Regardless of any of that. He did enough to win. Why are you dying on this hill?
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Regardless of any of that. He did enough to win. Why are you dying on this hill?
And if the refs made the correct calls at the end of the match, then his lack of offense is irrelevant. Suriano sure AF didn’t deserve to win based on how he wrestled.
I don’t disagree with you at all. That’s not my point, that Suriano “earned” it any more than Daton. Just that Daton wasn’t nearly aggressive enough on his feet.
The headgear hold can at least be understood somewhat because it was mostly obscured by the long hair. But the stalemate really made no sense.
Seemed like the refs wanted the match to be decided by a takedown and not rideouts or penalty points.
Because we disagree. And it’s an internet board, where people discuss things.
I posted my belief of what happened during the match. People have both agreed and disagreed with me.
What’s funny is I’ve agreed with most on here way more than I’ve disagreed. The only place anyone has disagreed with me is whether or not Daton was aggressive.
I believe Fix got robbed with the stalemate call and not getting the headgear call. It looks like fix could get in back of Suriano but Suriano stiff armed him by grabbing head gear and then when Fix was stopped by the headgear shot for the takedown. Robbery which is a way of life for us now. However I do not like our coaching and how we didn't really wrestle in the finals and many other matches. Our goal appeared to have the score be 0 to 0 after the first. That did not turn out so well for us.
Kind of ironic that everyone thinks Fix should have been a lot more aggressive but he lost because he took an agressive shot.
mekhi lewis for heisman...Cenzo finally ran into an athlete at his weight is didn't want the smoke
Freshman Lewis of VT upsets Joesph! What a tournament for an extremely talented FR.
The first bit of good news tonight. Should have occurred with Fix also.
Watch yourself Harley. Not allowed to post like this. You’ll be called names.
Oh get off your cross. You came here with a factual incorrect statement about Fix not shooting until overtime and then said it was way more on Fix than the refs.
If you would have just posted Fix should have been more aggressive no one would have said a thing.
We’re just going to disagree. The entire match I’m screaming for Fix to be more aggressive. To me, that’s what cost him the match.
Either or, he’s a freshman who just took second at the NCAAs. He’s a great kid with a great future.
Either or, he’s a freshman who just took second at the NCAAs. He’s a great kid with a great future.
I literally don’t think anyone is saying Fix shouldn’t have been more aggressive.
The attacking Penn State!! Yeah right. If it’s Bo Nickal or Jason Nolf you’re right.
Mark Hall should’ve been hit for stalling way worse than Fix. Valencia outshot him probably 12 to 2 and Hall was never warned.
Mark Hall should’ve been hit for stalling way worse than Fix. Valencia outshot him probably 12 to 2 and Hall was never warned.
From Cary Kolat (Campbell Head Coach)
Not having third party review at the NCAA Championship is crazy and cost a kid a title. The SoCon conference had independent review why not here?
Not having third party review at the NCAA Championship is crazy and cost a kid a title. The SoCon conference had independent review why not here?
Next bit of good
Wrassler, you are right the second bit of good news tonight but I wish we could have celebrated with great news tonight.
Tonight just reaffirms what has been happening the last several years but their is more and more top end talent out there. It's hard to win a championship let alone several.
Hall, Joesph, Martin, Gable were all heavy favorites and all lose. Several returning AA's failed to make the podium. Nolf who is an all timer probably should have lost in the semis.
Hall, Joesph, Martin, Gable were all heavy favorites and all lose. Several returning AA's failed to make the podium. Nolf who is an all timer probably should have lost in the semis.
Someone had to bring a natty to the Big XII....congrats Drew Foster. I will say that Jacobe beat him in a dual lol.
Exactly.why would 2 refs overturn a call by reviewing it with the same eyes they called it with? My wife rarely watches wrestling but said that is why she does not.they do not reverse the obvious.send it to an independent ref to review.
Foster of UNI wins 184 and the picture I have is Jacobi Smith dominating Foster in the dual with a combination of speed and power.
Hang in there Harley, the good times are coming...it's gonna get fun again real soon.
Too bad he'll miss it looking through binoculars for what's going wrong.
Your wrong because we have not won a title for a dozen years. If we win a Team National Championship and I write a negative comment for the next year I will quickly make a forum apology. Nobody needs binoculars to see the negative most years, if you did not have orange shades on you would see our struggles. Wrassler I do see lots of potential in the near future with recruiting, new facilities and a RTC functioning well. However I am going to need to see it and when I see it I will really enjoy it because it has been a long, long wait.. I saw some good things this year but I also saw enough bad things but I was surprised how poorly some wrestlers wrestled at Nationals but some wrestled tough but still we did not win Nationals and did not have 1 individual champion. Two teams that were jokes to us in the first part of the 2000 decade both beat us with 1 dominating us. Nope I am not satisfied with this year.
Micco, you know I have been called names on this forum for years. I remember you calling me some names in the past also. Don't worry about it, most everybody me included is angry and frustrated tonight.
I just thought you were overly negative about some things. I’ve since come around to agreeing with a lot that you said/say. You’re STILL more negative than my outlook on most things, but you’re not wrong.
Great season for both our finalist. Interesting thing people forget is (from what I read before season began) Daton is a natural 125 lbs and wrestled at 133 for the team with pic there and a solid top 5 guy. Not saying he beats Lee tonight as that kid is a machine but everyone kept talking about upper weight kids jumping weights for a large portion of the year, people forget about that.
A frustrating end to Daton's season, no doubt. But there's also a potential positive to him going 133 this year - it might help with freestyle. After battling some of the bigger guys, he should be better prepared for Gilman & company.
Another highly regarded freshman once lost in the NCAA finals and it proved to be a turning point in his career. He went on to win a World gold medal before his sophomore season. Then he won an Olympic gold medal. And 3 straight NCAA titles. Kyle Snyder.
Don't be surprised to see Daton do the same.
I expected Nolf to win handily and he won handily.
I expected VJ to win and he lost handily.
I expected Hall to lose in a close one and he lost in a close one.
I expected Bo to win and he won.
I expected Cassar to lose a close one and he won handily.
My thoughts were pretty mainstream so not sure where you got your opinion. All in all the final outcome was there if not all the details. Besides, I’m not so invested in any individual outcome that it devastates me. Wrestlers come and go but the team is always there. The team won the title.
I’m sure most of you feel the same about your team.
IMO, tOSU loses too much from this year to be a strong factor next year. I think it’ll be a three team race between Ok St, Iowa, and PSU.