Shake up the divisions?

[Sinomatic]

Just read that the East is too heavy, .....didn't know if anyone has heard that yet(sarcasm)....but, if you had to shake it up, how would you?

I would get Ohio State over here. Biggest recruiting ground in the conference. Sub for say Purdue because of proximity.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

Just read that the East is too heavy, .....didn't know if anyone has heard that yet(sarcasm)....but, if you had to shake it up, how would you?

I would get Ohio State over here. Biggest recruiting ground in the conference. Sub for say Purdue because of proximity.

I'd prefer Michigan to Ohio State to avoid the wretched stench of Columbus/Ohio fans

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

Just read that the East is too heavy, .....didn't know if anyone has heard that yet(sarcasm)....but, if you had to shake it up, how would you?

I would get Ohio State over here. Biggest recruiting ground in the conference. Sub for say Purdue because of proximity.

How quickly we forget. They tried a different non-geographical division split and that met with total failure. I think they would be VERY reluctant to go that route again. Besides, the West Division looks like it could be on the cusp of getting stronger.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

How quickly we forget. They tried a different non-geographical division split and that met with total failure. I think they would be VERY reluctant to go that route again. Besides, the West Division looks like it could be on the cusp of getting stronger.

This. Give it time

 

[Redscarlet]

Michigan and Ohio St need to stay in the same division because they will never let go playing their game at seasons end..

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

Michigan and Ohio St need to stay in the same division because they will never let go playing their game at seasons end..

And honestly neither will the B1G because the game between Ohio State and Michigan is a huge national draw bringing huge bucks and prestige to the conference.

 

[Sinomatic]

I'd prefer Michigan to Ohio State to avoid the wretched stench of Columbus/Ohio fans

That's a mighty broad brush brotha

 

[BeautifulDayintheNeighborhood]

Just read that the East is too heavy, .....didn't know if anyone has heard that yet(sarcasm)....but, if you had to shake it up, how would you?

I would get Ohio State over here. Biggest recruiting ground in the conference. Sub for say Purdue because of proximity.

Go back to leaders and legunds

 

[Sinomatic]

How quickly we forget. They tried a different non-geographical division split and that met with total failure. I think they would be VERY reluctant to go that route again. Besides, the West Division looks like it could be on the cusp of getting stronger.

Its getting dang near exciting!

 

[Ewooc]

Just read that the East is too heavy, .....didn't know if anyone has heard that yet(sarcasm)....but, if you had to shake it up, how would you?

I would get Ohio State over here. Biggest recruiting ground in the conference. Sub for say Purdue because of proximity.

I think what needs to be done conference wide:
#1 Every p5 Conference goes to 14 teams ( if we go to a p6 the 6th conf would need 14 too)
#2 Every team in the conference would play 13 regular season games
#3 Every team would play every other team in their conference. Hence the 13 games.
#4 The top 2 teams in the conference play each other for the conference championship.
#5 Go to an 8 team playoff. The Conf winners automatically get in. 3 at large teams

Doing it this way would help to figure out the best team in each conference. In the end finding the best team in the country. It would also keep certain conferences for padding the schedule with 2 - 4 crappy teams every year.
Then for the team who don't make the playoff. Let each school coordinate who they want to play in the bowls. If Nebraska wanted to do say Oklahoma or Texas or UCF they could work it out with that school. This would help keep fan interested in the bowls and not have crappy match up no body cares about. Can only play same team once every 5 years. Can't play anyone from own conference. Once teams have all established who they are playing let the bowls bid on which games they want. The 2 teams split the profits.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

The BiG TeN needs TeN DiViSiOnS with TeN TeAmS in each.
Nine games against the other nine teams in our division.
One game against one of the other 90 teams on a rotating basis.
One game against a name non-conference team.
One game against a sacrificial lamb from a lower division.

 

[Hawkeye_311]

Michigan and Ohio St need to stay in the same division because they will never let go playing their game at seasons end..

You mean like Purdue and Indiana.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

The west is 0-5 against the east in the championship game

OSU/Michigan/PSU are combined 37 -8 against the west - that includes a bad Michigan team and 2 bad PSU teams

Wisconsin and Iowa (probably the 2 best west teams) are 16-13 against the east

 

[Ewooc]

The BiG TeN needs TeN DiViSiOnS with TeN TeAmS in each.
Nine games against the other nine teams in our division.
One game against one of the other 90 teams on a rotating basis.
One game against a name non-conference team.
One game against a sacrificial lamb from a lower division.

