I remember the Big East from a decade or so ago. Everyone would get in and all the East Coast media idjits would scream how great they were.
Then they'd all flop in the tournament because they weren't allowed to play prison ball
SEC looking pretty good so far
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Then they'd all flop in the tournament because they weren't allowed to play prison ball
Mizzou
Bama
Auburn
Tennessee
A&M and Miss St. lost
Am I losing my mind? Or is the SEC 4-2 at the moment?
Edit: losing my mind. Arkansas
Yeah. I edited.
The ESPN scoreboard shows me ranked teams only, even for the NCAA tourney. So the Ark-ILL game was hidden.
Hmm. What is the national perception of Gonzaga?
Personally, I want the SEC to be strong. When we win the SEC (which hasn't happened much lately), it further validates the strength of UK. I don't actively root for SEC teams because I too believe they can't stand UK and root against us. But, I want them to do well in the tourney against the power 5 conferences anyway.
This is very true.
I grew up in New Jersey. I didn’t even know non Big East sports existed until I visited Lexington when I was 13. Went to a game in Rupp and was immediately sold. Been a UK fan ever since.
But that East Coast media thing is real and that’s why Pete Gillan and some of those other CBS analysts in NY were so hight on Providence, UConn and Marquette.
Not making excuses because we’ve under achieved far too often in recent seasons but this is one of the reasons we end up with more losses than in decades past.
SEC used to get 3-5 teams in tourney maybe. The better the SEC is the more likely we are to have 2-3 more losses on the season. Trust me I get it, we are UK and we should win regardless. I feel the same way. When the schedule gets longer with more games and the competition gets harder that’s a recipe for more losses regardless.
That being said Cal needs to win some tournament games this year. He is on his last thread to prove he hasn’t totally lost the mojo he once had. Cats have a good draw and the possibility to make a run, just scary how inconsistent we’ve been all season long. Go big blue!
Exactly. The idea of playing hard games against tougher opponents results in more losses. However, the flip side, is that it should better prepare us for the tournament. Over the last few years, that hasn't been the case though.
How pissed would fans be if UK when 18-0 in the SEC and capped the tourney in the S16? F that. I don't want Mark Few or Gonzaga.
Think you have the wrong decade. Two SEC teams won titles in the 90s. 4 SEC teams made the FF.
The SEC in the 90's actually WAS pretty good. Top heavy, but good.
Final 4 in 93 - UK
Final 4 in 94 - Arky and Fla
Final 4 in 95 - Arky
Final 4 in 96 - UK and Miss St
Final 4 in 97 - UK
Final 4 in 98 - UK
UK didn't NEED a good SEC back then, but now they do (they way the seedings are done). Plus, there is nothing wrong with being "more" battle tested during the regular season. I have no problem pulling for SEC programs over teams from other leagues, on a case-by-case basis. Anyone pulling for Duke in this tournament in any game should be banned from the boards
Was referring to the overall depth of the conference. Its much better overall now than 30 years ago.
A little, Kentucky needs to get a foward who can shoot to go with Edwards and they will be good and maybe a shot blocker if Ugonna isn’t ready
Jalen Pickett reminded me of Chris Jackson. He is really smooth with the ball.
He is a really good plays maker, that white guy penn st had, is the type of shooter is wish Kentucky could get
100% in this camp now. I used to kind of root for other SEC teams until I woke up. They don't cheer for us, why am I going to cheer for them? What they do in the tournament has no bearing on what we do. I might half heartedly root for a couple of them, you'll never see me cheering for Tennessee though. Or Arkansas for that matter.
I do root for our fellow SEC members. And yes, I know most don't likely return the favor, but I don't really care. If they knew what was good for them, they'd root for UK too.
I do have selfish reasons, of course. I don't want to hear that our league is weak and a cakewalk, though that definitely wouldn't be said this year. Ultimately, if the league is doing well, it means UK has been challenged and has a good chance to advance. If the league is terrible, it likely means UK isn't as good as I may have thought.
Now, I don't "cheer" for these teams. It's merely a rooting interest. My hypocrisy goes only so far.
