Self vs. Calipari

LineSkiCat14

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Since being at similar echelon schools.. Cal has a title, more FInal fours, a better head-to-head record. Kansas does have us beat in Big12 titles though.
 
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KS2008

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Self is the better in game coach, while Cal is the better recruiter. That's just my biased opinion. I do think you guys are being are going too far on ripping Cal.. Your team made some horrible turnovers just basically handing us the ball. The players need to be held accountable as well. Good luck the rest of the way
 
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Self is the better in game coach, while Cal is the better recruiter. That's just my biased opinion. I do think you guys are being are going too far on ripping Cal.. Your team made some horrible turnovers just basically handing us the ball. The players need to be held accountable as well. Good luck the rest of the way
Believe me, sensible fans realize Cal certainly isn't faultless, but the vast majority of UK fans love him and wouldn't trade him. Period.
Unfortunatley, we witness these types scurrying out of the woodwork after every loss...........as sure as the sun rises in the east. :flushed:
 
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Haha, sorry but this gave me a nice laugh tonight. I'm assuming you saw Big 12 won five games, but realize they only have 10, not 12 schools. It was a 5-5 push this year.
Opps.... yeah. Just assumed the Big 12 had 10 teams. Maybe someday...
 

RC_Texas

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Haha, sorry but this gave me a nice laugh tonight. I'm assuming you saw Big 12 won five games, but realize they only have 10, not 12 schools. It was a 5-5 push this year.

Well the SEC did win 6 games on Saturday...but beating MethZoo really shouldn't count.
 

Randy Bob

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Not bashing Cal I like Cal, but the last 2 games Self has been the better coach , just the facts..
 

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I for one love when they play each other. I think they're the best 2 coaches in the sport at the moment and when they go against each other it's always fun.

No way their the two best coaches in basketball. They are two of the best recruiters, but there are other coaches who do just as much, with less.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
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JoeBeeHall

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You said in other posts that you didn't even watch the game. Now you are claiming that the Refs beat your team. Blue Bloods don't blame losses on Refs, bad bounces, the sun was in their eyes or there wasn't enough air in the ball. Get a grip. You are making BBN look bad.
Nothing looks as bad as a whole team not helping a minor girl while she was being attacked. Great character on that club .
 
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Nothing looks as bad as a whole team not helping a minor girl while she was being attacked. Great character on that club .

Dude, I'm as disappointed as anyone in the on court performance yesterday, but I'm guessing you didn't follow the details of the "rape case". Plenty other ways to come at the Jayhawks with leverage in the argument than falsely accusing someone of rape, which is what you are doing. Just something that really bothers me. Had a friend falsely accused of sexual harassment. The lie was ultimately uncovered, but almost ruined his life.
 

RC_Texas

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Nothing looks as bad as a whole team not helping a minor girl while she was being attacked. Great character on that club .

Interesting...I just read Proverbs 26:4 a few days ago. Seems like that covers this subject. You have a good night.
 

JoeBeeHall

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Interesting...I just read Proverbs 26:4 a few days ago. Seems like that covers this subject. You have a good night.
I bet if that was your daughter you would be wanting an eye for an eye .You have a crappy day azzwipe.
 

JoeBeeHall

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Dude, I'm as disappointed as anyone in the on court performance yesterday, but I'm guessing you didn't follow the details of the "rape case". Plenty other ways to come at the Jayhawks with leverage in the argument than falsely accusing someone of rape, which is what you are doing. Just something that really bothers me. Had a friend falsely accused of sexual harassment. The lie was ultimately uncovered, but almost ruined his life.
I am not accusing anyone they were witnesses. How would you like it if you knew someone could have stopped your mom from being attacked and didn't.
 
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I am not accusing anyone they were witnesses. How would you like it if you knew someone could have stopped your mom from being attacked and didn't.

Ok, I guess that's what I mean by following the details. They were not "eyewitnesses" (which means they actually observed or heard something illegal). They were "witnesses" which is a different legal term. All the latter means is they could have walked into the dorm that night, saw the girl in the lobby, walked right past and into their rooms to play Xbox and not hear or see anything else. They would still be witnesses.

The fact they were witnesses and not eyewitnesses basically means they either saw the girl or suspect that night, at some point, but didn't see/hear anything illegal.
 

JoeBeeHall

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Ok, I guess that's what I mean by following the details. They were not "eyewitnesses" (which means they actually observed or heard something illegal). They were "witnesses" which is a different legal term. All the latter means is they could have walked into the dorm that night, saw the girl in the lobby, walked right past and into their rooms to play Xbox and not hear or see anything else. They would still be witnesses.

The fact they were witnesses and not eyewitnesses basically means they either saw the girl or suspect that night, at some point, but didn't see/hear anything illegal.
So what is the legal term if they saw it happen ?
 
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So what is the legal term if they saw it happen ?
Eyewitness is the technical term for viewing a crime. Witness just means you saw...something else, whatever that may be.

To take it to the extreme let's say you saw a couple having a lovely meal while out on a date. Police later come find you because the woman you saw shows up dead in the morning. You're not an eyewitness, but a witness who could at least place the man with the woman that night. You obviously didn't know something bad would later happen.
 

JoeBeeHall

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Eyewitness is the technical term for viewing a crime. Witness just means you saw...something else, whatever that may be.

To take it to the extreme let's say you saw a couple having a lovely meal while out on a date. Police later come find you because the woman you saw shows up dead in the morning. You're not an eyewitness, but a witness who could at least place the man with the woman that night. You obviously didn't know something bad would later happen.
So the witness saw her with their ears ? Could they still have witrnessed the event or not ?
 

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So lets get this straight, kansas choke jobs in the tourney is because they are tired from their hard conference play,and if they were in the sec they would have it sooooo easy he would rest his players for the tourney and win them all the time? Is that what you are telling me?
Not to mention the *** beatings Cal has put on Self on several occasions. I'm not sure these people are fans or we have a giant Troll infestation!
 

CalsKittens

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Believe me, sensible fans realize Cal certainly isn't faultless, but the vast majority of UK fans love him and wouldn't trade him. Period.
Unfortunatley, we witness these types scurrying out of the woodwork after every loss...........as sure as the sun rises in the east. :flushed:
They are like cock roaches in a trailer park. Some one just turned out the lights and its like a circus. They are bad fans or Troll infestations.
 

brianpoe

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Self obvi is a far better regular season coach but since his players are tired from the regular season beating they always choke in the tourney.

If self coached at UK he'd have at least 4 rings.

ACC teams play in a good conference and still win titles.

Who besides KU wins titles in the B12?



Just another previously banned troll back to provide meaningless entertainment...
 
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Montana81

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I couldn't deal with Self's post season ineptitude. They're probably going to get another 1 seed this year. If they lose before the FF again Kansas fans are going to be furious.

Our regular season inconsistencies drive me up a wall but if I had to trade one for the other ill take the Final Fours over the conference titles.