Your contributions are spot on and valuable as always

 

[Ewooc]

The west is 0-5 against the east in the championship game

OSU/Michigan/PSU are combined 37 -8 against the west - that includes a bad Michigan team and 2 bad PSU teams

Wisconsin and Iowa (probably the 2 best west teams) are 16-13 against the east

Now the biggest question is that how it is always going to be? As we know conference and division and teams have up and down cycles. Has the east teams just been in an up cycle and the west in a down? The west does seem to be gaining a bit of momentum as of late. However if the east dominance continues. I do think they will eventually have to even things up a bit.

 

[Sinomatic]

Now the biggest question is that how it is always going to be? As we know conference and division and teams have up and down cycles. Has the east teams just been in an up cycle and the west in a down? The west does seem to be gaining a bit of momentum as of late. However if the east dominance continues. I do think they will eventually have to even things up a bit.

Lure in Texas and Oklahoma that could even it up some. Just move two of the eastern most teams in the west over to the east.

 

[Black5hirt]

I think what needs to be done conference wide:
#1 Every p5 Conference goes to 14 teams ( if we go to a p6 the 6th conf would need 14 too)
#2 Every team in the conference would play 13 regular season games
#3 Every team would play every other team in their conference. Hence the 13 games.
#4 The top 2 teams in the conference play each other for the conference championship.
#5 Go to an 8 team playoff. The Conf winners automatically get in. 3 at large teams

Doing it this way would help to figure out the best team in each conference. In the end finding the best team in the country. It would also keep certain conferences for padding the schedule with 2 - 4 crappy teams every year.
Then for the team who don't make the playoff. Let each school coordinate who they want to play in the bowls. If Nebraska wanted to do say Oklahoma or Texas or UCF they could work it out with that school. This would help keep fan interested in the bowls and not have crappy match up no body cares about. Can only play same team once every 5 years. Can't play anyone from own conference. Once teams have all established who they are playing let the bowls bid on which games they want. The 2 teams split the profits.

And not schedule FCS teams late in the season. ($EC) In fact, no one should schedule an FCS. Period

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

And not schedule FCS teams late in the season. ($EC) In fact, no one should schedule an FCS. Period

 

[Black5hirt]

Kinda surprised that texASS didn't have one.

 

[Cornicator]

If Nebraska didn't suck, the perception of the West wouldn't suck.

The Huskers also maintained a winning record vs. Michigan and Penn State before they drew the crossover series with Ohio State during the worst 4 year stretch of Husker football in 60+ years.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

You mean like Purdue and Indiana.

The nation waits all season for that Purdue vs. Indiana game. And those TV ratings are through the roof! Huge money game for the B1G.

 

[gw2kpro]

Michigan and Ohio St need to stay in the same division because they will never let go playing their game at seasons end..

I think they should break up that rivalry.

Let em play something like a 2 on 2 off in a crossover.

That's what a forward-thinking conference with solid leadership would do.

 

[Sinomatic]

If Nebraska didn't suck, the perception of the West wouldn't suck.

The Huskers also maintained a winning record vs. Michigan and Penn State before they drew the crossover series with Ohio State during the worst 4 year stretch of Husker football in 60+ years.

That's right, I remember at one point we were dead even in wins and losses to the 3 flagships in the east.

I think the bone of contention is because Ohio State had got snubbed in the playoff selections party due to the B1G scheduling too tough, and that the division make up is part of that issue.

Hard to make a case like that when Bama can win it all yet not even claim their division. I think some bias is at fault here, but it would certainly clear the air a little if all conferences would follow the same scheduling practices.

 

[oldjar07]

That's right, I remember at one point we were dead even in wins and losses to the 3 flagships in the east.

I think the bone of contention is because Ohio State had got snubbed in the playoff selections party due to the B1G scheduling too tough, and that the division make up is part of that issue.

Hard to make a case like that when Bama can win it all yet not even claim their division. I think some bias is at fault here, but it would certainly clear the air a little if all conferences would follow the same scheduling practices.

Ohio State has only themselves to blame. You're not going to get invited to the playoff when you're blown out by mediocre opponents.

 

[vic.valiant]

Just a bit of clarification on jlb321's post...

These are the number of teams in a conference that did not schedule an FCS puff-cake.

