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No one tells TnT how to run their program.
Yeah I mean because every coach finishes their contract.
Didn’t he run for President?
It is bothersome he lost his RAF match the same way, giving up a throw with a few seconds remaining. Needs to work on his stalling.
Just a gut feeling. I don’t think she ends the Brands career getting fired with a few years left on his contract unless Carver is almost empty for home meets.
Might want to prepare yourself. Attendance is on a freefall.
Maybe they can head over to the NLWC and do PEDs with Brooke’s and Gilman to speed up their recovery.
Due to the combo of jacked up ticket prices and emaciated on the mat performance?
Needs to get back to full match domination. I know he's got the goods.
I think a lot of our wrestlers have the tools; I think it’s a mental block holding a lot of our guys back from wrestling to their full potential.
He has to stop FULLY engaging AND pressing FORWARD with short time left. I know stalling isn't in his DNA, but match tactics with short time left gives you NO advantage pressing positions with a lead. In fact, you are giving your opponent his best chance to hit a desperation move by fully presenting yourself while TIRED...Dan Dennis, OF ALL PEOPLE, should know this!
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If the IronCooCoo actually knew what the rule was we would not have the entertainment value of reading his ALLCAPS scream about Lord Spencer getting robbed of a point (that was clearly not a point by the rules - this year's or any previous year's). It's better when he just goes off on stuff he is completely wrong on.
For those posters who actually do care about knowing the rules, you probably should clarify that this is in reference to the new grounding pushout rules. There are a couple more situations than what you posted, but, yes, if grounded, just having your legs/feet out of the circle does not result in a pushout point. Your chest/head either needs to be out of the cylinder or in contact with the mat. Again, if grounded.
Internal wiring(instinct). Pretty much what takes over when you are tired. Very hard to coach out of someone...
Lol, how did I know you'd go there? You don't think maybe, just maybe the guy(s) whose life mantra(s) has been "forward, pressure, attack, attack, attack" might not be the best late match defense coaches?
Did you even WATCH the match?
Lee was on his HEELS and BACKING UP when Lilledahl hit the hail-mary headlock. Lee was not pressing FORWARD with short time left.
Saturday Night Lights on X: "Luke Lilledahl just won the U.S. Open in unreal fashion. Down late, Lilledahl hit a lefty headlock to take out Spencer Lee, 5-4, in the 57 kg finals. Massive moment. Massive win. What a finish. https://t.co/THFuYmnYfr" / X
Tell me you know nothing about wrestling then.I watched EVERY part of it. He went full over under which is WHY Luke was able to hit the headlock...sheesh you can't be serious... look at his head position too, he is fully pressed forward in a position that is the LITERAL OPPOSITE of disengaged...
FloWrestling on X: "Luke Lilledahl headlocks Spencer Lee in the final seconds for the win
https://t.co/x4pX0dkZwX" / XHe should have been sprawling and BACKING out of that position. Instead he came forward and up with the arms....hell watch his feet too. They don't go backwards at ALL. He plants and pressures FORWARD....try hitting a headlock with someone bellying down and backing away, it is next to impossible...
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Tell me you know nothing about wrestling then.I watched EVERY part of it. He went full double unders which is WHY Luke was able to hit the headlock...sheesh you can't be serious... look at his head position too, he is fully pressed forward in a position that is the LITERAL OPPOSITE of disengaged...
FloWrestling on X: "Luke Lilledahl headlocks Spencer Lee in the final seconds for the win
You really are clueless. If you think that was pressing FORWARD (while backing up four times), there really is nothing that anyone can do for you.
We CLEARLY watched the end of two different matches.
FYI - "He went full double unders". lol
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In the headlock exchange did his feet go backwards at ALL? The answer is no, clear as day. All he had to do was throw his feet back and the match was over...To be EXACT with that sequence, Lilledahl shoots, Lee sprawls and comes up STRAIGHT FORWARD INTO AN OVER UNDER AND PLANTS HIS FEET, even circling forward. How is that even debated???
Read what you quoted above. I said over under....even if it was mispoken about 1 arm over and 1 arm under, the point would still stay 100% the same, would it not? You are nitpicking an irrelevant part of the position based on memory and not freshly watching the match. The entire point was going into a full upper body position while PLANTING his feet with pressure FORWARD...
LMFAO, the ULTIMATE DEFLECTION when even the still shot you posted shows how wrong you are. I love it, thanks for this!Pressing forward / backing up, double-unders / double-overs - it is all the same.
Your original post, which you edited and then lied about can be seen because it was quoted before you edited it. I have now spent too much time today reading about another one of your goal-post moving squabbles in a vain attempt to prove some useless point.
The fact is Lee lost..again... that does not inspire confidence in his chances for a world/olympic gold. Not to mention his Olympic finals match where his only points came from pushouts and he was taken down twice.
I didn’t lie about anything. I even answered that I went off memory. Do you think one arm over instead of under changes my argument in ANY way? If you do you are completely clueless about wrestling positions and the entire point of my argument…
The best part is I didn’t even start the argument…
jfc this is the worst analysis of all time
I agree.
My opinion is this: He is not good at sitting on leads because he hasn’t had to do it as much as some other elite guys who wrestle lots of close matches. Look at all of his big losses lately and even all the way back to Ramos. He thought too much and hesitated in positions instead of just wrestling and it cost him.
Regardless, unless he blew his UCL and gets surgery, I will pick him to win WTT and Final X. He tried to be a tactician in this match and take the 1 point push outs when it isn’t advantageous for him to do that. If he gets into wrestling positions he will win them the majority of the time. Don’t do the guy a favor and by not extending the positions.
The best endorsement possible coming from a guy that shouldn’t comment on actual wrestling above the high school level.
the restart starts at 12 seconds left. He should be circling right off that whistle. He doesn’t. Lilledahl shoots straight on 2 seconds later and Lee knee sprawls and comes immediately up and forward. Again, a mistake with a 1 pt lead and less than 10 secs left. After that he goes over/under plants his feet and circles FORWARD to the under OPENING up the headlock possibility to begin with.
NONE of that is smart wrestling with a small lead and short time left. Again, he should have circled back and up out of the sprawl and kept his hands low and circling. Make him shoot again sprawl and the match is over.
EVERYTHING he did maximized Luke’s chances to score. Luke still absolutely earned it, but it absolutely was poor short time management. You don’t need to score. You need to put yourself in the best situation possible to kill less than 10 seconds…
I am sorry, but it’s true. Willie’s insights fall off a cliff beyond high school. Even that is more about watching a bunch of matches vs. analyzing technique…