SEC Commish (Greg Sankey)

Wildcats1st

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ANOTHER instance of weakness from our AD. UK the premiere hoops program in the country. The head coach complains year in and year out that winning the SEcT doesn’t help and barney no pressure on the SEc from position of strength. Meanwhile the B10 finally gets it and plays a week in advance. Will someone please wake this guy up and tell him his job is to advocate for our programs? Or just tell him to go be a yes man at another school. We need an aggressive AD to take on the massive corruption. You don’t let it get to the point of fans petitioning and in some cases threatening.
 

JPScott

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We need to bombard Greg Sankey's email with requests to move the SEC-T up 1 day. It is screwing over the SEC-T winner nearly every year. The committee clearly puts no emphasis on who wins the SEC-T.

This assumes the NCAA selection committee will do better given more time, which is a dubious assumption IMO.

The fact is the NCAA selection process is flawed. The need for human intervention saddles the process with a lot of unnecessary handicaps. Throw in politics, greed and incompetence and it’s not surprising to see inequities in the brackets.

The basic problems won’t be addressed until the committee itself is abolished.
 

Johnfarrel

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They were,talking during the game about Tennessee moving to a three had they won but it has never helped Kentucky to win it. I doubt it would have helped Tennessee. Having the game on Sunday makes it easy for the committee to ignore it.
 

billoliver40

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The Big 10 moved the tourney up because of schedule conflicts. Mitch Barnhart cannot decide where his school plays or is seeded.
I agree.....UK should be scheduled where they play the third place teams in all midmajors up to the final four.
Maybe if the Cats had beaten Kansas, or UCLA, Or hey, not finished FOURTH in the SEC and had to send a thank you note ArKansas for beating Missouri or just maybe not got swept by both Florida and Tennessee then maybe, just maybe we would have a reason to cry.

Way folks are talking the Cats don't deserve to suit up against a possible meeting against Arizona.

Don't know why we are even gonna send a team.
 

TBCat

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This assumes the NCAA selection committee will do better given more time, which is a dubious assumption IMO.

The fact is the NCAA selection process is flawed. The need for human intervention saddles the process with a lot of unnecessary handicaps. Throw in politics, greed and incompetence and it’s not surprising to see inequities in the brackets.

The basic problems won’t be addressed until the committee itself is abolished.
Yep.

Bottom line is the SEC tourny should not be looked at as a make up for 4 months of earlier struggles because it isn't. Our seeding was established before the tournament even tipped off. Nobody should look at the SEC tournament as anything more than a revenue generator. The true SEC champion is the regular season winner. Your seeding is established from November through the end of the season. Nothing is really changed in the SEC tournament. It's a glorified exhibition.
 

kybassfan

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This assumes the NCAA selection committee will do better given more time, which is a dubious assumption IMO.

The fact is the NCAA selection process is flawed. The need for human intervention saddles the process with a lot of unnecessary handicaps. Throw in politics, greed and incompetence and it’s not surprising to see inequities in the brackets.

The basic problems won’t be addressed until the committee itself is abolished.

Dead on the money.
 

serdi

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Sankey is worthless. You are wasting your time contacting him about anything. As one of the other writers said, he lost ALL credibility when let the Cheatin’ Dean Smiths walk.

We could have gone to the ACC in the early 90s. It was the biggest mistake for our basketball program we ever made.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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I honestly believe if Cal could find a way to take a dive in the SEC-T...without it being obvious...he would. He hates it and every year it becomes more obvious it is meaningless.
Lately I've come to view the SEC-T as a opportunity to get one of our most critical players hurt. If that happens in a year when we are a favorite for the Title you may see Cal go nuts on the whole thing.
 

Mike-D

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This assumes the NCAA selection committee will do better given more time, which is a dubious assumption IMO.

The fact is the NCAA selection process is flawed. The need for human intervention saddles the process with a lot of unnecessary handicaps. Throw in politics, greed and incompetence and it’s not surprising to see inequities in the brackets.

The basic problems won’t be addressed until the committee itself is abolished.

