage are trolls.He could have handled it more diplomatically, and probably should have squelched all the hype in the preseason...OFC
I still agree with what Coach K said...
 

LongTimeDukeFan

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I am sure the board has been checked before by inquiring relatives/players/friends, but unfortunately that type of criticism comes w/the territrory especially w/over the top fans.Likewise I think the ripping is much more pronounced on twitter....

I like fact K stood up for our players, but I wish he hadn't specified only "Duke fans" I am sure a large percentage are trolls.He could have handled it more diplomatically, and probably should have squelched all the hype in the preseason...OFC
I am glad he specified only Duke fans. What is he going to say, "I want all those rivals to say nice things about us"? He should only care about the group of people that are suppose to support his team. Everyone else?...meh.
 

hart2chesson

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I am glad he specified only Duke fans. What is he going to say, "I want all those rivals to say nice things about us"? He should only care about the group of people that are suppose to support his team. Everyone else?...meh.

Still its not only Duke fans. He could have just said some of our fans. However here is the real point: K should have slowed down the train with a sermon about mammoth expectations in the preseason....it got way out of hand w/pundits saying we could beat a pro team...

Part of the venting however, came from the Maui loss. He said fouls should have been called at end of Zags game, so there was some bitterness built in. I do agree fouls went uncalled however.

OFC
 

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Hating hearing him saying fouls should have been called too:rolleyes:. Reminded me of UNC posters. Made me think of criticizing him for having Cam on the bench and “drawing” up 3 bogus plays in a row to spread out! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:. Still love the hard headed basterd though lol . Wouldn’t trade him for anybody.
 
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Regardless of what K says, does he really think it’s going to stop anybody? Lmao . All that was for show to show support for his players, recruits, etc, whatever. That’s all that really was. A show.
 
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hart2chesson

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Hating hearing him saying fouls should have been called too:rolleyes:. Reminded me of UNC posters. Made me think of criticizing him for having Cam on the bench and “drawing” up 3 bogus plays in a row to spread out! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:. Still love the hard headed basterd though lol . Wouldn’t trade him for anybody.

Ipsy my friend good points, and I hear ya pal.However Obviously I "wouldn't trade him for anybody." He is THE G.O.A.T.

OFC
 
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