See ya Art Briles...

Shmuley

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Beaver Sphincter Factor Forecast = 9.6, up from previous high of 9.4. Expected to increase.
 

patdog

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Yep. Only difference is we only know about Butch covering up 1 rape, not multiple ones like Briles. But 1 should be enough to make him unemployable.
 

Shmuley

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Is there any doubt that those pieces of **** will drop it after 5 on Friday of a long holiday weekend? No reasonable doubt.
 

121Josey

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Is there any doubt that those pieces of **** will drop it after 5 on Friday of a long holiday weekend? No reasonable doubt.

Somebody would doubt it, maybe themselves, because they say, "We really can't wait to tell our side of the story"

"Once the school presents its response to the NCAA, that response will be made public, Bjork said.
“We knew this was coming, and we have prepared an unbelievable response that you will soon read and see for yourself,” Bjork told the crowd at the Rebel Road Trip stop in Tupelo in April. “We are amazingly confident in the integrity of how and why we do things. We will tell our side of the story. We really can’t wait to tell our side of the story.”

ETA: Somebody somewhere is giggling like little school girl, saying, "We really didn't need the extra-30 days. We did it because then we could wait until Memorial Day Weekend to release the info. It now looks like we really wanted to release the info but couldn't until now."
 
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engie

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Need to get on the horn with those 2 4* OL they signed that don't show up there till next week
 

patdog

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I don't know why everyone seems so sure they're going to release it at all. This is going to be just like the response to Steve's FOIA request. There's a deadline to respond, they request an extension, get the extension, and then give him next to nothing. They'll probably release something late tomorrow afternoon. But I doubt it will be the full NOA and response. It'll be just very limited and edited bits and pieces.
 

johnson86-1

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I don't know why everyone seems so sure they're going to release it at all. This is going to be just like the response to Steve's FOIA request. There's a deadline to respond, they request an extension, get the extension, and then give him next to nothing. They'll probably release something late tomorrow afternoon. But I doubt it will be the full NOA and response. It'll be just very limited and edited bits and pieces.

The chances they release it just went up.

But I think you're right that they don't release it at all. Having it buried in the news cycle doesn't help them that much. What matters is whether their players and or recruits can see it. They can always hope they keep it under wraps until after another signing day (which seems like it would be hard), but at the very least, they can try to keep it from affecting their current team's morale and not give the younger players the idea that they need to look into transferring now before they get stuck on short h anded team their junior and senior year.
 

patdog

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I think their strategy ever since they got the letter was to keep it under wraps until everyone in this year's signing class enrolls in school.
 

121Josey

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I don't know why everyone seems so sure they're going to release it at all.

Because they have told media insiders that that is what they are going to do. They aren't going to go back on their word now that (favorable) stories have been prepared. However, lying about their actions in this investigation would be the most TUNS thing EVA.
 

patdog

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I know what they said. But it's pretty naive, and ignores all their past history, to just take them at their word on that.
 

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Can someone explain to me why Baylor has to follow Title XI?... I was thinking they were a private school and didn't receive federal funding and therefore didn't have to follow federal guidelines like Title XI
 

121Josey

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I know what they said. But it's pretty naive, and ignores all their past history, to just take them at their word on that.

It's pretty naive to think that they want to make more enemies from people in persuasive positions, who have the resources to conduct an actual journalistic investigation. TUNS doesn't want this broadcast and they are not in a position to control the narrative, so they need help. The mob mentality of everyone associated with TUNS makes silence not an option - not the NCAA. It's not that hard to see.
 

121Josey

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Can someone explain to me why Baylor has to follow Title XI?... I was thinking they were a private school and didn't receive federal funding and therefore didn't have to follow federal guidelines like Title XI

Because Title XI follows Title X.**
 

johnson86-1

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I think their strategy ever since they got the letter was to keep it under wraps until everyone in this year's signing class enrolls in school.

wasn't even thinking about this year's class not being on campus yet, but that makes a lot more sense and is probably their primary goal at this point.
 

johnson86-1

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It's pretty naive to think that they want to make more enemies from people in persuasive positions, who have the resources to conduct an actual journalistic investigation. TUNS doesn't want this broadcast and they are not in a position to control the narrative, so they need help. The mob mentality of everyone associated with TUNS makes silence not an option - not the NCAA. It's not that hard to see.

They have already made some media look stupid. Of course that got them through signing day. They may not view delaying until the next significant date as important enough to burn any more bridges.
 

johnson86-1

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Can someone explain to me why Baylor has to follow Title XI?... I was thinking they were a private school and didn't receive federal funding and therefore didn't have to follow federal guidelines like Title XI


I suspect they receive a lot of federal money through research grants and I'm guessing pell grants count too.
 

patdog

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Just wait and see what comes out tomorrow. You're going to be disappointed. There will be a few rumblings from the media, notably not from the Clarion Ledger, but nothing too bad.
 

121Josey

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wasn't even thinking about this year's class not being on campus yet, but that makes a lot more sense and is probably their primary goal at this point.

Besides the fact that they've either seen or been told what's in the NOA, there is no punishment in the NOA. And they can still transfer just as easy in August as they can in late May.
 

121Josey

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They have already made some media look stupid. Of course that got them through signing day. They may not view delaying until the next significant date as important enough to burn any more bridges.

You missed the part about "people in persuasive positions, who have the resources to conduct an actual journalistic investigation." That's not "some media".
 

121Josey

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Just wait and see what comes out tomorrow. You're going to be disappointed. There will be a few rumblings from the media, notably not from the Clarion Ledger, but nothing too bad.

"Nothing too bad." Good job there, BjorkDog. You'll probably tell us next that "we've expected this and known about it for months." If nothing comes out tomorrow, I will only be as disappointed as you will be if something comes out tomorrow.
 

engie

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Besides the fact that they've either seen or been told what's in the NOA, there is no punishment in the NOA. And they can still transfer just as easy in August as they can in late May.

In August they are sitting a year. In May, prior to reporting, they've got a pretty good chance to be immediately eligible elsewhere.
 

johnson86-1

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Besides the fact that they've either seen or been told what's in the NOA, there is no punishment in the NOA. And they can still transfer just as easy in August as they can in late May.

I seriously doubt they have been upfront with recruits about what's in the NOA. There not going to run around telling 18 year olds the content of an NOA that they want to keep secret. And if what was in the NOA didn't risk serious punishment, I doubt they'd be stonewalling the way they have, so I'm guessing the fact that the NOA doesn't contain punishments won't matter; if recruits asked other people about allegatiosn in teh NOA, they would be scared off.

And I'd say it's not as easy to transfer in August after enrolling as it is to just not enroll. And it's definitely not as easy to transfer mid-september as it is to not enroll. Also, in addition to the logistics, I think maybe the clock to play out your eligibility starts when you enroll and not when you sign?
 

patdog

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I would love to be proven wrong. But I won't be. UM's not going to release the letter or the response until they're forced to. And there's nothing forcing them to release it tomorrow. Just like there's been nothing preventing them from releasing it at any time over the last 4+ months.
 

121Josey

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In August they are sitting a year. In May, prior to reporting, they've got a pretty good chance to be immediately eligible elsewhere.

Is a LOI not binding for that school year? Is that not why MN didn't sign a LOI?
 

engie

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I seriously doubt they have been upfront with recruits about what's in the NOA.

There's a couple of quotes from recruits out there from January that are pretty interesting...Coach Freeze said it was all previous staff, it's no big deal, yada yada.
 
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