It’s almost as if they seed us with teams so that they hit the lottery early with viewership. The longer the tournament plays out, the less likely these big games happen. It’s all about the money.
 

sluggercatfan

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ANOTHER instance of weakness from our AD. UK the premiere hoops program in the country. The head coach complains year in and year out that winning the SEcT doesn’t help and barney no pressure on the SEc from position of strength. Meanwhile the B10 finally gets it and plays a week in advance. Will someone please wake this guy up and tell him his job is to advocate for our programs? Or just tell him to go be a yes man at another school. We need an aggressive AD to take on the massive corruption. You don’t let it get to the point of fans petitioning and in some cases threatening.
This is funny!!! Do you honestly think the sec commish gives a rats rear end about UK and it's bb...this is a football league first, second and third. I'll bet you UT didn't have 350 fans there today against UK
 

efudexto

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I believe that the 4/5 line is fair for the performance we had this year. They gave us a tough draw, but the seeding really isn't off....now back in 2014 when we likely should have been a 5, no worse than 6 was insane, but I don't think 5 is really off. Yes we have a tough draw and aren't playing close to home, but I don't feel like anything malicious was done toward our team this season. I have felt that way in the past, but really not this year. Let's play the games and see what happens.
 

YouKay

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I believe that the 4/5 line is fair for the performance we had this year. They gave us a tough draw, but the seeding really isn't off....now back in 2014 when we likely should have been a 5, no worse than 6 was insane, but I don't think 5 is really off. Yes we have a tough draw and aren't playing close to home, but I don't feel like anything malicious was done toward our team this season. I have felt that way in the past, but really not this year. Let's play the games and see what happens.

Sending UK to Boise while lower seed Mizzou gets to play in Nashville is insane. AND making UK play on Thursday is doubly insane.
 

Wildcats1st

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Sending UK to Boise while lower seed Mizzou gets to play in Nashville is insane. AND making UK play on Thursday is doubly insane.

It’s a smack in the face. It was a disrectful move for a fan aseveró that anchors college basketball. I don’t want preferential treatment I only want our fans, players and coaches to have a sense of fairness. You can hear it in cals voice. Screw the NCAA


Not many people would deal with the garbage cbb has thrown at him when the nba is always calling. He’s to be comended. It’s how I know he is blue through and through!
 
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FtCampbellCat

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Abolish the selection committee and I promise you that everyone who demanded it will HATE and scream conspiracy at whatever new system they use the very first time the seedings don't go their way.
 
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Ukbrassowtipin

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The tournament is fine where it's at...your flaw is pretending they care in the first place...only the acc tournament matters to them.
 

Catfan in Tn.

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Sankey is worthless. You are wasting your time contacting him about anything. As one of the other writers said, he lost ALL credibility when let the Cheatin’ Dean Smiths walk.

We could have gone to the ACC in the early 90s. It was the biggest mistake for our basketball program we ever made.
Don’t remember Kentucky having a chance to go to the ACC. In the early 90’s when the ACC was looking to expand, i see no mention of Kentucky. Florida State and Miami were on their list.
 
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Big John Stud

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ANOTHER instance of weakness from our AD. UK the premiere hoops program in the country. The head coach complains year in and year out that winning the SEcT doesn’t help and barney no pressure on the SEc from position of strength. Meanwhile the B10 finally gets it and plays a week in advance. Will someone please wake this guy up and tell him his job is to advocate for our programs? Or just tell him to go be a yes man at another school. We need an aggressive AD to take on the massive corruption. You don’t let it get to the point of fans petitioning and in some cases threatening.
The B1G moved their tournament up a week so they could play in MSG, it had nothing to with the NCAA Tournament. You guys spew so much ignorance, it's amazing.
 

Big John Stud

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Don’t remember Kentucky having a chance to go to the ACC. In the early 90’s when the ACC was looking to expand, i see no mention of Kentucky. Florida State and Miami were on their list.
Who in their right mind would leave the SEC for the ACC? Is all this money and stability hampering us?
 

bthaunert

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Sending UK to Boise while lower seed Mizzou gets to play in Nashville is insane. AND making UK play on Thursday is doubly insane.
We are a 5 seed (which our record, quad 1 wins, etc point to a fair seed), and when you’re a 5 seed, they usually send you to a location where you don’t have a a home court advantage over the 4 seed. Here is where the other 5 seeds play:

Ohio State - Boise
West Virginia - San Diego
Clemson - San Diego

Our location fits in exactly with where a 5 seed should be located. The fact they put us in the Atlanta region is shocking to me. That is the one regional site that gives us a home court advantage over any team in the tournament and they put us there.
 

JPScott

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Don’t remember Kentucky having a chance to go to the ACC. In the early 90’s when the ACC was looking to expand, i see no mention of Kentucky. Florida State and Miami were on their list.

