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Sodakred

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They have had months to decide if Washington will play but Frost will only hear from the higher ups by game time? Sounds like NU bureaucracy is chugging along at full half speed.
 

mpbrown27

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They have had months to decide if Washington will play but Frost will only hear from the higher ups by game time? Sounds like NU bureaucracy is chugging along at full half speed.

I find this really odd as well. I don't think any new legal information is going to come out in the next couple days. All the information to make a decision should already be available.

I take all this to mean he's going to play and by waiting until game time to announce it, they have shortened (or eliminated) the window for negative press. By the time people have a chance to react, there will be all kinds of storylines related to the actual game to talk about.

By the way, the decision to play or not play someone based on an off-the-field incident should be taken out of the hands of the football coach. Today, we constantly see coaches attempt to walk the fine line between doing what's best for his team (the thing that decides whether he remains employed) and what's best for public perception. Waiting until Saturday to decide this is just another display of the gamesmanship that goes on today with college football coaches.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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What other option do they have? Glad it's the administration making the decision and will deflect off the Head Coach from having to make the decision.

Yes this thing has gone on too long and I would bet that the decision is/has been made but are waiting for any last minute development.

My guess is he does not play. But maybe the administration knows more than we have been told through the media.
 

wannabee8

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They have had months to decide if Washington will play but Frost will only hear from the higher ups by game time? Sounds like NU bureaucracy is chugging along at full half speed.
They are holding out hope that the governor of California will have Washington’s case dismissed. It could happen.


 
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My thought is that a plea bargain has already been agreed to by the prosecutor but that it hasn't been presented to the judge or otherwise made public yet. That might be enough for Frost & Co, but not enough for school administrators yet
 

HUSKERFAN66

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My thought is that a plea bargain has already been agreed to by the prosecutor but that it hasn't been presented to the judge or otherwise made public yet. That might be enough for Frost & Co, but not enough for school administrators yet
Might be. Based on public info I would venture to say he sits. If there's something else out there that they are privy to then that's a whole different ballgame
 

huskergal99

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They have had months to decide if Washington will play but Frost will only hear from the higher ups by game time? Sounds like NU bureaucracy is chugging along at full half speed.

Sounds like they want the opposing coaching staff to prepare for him either way.
 
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The gov of Cal?? We stand a better chance of having bright sunshine for the game

Are you kidding, as progressive as the California governor is he would probably prefer to be more lenient. Hell, he presides over a state where one major city thought it too mean to call ex-cons “convicted felons”. So they have now decided to label them as “justice involved persons”.

You can’t even make this **** up!


 
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mgbreeze

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I get the conjecture, but I honestly can't think of a single good reason that this is a game time decision. Maybe it was a clue when Frost said that Mills would be on the field for the first snap of the game.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Are you kidding, as progressive as the California governor is he would probably prefer to be more lenient. Hell, he presides over a state where one major city thought it too mean to call ex-cons “convicted felons”. So they have now decided to label them as “justice involved persons”.

You can’t even make this **** up!


True. But it does involve a manly sport participant.
 

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My guess is the same as a few others here thinking the decision will be made at game time to limit the negative press. During or after the game we’ll have plenty of information to go over so anything related to this wont be as publicized.
 

Sodakred

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As stupid as his alleged act was, I think this slow turning of the screw is unfortunate. I understand legal cases can crawl through the system, but I hope the NU administration isn’t unnecessarily dragging out their decision. If he needs to go, then tell him. If he needs to be suspended x number of games, then tell him. But no decision three days before the game? Hopefully that really isn’t the case and Mo and Frost know the decision.
 

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In my mind, there is very little chance that Washington plays this weekend. With the revised trial date so close, why risk playing him if the results are unfavorable? I think he's calling it a game-time decision but it's already decided. The only way he plays, in my opinion, is if Mills gets hurt between today and Saturday.
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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As stupid as his alleged act was, I think this slow turning of the screw is unfortunate. I understand legal cases can crawl through the system, but I hope the NU administration isn’t unnecessarily dragging out their decision. If he needs to go, then tell him. If he needs to be suspended x number of games, then tell him. But no decision three days before the game? Hopefully that really isn’t the case and Mo and Frost know the decision.
As far as I can tell, the main problem with the extended delay is not Santa Clara County's fault. They wanted to talk to him last summer about it and his lawyer slow-walked contact with the DA all through the season, which no doubt made the court angry. Then he changed lawyers and that guy wasn't licensed in California so arrangements went on for awhile to get him representation in California. Now maybe something will happen on the third. From what I can see from having friends, acquaintances and coworkers in the criminal justice system is the best outcome if you are guilty, which we don't know for a fact MW is, but all signs point to it, is to plea out for the best deal possible as soon as possible.
 

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They have had months to decide if Washington will play but Frost will only hear from the higher ups by game time? Sounds like NU bureaucracy is chugging along at full half speed.
The decision has been made already but they don't want to say anything publicly in the event something new comes to light in the next 24-36 hours. If they say he is going to play and then something comes out then they'd have egg on their face. This is textbook how to deal with a situation like this. They are doing everything right.
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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In my mind, there is very little chance that Washington plays this weekend. With the revised trial date so close, why risk playing him if the results are unfavorable? I think he's calling it a game-time decision but it's already decided. The only way he plays, in my opinion, is if Mills gets hurt between today and Saturday.
I agree, but even if Mills is unavailable I think they go with other options.
 
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Would Washington be allowed to pay for classes if he was just frat guy? Yes, the University would take his money even if he was going through trial. So if the university is willing to take his money as a student then he should be eligible. His scholarship depends on his ability to play football, be a good teammate, and reach a baseline in the classroom. If he has done these things he should play. I am actually more afraid that he hasn't necessarily met all of the hoops that were required of him to be able to play, as in . a restorative sense.

