SEC schedule really hurt UK

BrandonQuick

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Obviously you had a great year, but beating ND, Wisconsin and Duke consecutively was going to be a tall, tall order. Those three teams are easily better than any single team UK played all year. The SEC did you no favors as your young team developed poor habits and complacency playing absolutely no one in the league. Also shows just how difficult it is to win a title.
 

KYBallCoach

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The SEC had 8 Top 50 teams at one point in the season this year and last year we had two Final Four teams to represent the conference (3 in the Elite Eight)
 

Aike

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We were physically abused and got a crappy whistle on the road all through the SEC, so we were used to games like this. The only difference was SEC refs tended to swallow their whistles once they knew we wouldn't cover. Wisconsin got bailed out.
 

BrandonQuick

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The SEC didn't hurt you last year because the league was actually decent. Florida was legit. Who would you say was your best win this year? Louisville? Kansas? ND aside...I'm talking regular season games.
 

mdlUK.1

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:
Obviously you had a great year, but beating ND, Wisconsin and Duke consecutively was going to be a tall, tall order. Those three teams are easily better than any single team UK played all year. The SEC did you no favors as your young team developed poor habits and complacency playing absolutely no one in the league. Also shows just how difficult it is to win a title.
Dumbest post ever! Please explain how the SEC hurt us. We won 38 straight games, including wins over ul, unc, ku and several other tournament teams. So how did the SEC hurt us?
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

Not sure how it's relevant who I support.
Did the pathetic Big 10 schedule hurt Wisconsin?


Your thesis doesn't make sense. That's the problem. Go dream up another fantastical myth for your narrative.
 

BrandonQuick

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I guess my real point is, UK would have been far better served playing in the ACC or Big 10 and losing a couple games. It's not like you had a choice though.
 

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

The SEC didn't hurt you last year because the league was actually decent. Florida was legit. Who would you say was your best win this year? Louisville? Kansas? ND aside...I'm talking regular season games.

the SEC was much improved this season. we didn't just beat a lot of teams in the NCAAT this season, we humilated them.
 

BrandonQuick

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If you can't see how playing mediocre to poor teams
for all of January and February is disadvantageous, I'm not sure I have the ability to explain it to you. And someone else called the Big 10 weak? With two FF teams?
 

mdlUK.1

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

If you can't see how playing mediocre to poor teams
for all of January and February is disadvantageous, I'm not sure I have the ability to explain it to you. And someone else called the Big 10 weak? With two FF teams?
We made it to the final four, so I'm not sure how a loss or 2 in the acc or b10 would have helped us. We had an uncharacteristic bad stretch, up 4 that allowed a couple terrible calls by the refs decide the game.

so tell how your team did in the tournament?
 

BrandonQuick

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hmmm...maybe playing better teams would have led to better game planning and execution when you needed it most.
 

MrKentucky

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If only we could have played in the mighty Big XII. Our average margin of victory against that supposed "top conference" was what...35 points?
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thefolker

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Why does it matter to you? We don't control how good the SEC is so I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is.
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JohnBlue

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They lost one game all season in the next to the last game. Kind of dumb to say that they should have played someone else when they already played one of the toughest schedules and went 3-0 against the acc. Every team this year except UK lost multiple games, they lost one to a good team and it didn't matter who they played before. You're acting as if they didn't stand a chance last night.
 

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

I guess my real point is, UK would have been far better served playing in the ACC or Big 10 and losing a couple games.
what conference did Notre Dame win? what conference did No. Carolina and Louisville play in this season? your "real point" is simply useless. Kentucky beat all 3.

one big ten team got curb-stomped by 20 last night. the other big ten team received a huge gift with an ignored shot clock violation that allowed Wisconsin to tie the game instead of having 3 empty/scoreless possessions after having last scored at the 4:28 mark. it changed the game.

Kentucky's SEC schedule had absolutely ZERO to do with why they aren't playing Monday night.


This post was edited on 4/5 9:55 AM by 2u0s0c1
 

mdlUK.1

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

hmmm...maybe playing better teams would have led to better game planning and execution when you needed it most.
Did it help your team? Even with a patsy schedule in the tournament, your ul team lost to a mediocre Mich St team.
 
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best team doesn't always win... i can think of MANY duke, unc, kansas et al. teams who were obviously, or arguably the best team of the year who both did and did not play strong conference slates which were not champions
 

BrandonQuick

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so playing against, duke, Virginia, Louisville, NC state, and ND night in, night out wouldn't have better prepared your players and team for the toughest three game stretch of your season? I don't have a point?
 

mdlUK.1

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

so playing against, duke, Virginia, Louisville, NC state, and ND night in, night out wouldn't have better prepared your players and team for the toughest three game stretch of your season? I don't have a point?
Uh, we beat your ul team. Plus unc and nd. Va and Nc State LOST and did not make the final four. The only point you have is covered by your hat.
 

