Second half stats on the road - pretty eye opening

[Degaz-RU]

My 14-year old son is home sick from school today , and he analyzed RU's 2nd half performances in our road losses. He looked at the last 10 minutes of each game (let's call it the 4th quarter), and calculated the scoring differential from the point where we had the highest deficit during the 4th quarter, to the end of the game. The data shows what we all know to be true..., that Rutgers turns up the defense in the last 10 minutes of the 2nd half when they're on the road and losing.

Illinois: We were down 52-46 and closed on a 5-2 run

Iowa: We were down by 9 and closed on a 13-9 run

Michigan @ MSG: We were down by 14 and closed on a 17-9 run

Maryland: We were down by 8 and closed on a 12-9 run

OSU: We were down by 17 and closed on a 22-11 run

Wisky: We were down by 16 and closed on a 27-19 run

All told, we outscored our road opponents 86 to 59 in these time frames, and lost these games by 3, 5, 6, 5, 6, and 8 points. If you omit the last minute or so, when our offense tends to sputter or choke after making the big "run" to pull us even or within one possession, the differential is likely even larger. Iowa is the best example of this, as I think we took the lead by one point before sputtering down the stretch.

This trend is probably due to desperation to get back in games, but I just wish they could bottle the effort in the first 30 minutes of the game.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

my conclusion.....

maybe your son isn't that sick!

his data does support we play better as the hunter.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Have him analyze the last 10 of the 1st half of those losses.

 

[fluoxetine]

If you look from the point at which the opponent had their largest lead you will ALWAYS out score them from there.

 

[OJRutgers]

I wonder what the analysis of the last 10 minutes of the 1st half reveals. We seem to lose focus or have weird substitions or something. Opponents seem hit some big three point shots close to half time.

 

[bac2therac]

the more telling thing is the same script, same movie, same conclusion every single road game. It is what it is at this point.

 

[Knight Ed_rivals]

Kind of like losing teams in football getting yards trying to catch up at the end of game. The other teams played conservative to hold onto the win. In these cases they were all successful.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

My 14-year old son is home sick from school today , and he analyzed RU's 2nd half performances in our road losses. He looked at the last 10 minutes of each game (let's call it the 4th quarter), and calculated the scoring differential from the point where we had the highest deficit during the 4th quarter, to the end of the game. The data shows what we all know to be true..., that Rutgers turns up the defense in the last 10 minutes of the 2nd half when they're on the road and losing.

Illinois: We were down 52-46 and closed on a 5-2 run

Iowa: We were down by 9 and closed on a 13-9 run

Michigan @ MSG: We were down by 14 and closed on a 17-9 run

Maryland: We were down by 8 and closed on a 12-9 run

OSU: We were down by 17 and closed on a 22-11 run

Wisky: We were down by 16 and closed on a 27-19 run

All told, we outscored our road opponents 86 to 59 in these time frames, and lost these games by 3, 5, 6, 5, 6, and 8 points. If you omit the last minute or so, when our offense tends to sputter or choke after making the big "run" to pull us even or within one possession, the differential is likely even larger. Iowa is the best example of this, as I think we took the lead by one point before sputtering down the stretch.

This trend is probably due to desperation to get back in games, but I just wish they could bottle the effort in the first 30 minutes of the game.

I have noticed this pattern ...and it’s even more exaggerated because we lost the last 60-120 seconds of Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Maryland, ans wisxonosn

Have your son look at the number of three point attempts allowed in the last 8 minute of our 8 big ten losses. You will be surprised on how low it is...and how important a role it plays in our ability to make runs. And why I have been yelling all year thar we need to do more to take away the three point line and make our opponents shoot twos ...

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If you look from the point at which the opponent had their largest lead you will ALWAYS out score them from there.

WRONG!!!!....you can tie them from that point forward

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

the more telling thing is the same script, same movie, same conclusion every single road game. It is what it is at this point.

until we lose at PSU and at home to Maryland and then are forced to beat Purdue and we end up winning by 30 at Mackey

 

[RUsojo]

Answer is we play our best 5-7 guys for the most part in last ten minutes of games after cycling through 9 guys the first 30 minutes. Pike likes to stick to his subbing trends early even if it’s unnecessary.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

 

[theRU]

Our first halfs have been terrible

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Answer is we play our best 5-7 guys for the most part in last ten minutes of games after cycling through 9 guys the first 30 minutes. Pike likes to stick to his subbing trends early even if it’s unnecessary.

Winner winner chicken dinner. Time to shorten that bench. Carter, Mathis and Young are all playing too much.

 

[richthedentist]

I have noticed this pattern ...and it’s even more exaggerated because we lost the last 60-120 seconds of Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Maryland, ans wisxonosn

Have your son look at the number of three point attempts allowed in the last 8 minute of our 8 big ten losses. You will be surprised on how low it is...and how important a role it plays in our ability to make runs. And why I have been yelling all year thar we need to do more to take away the three point line and make our opponents shoot twos ...

Exactly even in the games we won if we had just played our men straight up and not given the other teams wide open 3's like we played in the last ten minutes of each game we would have won at least 3-4 more games not sure why this is not a priority in the beginning of games

 

[RUsojo]

Winner winner chicken dinner. Time to shorten that bench. Carter, Mathis and Young are all playing too much.

Would change this to Carter Mulcahy and Geo. The first two way too much, geo just a few minutes.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Would change this to Carter Mulcahy and Geo. The first two way too much, geo just a few minutes.

We will disagree here. Also, If you look at Box Plus/Minus (BPM), you will find that only Doucoure’s is lower than Young, Mathis, and Carter. Myles Johnson is clearly the highest on the team, yet for some reason his minutes are getting cut. Johnson needs to be on the court unless he is in foul trouble. I’m not sure how Pike doesn’t see that.

 

[SJScarlet]

We will disagree here. Also, If you look at Box Plus/Minus (BPM), you will find that only Doucoure’s is lower than Young, Mathis, and Carter. Myles Johnson is clearly the highest on the team, yet for some reason his minutes are getting cut. Johnson needs to be on the court unless he is in foul trouble. I’m not sure how Pike doesn’t see that.

While this is just based on observation (plus the fact that Carter has been starting), it’s clear to me Johnson is not fully healthy and hasn’t been for a while.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

While this is just based on observation (plus the fact that Carter has been starting), it’s clear to me Johnson is not fully healthy and hasn’t been for a while.

I thought Pike was not starting him to stop him from getting the inevitable first and possibly second foul that he almost always commits in the first five minutes. I actually agree with this strategy although he kept him out Way too long while Reuvers was destroying Carter. IMO, we lost that game in the first 8 minutes.

I certainly hope he’s not hurt. If the last few games is any indication of what we can expect from Johnson, we won’t win another game this year.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Exactly even in the games we won if we had just played our men straight up and not given the other teams wide open 3's like we played in the last ten minutes of each game we would have won at least 3-4 more games not sure why this is not a priority in the beginning of games

Having cliff and another big allows us to play up

Myles was on the court for most of those rallies ...something to consider on how important he is on defense ....and how much more potential we can get up on defender on and above the arc to prevent 3 ball attempts

 

[ILikePike]

We will disagree here. Also, If you look at Box Plus/Minus (BPM), you will find that only Doucoure’s is lower than Young, Mathis, and Carter. Myles Johnson is clearly the highest on the team, yet for some reason his minutes are getting cut. Johnson needs to be on the court unless he is in foul trouble. I’m not sure how Pike doesn’t see that.

Where do you find the box plus/minus stats? I would be curious to see the exact numbers.