Don’t remember specifically who said it, but if you listen to some of the audio interviews that Oscar Combs has been doing, people who would know have confirmed that UK was approached about joining the ACC.

I don’t know if it was ever officially confirmed at the time but it certainly was a rumor around the time the ACC was looking to expand.
 
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Xception

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Sankey probably traded UNC for future considerations when one of the cheating sec football teams get in trouble.
 

JPScott

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We are a 5 seed (which our record, quad 1 wins, etc point to a fair seed), and when you’re a 5 seed, they usually send you to a location where you don’t have a a home court advantage over the 4 seed. Here is where the other 5 seeds play:

Ohio State - Boise
West Virginia - San Diego
Clemson - San Diego

Our location fits in exactly with where a 5 seed should be located. The fact they put us in the Atlanta region is shocking to me. That is the one regional site that gives us a home court advantage over any team in the tournament and they put us there.

Agree. A 5-seed doesn’t usually command their pick in terms of location. And while they’re not expected to get that far (based on seeding), if they can get to Atlanta that will be to Kentucky’s benefit.

The one thing people seem to not appreciate when it comes to location is that it’s not usually possible to accommodate teams for location in BOTH the 1st & 2nd round games AND the regionals as well.

Especially now where the early sites aren’t specifically tied to a particular regional location, it’s often the case that a team might need to sacrifice going out of the way for the early round games in order to benefit from a preferred regional site.

From that standpoint I can’t complain about UK’s placement in terms of location. My main concerns with the committee is in their ability to create balanced brackets & when they make their decisions without taking all the games played into account.
 
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JPScott

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Abolish the selection committee and I promise you that everyone who demanded it will HATE and scream conspiracy at whatever new system they use the very first time the seedings don't go their way.

Some people will complain no matter what. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are serious structural flaws in having human committees, and that’s even before you add in politics and biases.

I firmly believe if a well constructed computer model was used, it would address many of the current issues while allowing for improvements not possible under the current system.
 

Catfan in Tn.

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Don’t remember specifically who said it, but if you listen to some of the audio interviews that Oscar Combs has been doing, people who would know have confirmed that UK was approached about joining the ACC.

I don’t know if it was ever officially confirmed at the time but it certainly was a rumor around the time the ACC was looking to expand.
I trust you but that’s news to me. The article I read made no mention of Kentucky anywhere.
 

JPScott

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It’s almost as if they seed us with teams so that they hit the lottery early with viewership. The longer the tournament plays out, the less likely these big games happen. It’s all about the money.

If so I think the committee is overthinking it. I think that no matter what the draw is, the TV networks can find compelling matchups. There’s a reason why the game times aren’t released until after the brackets are announced. (And that’s to allow the TV networks to set up a desired TV schedule.)

And the matchups become more compelling with each round as the better teams start to face each other.

In UK’s case, a TV executive is going to find a Kentucky game compelling (I.e. in terms of ratings) no matter the opponent.
 
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Catfan in Tn.

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Some people will complain no matter what. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are serious structural flaws in having human committees, and that’s even before you add in politics and biases.

I firmly believe if a well constructed computer model was used, it would address many of the current issues while allowing for improvements not possible under the current system.
Technology has already given us Tractor Trailers that can drive across the US using computers. Shouldn’t be too hard to do a program for the NCAA.
 

uk78_rivals88018

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I kind of like the SEC tournament being played when it is happening. The championship game is the entire feature on Sunday and kind of the icing on the cake of all the different tournaments. I think we are going to see a commitment tonight and I don't believe the timing is by accident. That recruit saw what Cal accomplished with his current players, and although already leaning toward Kentucky, sealed the deal. So, television focus, attention nationally, and afterall we have done relatively well each year in the tournament, not sure I want to see something different.
I don't like that we are in Boise but everyone would have more of an argument if we hadn't had so many losses including an end of the regular season blow-out at Florida.
 

mjj_2K

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Abolish the selection committee and I promise you that everyone who demanded it will HATE and scream conspiracy at whatever new system they use the very first time the seedings don't go their way.
Wrong. Not if they make the seedings public, starting in February. People might disagree about whatever system they choose, but as long as they are mathematical models, not a set of highly subjective moving targets, no one will be able to claim any kind of conspiracy.

Oh, and count every game.

The selection committee is a useless dinosaur that only does more to make people question the already highly questionable integrity of NCAA sports.