The Big10 had 11 teams that did not schedule one, Pac12 had 4 teams that did not schedule one etc.

The SEC showed 0 so that means every one of them scheduled one....so did Texas.

Go Blue!

 

[Sinomatic]

Just a bit of clarification on jlb321's post...

These are the number of teams in a conference that did not schedule an FCS puff-cake.

The Big10 had 11 teams that did not schedule one, Pac12 had 4 teams that did not schedule one etc.

The SEC showed 0 so that means every one of them scheduled one....so did Texas.

Go Blue!

Looks to me accdng to the post that Texas was the lone B12 team that does not have a lower div. Opponent. Or am I confused?

 

[E.RogerCoswell]

I think they should break up that rivalry.

Let em play something like a 2 on 2 off in a crossover.

That's what a forward-thinking conference with solid leadership would do.

I see what you did there.

 

[Anon1727835823]

Could they come up with a system where the divisions are realigned every 4 years or so based on performance over a rolling 6-8 year window? You could also assign 1-2 guaranteed games per year, to allow for if 2 rivals get put into opposite divisions.

Basically, you take the 14 teams, rank them 1-14 and then bracket them out and split accordingly.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Could they come up with a system where the divisions are realigned every 4 years or so based on performance over a rolling 6-8 year window? You could also assign 1-2 guaranteed games per year, to allow for if 2 rivals get put into opposite divisions.

Basically, you take the 14 teams, rank them 1-14 and then bracket them out and split accordingly.

A lot of complicated solutions that wouldn’t be necessary if the top of the west division didn’t suck relative to the top teams in the east.

It needs to change because right now we are in the JV division of the conference.

 

[Maui2022]

Add Oklahoma and Texas to the west and give the east Purdue

 

[merk0714]

I like everything as it is now except bring back the protected game with Penn St. and put it at the end of the year.

 

[Redscarlet]

I like everything as it is now except bring back the protected game with Penn St. and put it at the end of the year.

Never happen terrible travel for visiting fans on Thanksgiving weekend..

 

[merk0714]

Maybe so, but still something I would like to see.

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

Eighty programs, four conferences, eight divisions.

• Original conferences reconstituted as divisions (as much as possible)
• Nine-game division schedule determines champion
• Three non-con games
  • One vs. Non-power program (home)
  • Two vs. other power conference programs (one home, one away)
• First-round of playoffs = conference title games
• SEC Champ vs. ACC Champ = Semifinal #1 (Orange or Sugar)
• Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 20 Champ = Semifinal #2 (Rose or Fiesta)
• ESPN picks the best SEC team as the national champion (I kid)

Big 10 Original

1. Ohio State
2. Illinois
3. Iowa
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Indiana
7. Purdue
8. Northwestern
9. Wisconsin
10. Minnesota

Big 10 New

1. Nebraska
2. Oklahoma
3. Colorado
4. Kansas
5. Kansas State
6. Iowa State
7. Oklahoma State
8. Missouri
9. Notre Dame
10. Penn State

SEC Original

1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Kentucky
4. Tennessee
5. Vanderbilt
6. Alabama
7. Auburn
8. Mississippi
9. Mississippi State
10. LSU

SEC New

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas
3. Texas A&M
4. UCF
5. USF
6. Memphis
7. TCU
8. Baylor
9. Houston
10. Louisville

ACC Original

1. Virginia
2. Virginia Tech
3. Maryland
4. Florida State
5. Georgia Tech
6. Clemson
7. North Carolina
8. NC State
9. Wake Forest
10. Duke

ACC (Big East)

1. Miami
2. Boston College
3. Pittsburgh
4. Syracuse
5. West Virginia
6. Temple
7. Cincinnati
8. Connecticut
9. East Carolina
10. Rutgers

Pac 10 Original

1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. Oregon
4. Oregon State
5. Stanford
6. California
7. UCLA
8. USC
9. Arizona State
10. Arizona

Pac 10 Southwest

1. Texas
2. Texas Tech
3. Colorado State
4. Utah
5. BYU
6. Boise State
7. San Diego State
8. Fresno State
9. Hawaii/UNLV/Nevada
10. Wyoming/UNLV/Nevada

 

[Bold Words]

Just win. Solves a lot of problems.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Eighty programs, four conferences, eight divisions.