BrandonQuick

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You hadn't played three decent teams in a row all season, much less three good teams. That was a function of your conference affiliation.
 

2u0s0c1

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

so playing against, duke, Virginia, Louisville, NC state, and ND night in, night out wouldn't have better prepared your players and team for the toughest three game stretch of your season? I don't have a point?
4 of those 5 teams didn't make the F4 so you have a 20% chance of your premise having any substance. Kentucky beat the ACC champs in Notre Dame. beat North Carolina. beat Louisville.

Duke and Virginia played only 1 time during the season. nobody gets better playing Wake Forest twice - ClemU twice - Boston College twice. Georgia Tech twice. Pittsburgh twice. Virginia Tech twice.
 

probasketballfan

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Same thing happened o UNLV in 91. Playing in a watered down conference did them in when they got up against good competition..
 
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no, we didnt get by 30 to what would go on to be one of the better teams in history because we didn't show up... we got beat after an emotionally deflating shot clock violation and failure to execute and recover
 

BrandonQuick

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A-ND was not the Acc champ. They won the conference tournament. Big difference.
B-you have to make the FF to be good?


Originally posted by 2u0s0c1:

Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

so playing against, duke, Virginia, Louisville, NC state, and ND night in, night out wouldn't have better prepared your players and team for the toughest three game stretch of your season? I don't have a point?
4 of those 5 teams didn't make the F4 so you have a 20% chance of your premise having any substance. Kentucky beat the ACC champs in Notre Dame. beat North Carolina. beat Louisville.

Duke and Virginia played only 1 time during the season. nobody gets better playing Wake Forest twice - ClemU twice - Boston College twice. Georgia Tech twice. Pittsburgh twice. Virginia Tech twice.
 
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Don't agree, there were some good SEC teams and some good conference games, running the shot clock down too low is what killed the Cat's not the badgers.
 

JohnBlue

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Wisconsin never defeated a top 20 team in the regular season. That's how failed the logic of this thread is. Didn't keep them from reaching a final four either.
 

WeWant9

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The SEC was god awful this year, I don't see how anyone could defend it. However, I don't think that's what did UK in to losing to Wisconsin, that just seems stupid. Wisconsin was a good team and they wanted revenge for their loss last year. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Duke roll past Wisconsin, as they put so much into this game. Our inability to adjust our schemes and continually trying what wasn't working is what really hurt us.
 

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Originally posted by JohnBlue_:
Wisconsin never defeated a top 20 team in the regular season. That's how failed the logic of this thread is. Didn't keep them from reaching a final four either.
Pretty much /thread right there.
 

Graves51

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the SEC did suck this year, Kentucky blew it, I would give most of the blame to the coaching. GET OVER IT
 

tbizzy

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Originally posted by BrandonQuick:

You hadn't played three decent teams in a row all season, much less three good teams. That was a function of your conference affiliation.
Dude, you are so on point, but these guys are too upset to understand you. Probably best to let it go. Many here seem to think they lost to a missed shot-clock violation and not Wisconsin (ignoring that UK was lucky Trey Lyles didn't even get a flagrant 1 foul called on what was a flagrant 2 foul).

I don't think realize how terrible the SEC was this year in basketball and don't see how playing Virginia, Duke, Notre Dame, and NC would help them be more battle-tested than playing Tenn, Ole Miss, Alabama, and Miss St.did.
 

mdlUK.1

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Oh great, an iu fan trying to tell UK what it takes to win.
 
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Originally posted by tbizzy:
Many here seem to think they lost to a missed shot-clock violation and not Wisconsin
Only someone with little or no experience actually playing competitive sports at some level higher than pee-wee could fail to understand the magnitude of that moment
 

carbonlib23

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actually, the winner of the Acc Tournament is recognized as the "winner of the conference".


that was notre dame
 

Bombur

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The SEC is a weak conference most years. Everyone knows that. There is nothing UK can do to change it. That is why UK schedules tough OOC games and preseason tourneys,
 

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The reason why UK lost last night was Frank and Dekker were the best 2 players on the court last night. UK did not rebound. Every power 5 conference has good teams and bad teams. UK had a chance to win last nights game that is all I ask. FF4 and 38-1 good season.

OP, UK had a chance to beat UConn last year and a couple of years ago as well. UConn just had the best player on the floor on respective nights (Kemba Walker and Shabazz Napier). I guess the SEC never prepares Kentucky to win the tournament. The American conference did not hurt UConn last year. Who did they play in that league? Take off your hater goggles and quit being a dumbass. Too many people on this board are upset to deal with you today!! GBB