I guess that's where me and you (and many others) are different. I couldn't care less what people say about our league being a cakewalk. As long as we are winning in the league AND winning in the tournament I couldn't possibly care less about what anyone thinks about the rest of the teams in the league.I do root for our fellow SEC members. And yes, I know most don't likely return the favor, but I don't really care. If they knew what was good for them, they'd root for UK too.
I do have selfish reasons, of course. I don't want to hear that our league is weak and a cakewalk, though that definitely wouldn't be said this year. Ultimately, if the league is doing well, it means UK has been challenged and has a good chance to advance. If the league is terrible, it likely means UK isn't as good as I may have thought.
Now, I don't "cheer" for these teams. It's merely a rooting interest. My hypocrisy goes only so far.
I think it’s interesting that the 3/18/23 games with the remaining #1 Seeds all have an SEC team in the matchup. Alabama being a #1, then #8 Arkansas and #9 Auburn facing #1s Kansas and Houston, respectively. Should be some good games!
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Because over time SEC success should make the conference look better which in turn could lead to better future seeds for us.
Same here.I do root for our fellow SEC members. And yes, I know most don't likely return the favor, but I don't really care. If they knew what was good for them, they'd root for UK too.
I do have selfish reasons, of course. I don't want to hear that our league is weak and a cakewalk, though that definitely wouldn't be said this year. Ultimately, if the league is doing well, it means UK has been challenged and has a good chance to advance. If the league is terrible, it likely means UK isn't as good as I may have thought.
Now, I don't "cheer" for these teams. It's merely a rooting interest. My hypocrisy goes only so far.
I think this is way overstated, we earn good seeds with our own good play. Not with how our conference does. All of our best teams have earned 1 or 2 seeds and it didn’t matter how good or bad our conference was perceived to be.
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We aren't as far apart as you may think. I totally understand your perspective and I agree ultimately the only thing that really matters is how UK does.
I'll tell you something else I do that is similar. I often root for teams we've played to do well. I like seeing teams who played us well beat other teams. It tells me whether our win or loss means more.
Here's an example right now from the NIT- I'm kinda torn between who I'd rather see win between Michigan and Vandy. We played both and beat both, though the latter beat us twice late in the season. So, since Vandy is SEC, that's the tiebreaker. I'm for Vandy. Haha!
It may also have to do with being a fan of college basketball in general and not just a UK fan. That's me. We can agree to disagree, though.
You know I never understood when fans cheer for their conference teams.
Do y’all think Florida Tennessee or even non rivals like Arkansas or South Carolina cheers for us?
Do y’all think Florida Tennessee or even non rivals like Arkansas or South Carolina cheers for us?
The SEC won three titles, were runner-ups twice, and had three teams lose in the semifinals of the final four.
I have Alabama, Arkansas and Auburn in my 8-team draft. And they have me in 1st place currently.
I really liked Arkansas to do some damage.
I really liked Arkansas to do some damage.
Because in college sports everyone has different schedules so the perception of your conference has a direct affect on ranking/seeding. You see it clearly with SEC football. If your conference consistently dominates it boost the perception of every team in the conference which is good. It isn’t like pro sports where if teams in your division are bad that’s good for you, in college you want a strong conference.
Missouri and A&M really surprised me. I thought they would do better.
I'm old, have had season tickets since the early 70's. Been to countless Ncaa tournaments and have watched SEC fans from about every school cheer against us and hope we lose every game
That is the lamest argument ever. What teams not in our conference cheer for us? If our conference does well, it does reflect on us.
Okay smooth go Vols win this tournament if we don’t. I will tell you if we was to play Florida Atlantic for example Arkansas will be cheering against us or even a team like Houston they would cheer against us. If you think otherwise lord help you
And if you think Florida Atlantic or any other none conference teams pulls for us, lord help you.Okay smooth go Vols win this tournament if we don’t. I will tell you if we was to play Florida Atlantic for example Arkansas will be cheering against us or even a team like Houston they would cheer against us. If you think otherwise lord help you