• Original conferences reconstituted as divisions (as much as possible)
• Nine-game division schedule determines champion
• Three non-con games
  • One vs. Non-power program (home)
  • Two vs. other power conference programs (one home, one away)
• First-round of playoffs = conference title games
• SEC Champ vs. ACC Champ = Semifinal #1 (Orange or Sugar)
• Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 20 Champ = Semifinal #2 (Rose or Fiesta)
• ESPN picks the best SEC team as the national champion (I kid)

Big 10 Original

1. Ohio State
2. Illinois
3. Iowa
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Indiana
7. Purdue
8. Northwestern
9. Wisconsin
10. Minnesota

Big 10 New

1. Nebraska
2. Oklahoma
3. Colorado
4. Kansas
5. Kansas State
6. Iowa State
7. Oklahoma State
8. Missouri
9. Notre Dame
10. Penn State

SEC Original

1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Kentucky
4. Tennessee
5. Vanderbilt
6. Alabama
7. Auburn
8. Mississippi
9. Mississippi State
10. LSU

SEC New

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas
3. Texas A&M
4. UCF
5. USF
6. Memphis
7. TCU
8. Baylor
9. Houston
10. Louisville

ACC Original

1. Virginia
2. Virginia Tech
3. Maryland
4. Florida State
5. Georgia Tech
6. Clemson
7. North Carolina
8. NC State
9. Wake Forest
10. Duke

ACC (Big East)

1. Miami
2. Boston College
3. Pittsburgh
4. Syracuse
5. West Virginia
6. Temple
7. Cincinnati
8. Connecticut
9. East Carolina
10. Rutgers

Pac 10 Original

1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. Oregon
4. Oregon State
5. Stanford
6. California
7. UCLA
8. USC
9. Arizona State
10. Arizona

Pac 10 Southwest

1. Texas
2. Texas Tech
3. Colorado State
4. Utah
5. BYU
6. Boise State
7. San Diego State
8. Fresno State
9. Hawaii/UNLV/Nevada
10. Wyoming/UNLV/Nevada

Interesting

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Texas would **** themselves if that was their conference schedule

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

Texas would **** themselves if that was their conference schedule

Yeah, that's the real stretch by going to 80 programs in a "Super League." The West just doesn't have that many great programs.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Eighty programs, four conferences, eight divisions.

• Original conferences reconstituted as divisions (as much as possible)
• Nine-game division schedule determines champion
• Three non-con games
  • One vs. Non-power program (home)
  • Two vs. other power conference programs (one home, one away)
• First-round of playoffs = conference title games
• SEC Champ vs. ACC Champ = Semifinal #1 (Orange or Sugar)
• Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 20 Champ = Semifinal #2 (Rose or Fiesta)
• ESPN picks the best SEC team as the national champion (I kid)

Big 10 Original

1. Ohio State
2. Illinois
3. Iowa
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Indiana
7. Purdue
8. Northwestern
9. Wisconsin
10. Minnesota

Big 10 New

1. Nebraska
2. Oklahoma
3. Colorado
4. Kansas
5. Kansas State
6. Iowa State
7. Oklahoma State
8. Missouri
9. Notre Dame
10. Penn State

SEC Original

1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Kentucky
4. Tennessee
5. Vanderbilt
6. Alabama
7. Auburn
8. Mississippi
9. Mississippi State
10. LSU

SEC New

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas
3. Texas A&M
4. UCF
5. USF
6. Memphis
7. TCU
8. Baylor
9. Houston
10. Louisville

ACC Original

1. Virginia
2. Virginia Tech
3. Maryland
4. Florida State
5. Georgia Tech
6. Clemson
7. North Carolina
8. NC State
9. Wake Forest
10. Duke

ACC (Big East)

1. Miami
2. Boston College
3. Pittsburgh
4. Syracuse
5. West Virginia
6. Temple
7. Cincinnati
8. Connecticut
9. East Carolina
10. Rutgers

Pac 10 Original

1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. Oregon
4. Oregon State
5. Stanford
6. California
7. UCLA
8. USC
9. Arizona State
10. Arizona

Pac 10 Southwest

1. Texas
2. Texas Tech
3. Colorado State
4. Utah
5. BYU
6. Boise State
7. San Diego State
8. Fresno State
9. Hawaii/UNLV/Nevada
10. Wyoming/UNLV/Nevada

Where does Creighton fit in?

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

Where does Creighton fit in?

North Omaha.