No offense, but this particular kid isn’t sniffing a classroom in Lincoln without the ability to play football. A normal student applicant would have probably been denied after he was kicked out of a school a month before graduation
 

dinglefritz

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As far as I can tell, the main problem with the extended delay is not Santa Clara County's fault. They wanted to talk to him last summer about it and his lawyer slow-walked contact with the DA all through the season, which no doubt made the court angry. Then he changed lawyers and that guy wasn't licensed in California so arrangements went on for awhile to get him representation in California. Now maybe something will happen on the third. From what I can see from having friends, acquaintances and coworkers in the criminal justice system is the best outcome if you are guilty, which we don't know for a fact MW is, but all signs point to it, is to plea out for the best deal possible as soon as possible.
The REASON they wanted to talk to him was to try to entrap him in to incriminating himself in a recorded phone conversation. As far as anybody can tell, they have zero physical evidence that he sent the video to the ex-girlfriend. None. "Talking to them" would have likely been a stupid move. There is no way in hell any attorney worth his salt would let Washington talk to an investigator without legal representation present and able to advise their client. This has drug out because it's the way California investigations and courts work. I wouldn't be surprised if a plea deal gets worked out fairly soon.
 

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I find this really odd as well. I don't think any new legal information is going to come out in the next couple days. All the information to make a decision should already be available.

I take all this to mean he's going to play and by waiting until game time to announce it, they have shortened (or eliminated) the window for negative press. By the time people have a chance to react, there will be all kinds of storylines related to the actual game to talk about.

By the way, the decision to play or not play someone based on an off-the-field incident should be taken out of the hands of the football coach. Today, we constantly see coaches attempt to walk the fine line between doing what's best for his team (the thing that decides whether he remains employed) and what's best for public perception. Waiting until Saturday to decide this is just another display of the gamesmanship that goes on today with college football coaches.

I was thinking the same thing. My guess is he will play and this keeps the press from asking a ton of questions over the next few days. Because if they planned on sitting him Saturday, they more then likely would have just said that by now. Frost wouldn’t catch a bunch of questions with that decision. At least this way those questions won’t pop up till Saturday after game or Sunday on. But keeping it hush hush for now allows them to focus on S Bama and not fielding Washington questions. I still believe he won’t be kicked and maybe just punished this season. He will finish his senior year as a Husker...GBR
 
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I was thinking the same thing. My guess is he will play and this keeps the press from asking a ton of questions over the next few days. Because if they planned on sitting him Saturday, they more then likely would have just said that by now. Frost wouldn’t catch a bunch of questions with that decision. At least this way those questions won’t pop up till Saturday after game or Sunday on. But keeping it hush hush for now allows them to focus on S Bama and not fielding Washington questions. I still believe he won’t be kicked and maybe just punished this season. He will finish his senior year as a Husker...GBR

In theory that should be the only game where this is an issue. The court hearing is September 3, if with all the legal experts on the husker board say is true there will be a plea deal, he will be exonerated and there will be nothing else to litigate. So by frost not saying anything, South Alabama has to prepare for Washington to play. Why should he tipped his hand until he has to, even if it’s just south Alabama?
 

huskerssalts

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In theory that should be the only game where this is an issue. The court hearing is September 3, if with all the legal experts on the husker board say is true there will be a plea deal, he will be exonerated and there will be nothing else to litigate. So by frost not saying anything, South Alabama has to prepare for Washington to play. Why should he tipped his hand until he has to, even if it’s just south Alabama?

It’s actually a very good plan or idea (how ever you want to say it). Because Washington is a very dangerous weapon on the field and if S Bama has no clue if he’s playing or no...it does throw them off a bit. Like everyone on this board, I can’t wait till this is over with and Washington, the team and the staff can just focus on the season with him (or not).
 

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It’s actually a very good plan or idea (how ever you want to say it). Because Washington is a very dangerous weapon on the field and if S Bama has no clue if he’s playing or no...it does throw them off a bit. Like everyone on this board, I can’t wait till this is over with and Washington, the team and the staff can just focus on the season with him (or not).
While I agree with you, with all due respect, if we need S. Alabama to wonder about whether or not Washington is gonna play, we have bigger problems... we better beat S. Alabama like a drum no matter what, not because they didn’t know which running back to prepare for.
 

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While I agree with you, with all due respect, if we need S. Alabama to wonder about whether or not Washington is gonna play, we have bigger problems... we better beat S. Alabama like a drum no matter what, not because they didn’t know which running back to prepare for.

Oh I’m sure we will. S Bama isn’t a very good team. But I get it, any advantage you can gain over your opponent...then you might as well go for it.
 

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While I agree with you, with all due respect, if we need S. Alabama to wonder about whether or not Washington is gonna play, we have bigger problems... we better beat S. Alabama like a drum no matter what, not because they didn’t know which running back to prepare for.

This. I highly doubt this is in any way influenced by trying to hide the ball from the mighty S Alabama.
 

King Kong

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Might be. Based on public info I would venture to say he sits. If there's something else out there that they are privy to then that's a whole different ballgame

I think we should sit the guy, period. We have nothing to gain by playing him if we need him to win against So. AL we are in deep **** trouble again this year. The PR mess of playing him is simply not worth it. I know the alleged crime happened before he got here but Frost was spewing things about character, social media, treating women with respect and so on as it relates to players and recruits. Time for Frosty to put his actions where his mouth is. Hopefully, this gets pled down to a misdemeanor and the guy gets a two-game suspension. End of story.