Sermon sucks dick

Shamoan

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Dude is short handed in the secondary, but that is no excuse to sit back, not mix anything up, and run the same ******** defense the whole 17ing game. He is trending in torbush territory.
 

skydawg1

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Looks like Vegas got this one right. This might be Dan's first shutout. Oh and he's been shutout before, who cares.
 

treeddeep

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Big time hire **
This was our chance to make a splash and get a proven leader on the defensive side of the ball. Instead, Daniel gets a nobody like usual. This is the SEC West. Go and 17ing get a winner.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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He was an LB coach for a ****** staff and a severely under performing program. What did we expect. Top 10 talent over there and no results. What's he suppose to do with these 3 star strainers?
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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Our DC's main job is to be Mullen's fall guy

b/c it sure as hell isn't our O-line coach. Actually putting together a cohesive defense isn't job #1.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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Sermon isn't responsible for the **** talent we have in the secondary.

WTF is he supposed to do? Mix things up lmao

Did you expect a well instinctive reacting defense the first year switching to 3-4? Especially playing in Baton Rouge the third game of the season? GTFO
 

Shamoan

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Help them out with a little originality utilizing the one strength you have...the front 7. Rushing 4 clearly isn't having the intended effect.
 

KurtRambis4

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I'm not gonna sit here and act

like they're dominating, but when they're constantly on the field bc our O is constantly going 3-0, and one of the drives starts on our end of the field, I'm looking at much bigger problems.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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I understand what you're saying but i shutter at the thought of our secondary 1 on 1 or be responsible for a big area of space. We know how that will end.

Against the elite talent of the SEC, as these games have gone for 8 years...this is how the games go.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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like they're dominating, but when they're constantly on the field bc our O is constantly going 3-0, and one of the drives starts on our end of the field, I'm looking at much bigger problems.

Yes, the problem is talent. On both sides of the ball.
 

Shamoan

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I have reserved judgement until his point and have given sermon what I feel like is enough leash considering the circumstances, but what has he done schematically to attempt to mask our obvious defensive weaknesses?
 

Shamoan

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Let's pretend for a second that that is the only problem...assuming that, keeping players in that consistently miss those tackles IS a big problem scematically.
 

Shamoan

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Ok, let's flip the script. What has sermon done to sell on the fact that he is ready and prepared to run an sec defense? What critical adjustments had he made in south Alabama, South Carolina, and lsu that convinces you that he knows what he is doing? I'll hang up and listen.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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You're preaching to the choir on that one. I wanted orgeron.

But I don't think he would be doing better right now bc we have little talent. Some good starting talent up front but that's it.


EDIT: I misread that, thought you meant what did he do to deserve the job.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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At the same time allowing 20 pts to USA, 14 to USC, and 23 to LSU so far...I think your frustration is misplaced.
 

Shamoan

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Well, convince me he is good. What exactly are you seeing from the first time defensive coordinator that convinces you he isn't in wayyyy over his head in this 1-2 start. I'm all ears.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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Well, convince me he is good. What exactly are you seeing from the first time defensive coordinator that convinces you he isn't in wayyyy over his head in this 1-2 start. I'm all ears.
20 pts, 14 pts, 23 pts...first year installing a new scheme.

What exactly are YOU seeing?
 

Shamoan

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answer the question. Keep in mind we aren't playing offensive juggernauts. The scores you listed are those of south Alabama, South Carolina, and laughably inept lsu. Again, what are you seeing that convinces you sermon has what it takes? Please don't dodge the question again.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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answer the question. Keep in mind we aren't playing offensive juggernauts. The scores you listed are those of south Alabama, South Carolina, and laughably inept lsu. Again, what are you seeing that convinces you sermon has what it takes? Please don't dodge the question again.

I don't know if he's gonna be great or garbage.

But after 3 games where he hasn't allowed 25 pts or more, installing a new scheme, with ALL new position coaches, with ****** talent...I'm not gonna judge him on that. It would be laughably premature to do that.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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I'm not gonna pretend to be a message board warrior and know all the X's and O's, believe you need to quit pretending to be also.
 

SaintsDoc

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Orgeron is a cancer. Don't want him at all. Sirmon is a star. Will be a fine head coach somewhere soon.
 

Shamoan

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I pretend nothing and to whitewash the whole defense as "******"
does a severe injustice to the solid talent we have in the front 7 and a couple of capable secondary players. Some are deserving of that title, not all.
 

Shamoan

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Again, we aren't playing world beaters so all that really matters it's what's in the w:l column. He did better in the second half, so I'll give credit where it is due, but it's a case of too little too late...again. 1 outa 3 ain't good considering the meek level of competition.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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I pretend nothing and to whitewash the whole defense as "******"
does a severe injustice to the solid talent we have in the front 7 and a couple of capable secondary players. Some are deserving of that title, not all.

Didn't call the defense ****** or a specific individual, called the talent level ******, which it is. Comparatively speaking, with the LSU, bamas, OMs and auburns of the SEC.

I acknowledged the front 7 has some good starting talent, but the roster doesn't compare with the elite teams. That's a fact....which makes what sermon did the 2nd Half most impressive.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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Again, we aren't playing world beaters so all that really matters it's what's in the w:l column. He did better in the second half, so I'll give credit where it is due, but it's a case of too little too late...again. 1 outa 3 ain't good considering the meek level of competition.
Then blame the offense. Scoring 6 points in 3 3/4 quarters against LSU and 20 points against USA isn't gonna cut it.

Which is why I said your frustration is misplaced.
 

tired

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answer the question. Keep in mind we aren't playing offensive juggernauts. The scores you listed are those of south Alabama, South Carolina, and laughably inept lsu. Again, what are you seeing that convinces you sermon has what it takes? Please don't dodge the question again.

Fournette is pretty juggernauty.
 

SaintsDoc

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First, his name is Sirmon. He shut down LSU for 2nd half. His defense is making strides despite playing on one leg so to speak. Lastly, it's the offense stupid, that's killing this program.
 

engie

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I have reserved judgement until his point and have given sermon what I feel like is enough leash considering the circumstances, but what has he done schematically to attempt to mask our obvious defensive weaknesses?

You should have reserved your judgement for one more half, but your ability to stick your foot in your mouth on DCs is legendary -- so let it rip.
 

Dogariffic

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The defense could not get off the field in the first half. Played much better in the second as they got a few breathers with better O support. My only thought on the D is I thought overall Lb play would be a strength. Too many missed tackles. I limp the safety tackling in there as well .
 
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